C.D. message and influence...

[Saul]

I think it's obvious the album will end world hunger and cure many life threatening diseases.

[ppbebe]

I think it's obvious the album will end world hunger and cure many life threatening diseases.

Objection! I'm afraid it's obvious the album will threaten us with disasters and end the world.

Wasn't it supposed to shatter the earth?

[Carlos_f_Rose]

Wow I didnt really know how deep were Axl's thoughts... Thanks for the info. 

By the way.. Izzy Stradlin rocks!

[gnrfan1797]

wow some of you people are weird. Basically axl writes for his being only we as fan's just have the benefit of listening to what he does. how can we bitch on what he writes about? I don't think to complain about anything. Remember the album doesn't have to come out. He dosen't technically owe anyone but himself the satisfaction of putting it out.

[Carlos_f_Rose]

You know guys, I think Axl is selfish, that is right, but in any moment I complaint about his lyrics, I only said I hope they have a message....

[jmapelian]

from what I've heard of the downloads off the net from the 2002, I couldn't really make out any meaning in the songs, granted I've only heard them about 3 times (madagascar, The Blues, and CD) Riyad and Silkworms are really unlistenable to IMO.  I hope it's true and those songs aren't under serious consideration for the album or I may be very dissappointed

[justynius]

from what I've heard of the downloads off the net from the 2002, I couldn't really make out any meaning in the songs

Well, if you can't make out any meaning to the songs, that obviously proves no meaning exists in them at all, right?

Here's some ideas to think about that might put you on track......

-Why choose the title "Chinese Democracy?" Why specifically China? How is democracy relevant to China? How might that political situation be a relevant comparison/metaphor for things relating closer to our world?

-On a figurative level, who is the speaker talking to in "The Blues?" Who cannot be saved by all the love and innocence in the world, and tricks people by confusing lies with truth?

-What about the island of Madagascar relates to the situation of the song? What mental/spiritual state is described by trying to find your way back to shore? Why are the ways that the speaker used to be lured in said to be 'mired' in denial and fear? How might denial and fear be a symbolic chain?

The new songs are some of the most lyrically meaningful pieces GN'R has released.

[Carlos_f_Rose]

-Why choose the title "Chinese Democracy?" Why specifically China? How is democracy relevant to China? How might that political situation be a relevant comparison/metaphor for things relating closer to our world?

Man he might have been inspired by this book Andrew J. Nathan's Chinese Democy, or maybe just like He said in an interview from 2000, He likes those words.

-On a figurative level, who is the speaker talking to in "The Blues?" Who cannot be saved by all the love and innocence in the world, and tricks people by confusing lies with truth?

Is there a big difference between who is talking to in this song (The Blues) or who He is talking to in "Back off bitch". I wonder what is the mistery behind being DOWN IN THE GUTTER DYIN' IN THE DITCH, and saying a bitch to back off...

The new songs are some of the most lyrically meaningful pieces GN'R has released.

Man, that is up to you... For me the best lyrics GNR wrote, are in the released albums, some are just to party, like Back off bitch, You could be mine and others, some are funny like You aint the first, some are deep like NR,  Locomotive and some others, I think everybody has their opinion about this.

[Bad_Apple]

You know guys, I think Axl is selfish, that is right, but in any moment I complaint about his lyrics, I only said I hope they have a message....

why is he selfish?  bc he doesn't SHARE his current work?!  give me a break...
We are so lucky that we had a glimpse into his mind/thoughts from previous albums.  He doesn't owe us anything...we don't OWN him!  He is not our property!  It makes me wonder if you ppl even understand the word selfish...
Live and Let live....

[Carlos_f_Rose]

why is he selfish?? bc he doesn't SHARE his current work?!? give me a break...

Nop, its about something else, read the main topic please...?

We are so lucky that we had a glimpse into his mind/thoughts from previous albums.? He doesn't owe us anything...we don't OWN him!?

Yep, I guess We were lucky? , but I also think he does owe us, because He promised the Album, I wouldnt even be here if He hadnt promised Chinese Democracy some years ago...

He is not our property!? It makes me wonder if you ppl even understand the word selfish...

Well you know it's kinda hard but I'm trying?

Live and Let live....

I liked that?

Ps: Today is a special day... November 7th,  Izzy Stradlin left the Band 14 years ago....  Its been 14 years of pain...   I guess... Its a snafu..... take care dudes..

[ppbebe]

Nop, its about something else, read the main topic please... 

And I've answerd that.  read my reply please.
 

but I also think he does owe us, because He promised the Album, I wouldnt even be here if He hadnt promised Chinese Democracy some years ago...

That doesn't mean he owes you. No one asks you to wait. You come here for pleasure.

[Carlos_f_Rose]

Ppebe, how are you doing?

 There is something I dont understand.. Bad apple and you, are the same person?

[ppbebe]

Ppebe, how are you doing?

 There is something I dont understand.. Bad apple and you, are the same person?

  That's not all. Oyez! Everyone in this board is the selfsame person except ya!

But it's nothing to do with the thread.

[DeN]

specifically China because it's a HUGE marketplace.   

http://www.gluckman.com/Americanization.html

[Carlos_f_Rose]

Ppebe, how are you doing?

 There is something I dont understand.. Bad apple and you, are the same person?

  That's not all. Oyez! Everyone in this board is the selfsame person except ya!

But it's nothing to do with the thread.

Sorry Ppebbe,  I got confused  . On the other hand I read what you wrote about Axl and his help to kids in Halloween, and yes the man is a mistery, who knows what he has done, maybe he has helped a lot or just nothing. By the way... he owes me the album  ...  (just kidding) 

[jmapelian]

from what I've heard of the downloads off the net from the 2002, I couldn't really make out any meaning in the songs

Well, if you can't make out any meaning to the songs, that obviously proves no meaning exists in them at all, right?

Here's some ideas to think about that might put you on track......

-Why choose the title "Chinese Democracy?" Why specifically China? How is democracy relevant to China? How might that political situation be a relevant comparison/metaphor for things relating closer to our world?

-On a figurative level, who is the speaker talking to in "The Blues?" Who cannot be saved by all the love and innocence in the world, and tricks people by confusing lies with truth?

-What about the island of Madagascar relates to the situation of the song? What mental/spiritual state is described by trying to find your way back to shore? Why are the ways that the speaker used to be lured in said to be 'mired' in denial and fear? How might denial and fear be a symbolic chain?

The new songs are some of the most lyrically meaningful pieces GN'R has released.

Well, obviously you've put a hell of a lot more thought into than I have.  Of course, since I have semi-decent quality downloads off the net w/out the accompanying lyrics, it's difficult to really analyze what the fuck he's talking about.  The GnR I remember use to write about incidents about their lives, and were very personal.  Personally, the Island of Madagascar or the situation in China doesn't do it for me.  If you want hear meaningful lyrics, listen to about the last 2 1/2 minutes of Coma.  Meaningfrul, straightforward, emotional,and you don't need a advanced degree in world history or philospgy to get the gist.

[Mr. Dick Purple]

I think CD will have some Innuendo and some Made in heaven influence, albums by Queen, i think Axl in all these years has to be thinking more about himself, his inner side, if he is selfish at the end who cares?, cause eveyone is at certain point of view.
So if anyone with so much to bring, in this case the new album, have planed for a long time in doing something eveyrone expect I think he wants to bring the best.
I think Axl wants to give us the best music he can offer us.
 

[gilld1]

As fans we may take the words of a song a certain way but that doesn't mean that it was the intended message.  Especially so in this case, how can sane people decipher some message from a nutball like Asshole Rose?  The album should be entitled "Music for the Paranoid Delusional Schizos."

[Carlos_f_Rose]

honestly man that was funny, are you steven adler ? 

[jmapelian]

I would trade the message and influence for a real kick ass rock album

I dont think thats gonna happen though w/ CD