Is there a possibility of Burnout on CD material for next tour?

[jimmythegent]

We all know that GNR and specifically Axl, has spent a hell of a long time recording, tweaking, perfecting, scrapping, mixing etc.. etc.. songs on CD..

My question is, when the time comes to play CD songs in a live environment, arent they all (and especially Axl) going to be sick of hearing them/playing them? This can happen and have a deadening effect on the music.

The best live performances are when the songs are fresh and raw. When bands spend a long time on the road, they can get sick of playing the same material over and over.

I believe this happened on the UYI tour hence why on the Skin and Bones leg they played more obscure songs to counter this.

I also realise they havent played most of the new songs in a live capacity, but Axl especially, must have heard these songs in varying states of completion 1000's of times.

I also realise there could be about 70 new songs theyve worked on. Im more concerned with the reported 20 "A-list" songs.

Surely Axl is approaching burnout stage on these songs. Will he be able to do them justice live?

What do people think?

[ClintroN]

i reckon Axl cant wait to get these songs on the road  to us: ok:

Do you think Axl has ever been sick of Its So Easy??

dont worry dude, i think it'll be cool!!

[ppbebe]

Well put Clintron.

I was about to say "well yea maybe. Axl alone will possibly be in such a state" but damn.  You're right.

  @ Its So Easy

[jimmythegent]

  @ Its So Easy

this was a joke? 

Yeah, the Appetite stuff on that 2002 tour must have been fresh for Axl to play with a new band, offering new interpretations etc.. And lets not forget he hadnt played those songs in a long time (even tho' some may believe he rerecorded vocals, although I reckon the 'band' re-recorded Appetite as an exercise in getting them up to speed to play them live)

I personally view this as a studio project, so my expectation in terms of live performance arent that high anyway. Unless Axl starts taking live performances a bit more seriously, I think Guns and specifically CD is a studio deal if and when they re-emerge.

Could be wrong tho'...

[misterbrownstone]

if they get sick of it, they could play stuff from the illusions, more of lies and TSI?

peace

[misterID]

He seemed like he was bored thru the whole 2002 tour, IMO

I just want to say: Axl is the Donald Rumsfeld of GNR... Yeah I said it.

[alexh0618]

I just want to say: Axl is the Donald Rumsfeld of GNR... Yeah I said it.

can't say I like Donald Rumsfeld but at least he gives updates on stuff that is going on unlike Mr A.

[jameslofton29]

  @ Its So Easy

this was a joke??

Yeah, the Appetite stuff on that 2002 tour must have been fresh for Axl to play with a new band, offering new interpretations etc.. And lets not forget he hadnt played those songs in a long time (even tho' some may believe he rerecorded vocals, although I reckon the 'band' re-recorded Appetite as an exercise in getting them up to speed to play them live)

I personally view this as a studio project, so my expectation in terms of live performance arent that high anyway. Unless Axl starts taking live performances a bit more seriously, I think Guns and specifically CD is a studio deal if and when they re-emerge.

Could be wrong tho'...

? ? ? Jimmy, I agree 100%. I also think this version of GNR will basically be a studio band. We might get ocassional performances on SNL, Tonight Show, Conan, VMA's,etc., but a world tour is highly unlikely. You made a great point about Axl getting burnt out on the material. I'm sure he has since he has spent so much time on it. But having the public give him a great response to the material will fuse new life into the album for him. So I dont think we have to worry too much about Axl burnout.

[Evolution]

Maybe the fact so many version of the songs have been created, rehearsals are taking forever to iron out the creases?

[Krispy Kreme]

He seemed like he was bored thru the whole 2002 tour, IMO

I just want to say: Axl is the Donald Rumsfeld of GNR... Yeah I said it.

What exactly do you mean?

[Ax]

There's no chance that the other band members will be tired of the songs when they tour because from what people say most of them finished recording their parts years ago.

As for Axl, who knows what it will be like for him. I'm sure it will be a real rush at the start to see how people react to the songs he has been working on for so long. After the first bit of the tour though, I'm sure if he gets sick of playing the songs he can put some old gnr songs on the set list or put some of the songs that didn't make it on Chinese Democracy on the set list. I'm sure there are a ton of B-side type songs recroded that they can play live for a change of pace.

This is all assuming that Chinese Democracy is ever released and that they tour of course.

[ppbebe]

  @ Its So Easy

this was a joke? 

If he said 'Welcome to the jungle' or 'Rocket Queen', then he wouldn't be funny.

[Saul]

seeing as how the band never heard songs with finished vocals for years (maybe even to this day) I couldnt see how they would be bored/burned out by the material.

[jimmythegent]

seeing as how the band never heard songs with finished vocals for years (maybe even to this day) I couldnt see how they would be bored/burned out by the material.

yeah the thread was more about Axl than the band

[ppbebe]

saul meant the band inclusive of  Axl.

[jimmythegent]

saul meant the band inclusive of? Axl.

err...

"seeing as how the band never heard songs with finished vocals for years "

that would seem to imply the contrary woundnt it?

[jmapelian]

First of all, the band members probably forget how to play the new material since it's been soo long since they have

Second, a next tour is a big assumption because after the 2002 debacle, what company is gonna promote it

I would think the record company is just praying and keeping it's fingers crossed it gets an album of Axl

[mikegiuliana]

You might think axl is sick of chinese d or at least hearing about it.. This is one of the most involved album I have ever heard of from money to producers to band members.. makes you wonder if the band even remembers how to play the material..

I don[t think a big tour will happen anyways.. As mentioned do to the 2002 NA tour and the fact axl is never in the public eye also who wants to have the chance of riots on their hands

[nevermiss24]

that could happen but i think Axl has worked too hard to let that happen

[RichardNixon]

I think once/if "Chinese Democracy" is released, the band will be so psyched, they'll get a second wind.