For the people burned out on partisan politics

[SLCPUNK]

Here....is this less offensive to you?

You missed my point bud.  The personal attacks are not needed.

We just had a big deal about why this board is out of control.  We don't need to rely on personal attacks when talking about politics.  Attack somebody's point of view, not them.  This board would be much wiser that way.

His posts are hardly serious, and he is a troll. Filled with references only to inflame others usually based around "white is right" underlying messages, often including links to white supremacy sites.

A dumb question, usually gets a dumb answer..........

and in this case a dumb post.......

[Axl_owns_dexter]

My question is still there.  Why can't you attack his ideas and not him?  Is it that hard?

[SLCPUNK]

My question is still there.  Why can't you attack his ideas and not him?  Is it that hard?

Because he does not have a point. Those "ideas" are only meant to inflame. There is no true opinion to attack, that's the point.

You should know darn well by now, that I will take other people's "ideas" on as I see fit. There is nothing new here with him however. Just an automated troll machine spewing out racist crap. Clearly, nothing to "attack".

If you go to the link he provided, it is nothing more then racist bullshit. The forums are loaded down with simple minded "thinkers" finding a way to practice bigotry.

[Izzy]

Bush isn't quite conservative enough for my taste.

Better?

[Where is Hassan Nasrallah ?]

My question is still there.  Why can't you attack his ideas and not him?  Is it that hard?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll

[Walk]

How is national socialism conservative? Right-wing does not equal conservative, you know. It values collectivism and totalitarianism over individual responsibility and libertarianism. It's a bureaucratic nightmare. The only thing worse than it is communism.

The point is, moderatism is a scam. Most moderates take this position because they aren't informed enough to be conservative or uninformed enough to be liberal. That, or they're liberals. It's very telling that liberals are often afraid to admit what they are, while we conservatives are more open.

What does race have to do with any of this?

[Guns N RockMusic]

What does race have to do with any of this?

Haven't you realized it yet Walk?? The only time race is ever brought up on this board is when a leftist member envokes the emotional response linked to "racism" in an attempt to attack the person they happen to disagree with.? However, that being said, while you have never personally made a racist remark, the sites and even music you have brought to this site are.? Therefore there is some basis for guilt by association, but 9x out of 10, some moron just screams racism when they can't find their bookmark in liberal replies to intelligent topics.  Point and case Izzy's little gallery of pics.  Personally I'm disgusted as to how the left continually numbs people to the extremism of Nazism by trying to label anything that doesn't agree with their twisted logic as fascism or similar to Hitler.  For once I'd like to have a discussion on this board without someone screaming racist or posting some inane picture because they don't have the ability to write out their copied thought.

[Axl_owns_dexter]

left continually numbs people to the extremism of Nazism by trying to label anything that doesn't agree with their twisted logic as fascism or similar to Hitler.

Its the new McCarthyism.  Just label your opponent a Nazi.  Why even bother to argue facts.   

[SLCPUNK]

Haven't you realized it yet Walk?  The only time race is ever brought up on this board is when a leftist member envokes the emotional response linked to "racism" in an attempt to attack the person they happen to disagree with. 

Or when the poster puts links up to sites that have racist material. Ya know...stuff like that.

Its the new McCarthyism. Just label your opponent a Nazi. Why even bother to argue facts.

You guys wish it to be true, imagine it so and enjoy your lives. But if you follow many of his links they are often to white is right bullshit sites. The forum on that site is nothing but jackass racists who consider themselves deep thinkers. Give me a break.

You guys want to defend that, be my guest, but it only shows what kind of people you are.

Birds of a feather and all that..........

[Axl_owns_dexter]

I am not defending that website.

I am calling you out for being a neo-McCarthyite.   

[SLCPUNK]

I am calling you out for being a neo-McCarthyite.   

OK, whatever makes you feel better for defending a bigot.

Good night.

[Axl_owns_dexter]

OK, whatever makes you feel better for defending a bigot.

Ok, keep avoiding the issue.

[D]

I think one of the biggest things wrong with the US is an almost cult like political system.

I think they should do away with the whole conservative,liberal,middle crap.

its like a cult almost.

If someone is a liberal they are automatically against all conservatives, if u are a conservative u are automatically against liberals.

I mean most wont even listen to someone speak if they are a member of the other party.

I am about ideas.

i dont care about party affiliations or what have u.

I listen to the ideas and I choose who I think is best.

I am a democrat, but I dont always vote for democrats just because.

I can entertain republicans ideas, sometimes I agree, sometimes I dont, but I never dismiss someone just because of their political affiliation.

[Guns N RockMusic]

Haven't you realized it yet Walk?? The only time race is ever brought up on this board is when a leftist member envokes the emotional response linked to "racism" in an attempt to attack the person they happen to disagree with.?

Or when the poster puts links up to sites that have racist material. Ya know...stuff like that.

You guys want to defend that, be my guest, but it only shows what kind of people you are.

Birds of a feather and all that..........

Again SLC, I said that Walk is guilty by association because many of his website are racist.  I would appreciate it if you would distinguish between  the posters (if any) that defend racism and ones like myself who continually strike it down.  Just because I have conservative economic beliefs doesn't make me a bigot.  My complaint is that it is all too common for a member to throw out the term bigot or racist when it is not warranted; like when Kurrupt Girl tried to claim half the board called me a racist when in fact she is the only member to ever directly call me one.

[SLCPUNK]

OK, whatever makes you feel better for defending a bigot.

Ok, keep avoiding the issue.

 
I've addressed it: there is no issue.

How come everybody seems to understand that except you guys who defend the troll?

[SLCPUNK]

Again SLC, I said that Walk is guilty by association because many of his website are racist.  I would appreciate it if you would distinguish between  the posters (if any) that defend racism and ones like myself who continually strike it down.

If Walk is guilty by association, then you two defending Walk is what?

Or being in Walk's corner is what?

Wonder why people end up calling you a racist? Are you really shocked?

Look around at the company you keep on the board.

[Izzy]

you have never personally made a racist remark,

Afraid he has. SLC was kind enough to compile a list of the most notable examples, if u wish to read them maybe SLC remembers the thread they were compiled in, or maybe i'll go and have a look

[gilld1]

New McCarthyism?  How about labeling any dissenting opinions on current events as unpatriotic?  The Right has the corner on this market!

[Guns N RockMusic]

Again SLC, I said that Walk is guilty by association because many of his website are racist.? I would appreciate it if you would distinguish between? the posters (if any) that defend racism and ones like myself who continually strike it down.

If Walk is guilty by association, then you two defending Walk is what?

Or being in Walk's corner is what?

Wonder why people end up calling you a racist? Are you really shocked?

Look around at the company you keep on the board.

So what you're saying is that anyone in "Walk's corner"which I assume means conservative is a racist.  By that twisted logic you're in favor of murder and genocide since Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot were all communist which happens to be in the leftist corner.  That example too extreme? How about the fact that Senator Robert Byrd was a leader in the Ku Klux Klan (yes he's a Democrat) or that Strom Thurmond ran as a segregationist Dixicrat when he was a --- you guessed it, Democrat. 

You and others continually hold this collectivist mentality and lump people into groups.  I on the other hand am an individualists.  I know that you are not a racist even though people in your political spectrum are.  Just because some of Walk's post contain some racist ties doesn't mean that every idea to come out of his mouth or anything he supports is racist.  I'm not saying Walk is a racist, but he certainly deserves the heat after repestedly linking websites to the white power movement.  Again, I don't keep any company on this board.  I don't PM people or make new internet friends.  Someone posts a concept or statement I like or dislike, I'll probably comment.  Hopefully you can at least respect the logic in my reply if nothing else.

[Walk]

The whole point of this is to break down partisan barriers. If Bush was truly 100% against terrorism, he would close the border (which would protect our jobs too). He won't. Something isn't right here. 

How about pointing out some liberal problems from your side of the pond, SLC? Might make you feel better. It's acceptable to like some ideas from someone, even if he has some extreme ideas you disagree with. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.