Axl throwing tantrums with Tracii Guns

[-Jack-]

Axl was once a great rock star. Keyword: was. Fame and money took its toll and he went the opposite of the Cobain route. 2 rock stars, 2 different reactions.

But ONE HUGE (!!) difference!    Axl never had Courtney to hire someone to shoot him,  so that she could inherit all his money in case he decides to divorce her,  which he did.

*Police megaphone voice* Sir put down the crazy pills and slowly back away from the vehicle.

[RichardNixon]

Axl was once a great rock star. Keyword: was. Fame and money took its toll and he went the opposite of the Cobain route. 2 rock stars, 2 different reactions.

And if Axl had died in '92, he'd have the same status as Cobain has now. If Cobain hadn't died in '94, who knows? Maybe he'd be selling 300,000 in 2005 albums like Pearl Jam.

[W 23 AXL II]

its pretty incredible.....a pre-teen Axl getting pissed over things....just proves again how "real" this celebrity/star/rock icon really is. he's really the last true real rock star.


anyone know anything about the felt forum show in 88, in nyc?

[jazjme]

I was at that show, fuckin great!

[mikegiuliana]

Axl was once a great rock star. Keyword: was. Fame and money took its toll and he went the opposite of the Cobain route. 2 rock stars, 2 different reactions.

And if Axl had died in '92, he'd have the same status as Cobain has now. If Cobain hadn't died in '94, who knows? Maybe he'd be selling 300,000 in 2005 albums like Pearl Jam.

if axl had died shortly after the illusions came out he would have been known as a legend like joplin or hendrix..  Everyone would sit aroiund saying how gnr would have been the biggest rock band ever and so on.. Who would have thought 14 years later there would still be nothing but some rumors and some new group

[W 23 AXL II]

its not only a shame, but quit disgusting, what has happened to the gnr name.

if axl doesn't want to do this anymore, thats cool,its his life obviously.....but he's kinda dragged this thing out, and in doing so, is hurting the legitimacy of the GnR brand. its become a joke to most people, except us.

on a side note, i dont really like Robin's intro to Paradise City. i do, however, really enjoy listening to, and playing, his intro from sweet child. but what was he thinking for the intro to PC???

[jmapelian]

Axl was once a great rock star. Keyword: was. Fame and money took its toll and he went the opposite of the Cobain route. 2 rock stars, 2 different reactions.

And if Axl had died in '92, he'd have the same status as Cobain has now. If Cobain hadn't died in '94, who knows? Maybe he'd be selling 300,000 in 2005 albums like Pearl Jam.

if axl had died shortly after the illusions came out he would have been known as a legend like joplin or hendrix..? Everyone would sit aroiund saying how gnr would have been the biggest rock band ever and so on.. Who would have thought 14 years later there would still be nothing but some rumors and some new group

I agree, he should shot himself in the head back in the early 90's, at least people would still have a positive impression of him and GnR instead of the laughingstock he's turned the name into

[michaelvincent]

He hasn't really turned it into a laughingstock....he just hasn't turned it into anything. Which is sad.

Maybe one day we'll hear the album and we'll see what's what.

[younggunner]

Everyone would sit aroiund saying how gnr would have been the biggest rock band ever and so on.. Who would have thought 14 years later there would still be nothing but some rumors and some new group

people still say that...and better yet, they all have their heads on them

[Falcon]

I don't think Axl was ever destined to be the "voice of a generation" by any means, dead or alive.

Wrong place, wrong time...

[younggunner]

Voice of a Generation or not...Axl has made an impact on millions of people, and generations

[the dirt]

I don't think Axl was ever destined to be the "voice of a generation" by any means, dead or alive.

Wrong place, wrong time...

What, if any, would have been the right place and time?

[Mr. Dick Purple]

I think if AXL would've died a few years ago he would be so overrated and I prefer him alive right now than dead living in dreams. 
I think that Axl is alive for the best for everyone of us even if his music doesn't trascend to the new generation I know it will be a great part of my life and music history.

[younggunner]

I think that Axl is alive for the best for everyone of us even if his music doesn't trascend to the new generation I know it will be a great part of my life and music history.

dont let the whole nirvana/grunge thing fool you...just look at the GH sales and even the old album sales and that will tell you all you need to know about GNR/Axl transcending and impacting newer generations

[Falcon]

What, if any, would have been the right place and time?

Great question.

I'm not sure if there was a time when Axl/GNR could have forged that legacy considering the scene he/GNR emerged from and how the wild success manifested itself into overblown excess. 
When things become so big as they did with GNR, it gets hard to comprehend.  Things became larger than life and kids looked for something else they could grab a hold of, something more relateable to their everyday lives.

[RichardNixon]

What, if any, would have been the right place and time?

Great question.

I'm not sure if there was a time when Axl/GNR could have forged that legacy considering the scene he/GNR emerged from and how the wild success manifested itself into overblown excess.?
When things become so big as they did with GNR, it gets hard to comprehend.? Things became larger than life and kids looked for something else they could grab a hold of, something more relateable to their everyday lives.

I agree. But at the same time people miss overblown pomp and rock stat excess. Besides Manson, there really hasn't been a great "rock star" (not anti-rock star) since Manson, and as much as I like him, he's no Axl.

[mikegiuliana]

to bad the last though will be of axl getting  a whole new band and tanking at the vmas... The best memory would have been if sftd was the last song under the gnr name.. They would have been from 1985 to say 1994 and it would had been some positive memories.. great bands break up and their music lasts.. No one expected gnr to last forever, sometimes I am amazed they got passed a few years.

It would be  a shame if you have a newer gnr with members that have been there since the late 90's to never have really done anything with the band... Sure there has been lots of things done behind the scenes but who will ever remember them except the die hards who checked sites or interviewed new members at their seperate gigs...

[RichardNixon]

to bad the last though will be of axl getting? a whole new band and tanking at the vmas... The best memory would have been if sftd was the last song under the gnr name.. They would have been from 1985 to say 1994 and it would had been some positive memories.. great bands break up and their music lasts.. No one expected gnr to last forever, sometimes I am amazed they got passed a few years.

It would be? a shame if you have a newer gnr with members that have been there since the late 90's to never have really done anything with the band... Sure there has been lots of things done behind the scenes but who will ever remember them except the die hards who checked sites or interviewed new members at their seperate gigs...

They hardly "tanked" at the VMAs. Tanking would be getting booed off the stage.

[younggunner]

I'm not sure if there was a time when Axl/GNR could have forged that legacy considering the scene he/GNR emerged from and how the wild success manifested itself into overblown excess.?
When things become so big as they did with GNR, it gets hard to comprehend.? Things became larger than life and kids looked for something else they could grab a hold of, something more relateable to their everyday lives.

your talking as if GNr dont have some kind of legacy or didnt stamp themselves into rnr history. Watch that VH1 show "when metal ruled the world". They talk about the 80s hair metal scene and how overblown it got and then "out of nowhere comes this little band, guns n roses, and all bets are off". Gnr were different. They started a new trend a new look a new image. It last them until 92. In that time they sold millions and millions of albums. Released a double album. Set records. And in that short period of time they carved themselves out to be one of the GREATEST rnr bands that we will ever see. Did it get overblown at the end. Of course. But the band was young. They didnt get any chances to redeem themselves like many bands do. Instead of blowing their heads off they burnt out. And honestly there is a bigger mystique about Axl and what hes doing than WHat would Cobain be doing right now.

to bad the last though will be of axl getting? a whole new band and tanking at the vmas

How did it bomb? You might not have liked how they performed and some people might not have liked how Axl looked but that doesnt mean they tanked. Listen to the crowd after the performance. They werent silent or booing. They were cheering.

They would have been from 1985 to say 1994 and it would had been some positive memories.. great bands break up and their music lasts.. No one expected gnr to last forever, sometimes I am amazed they got passed a few years.

I honestly love when I read this. If the GNr name is tarnished and no1 has positive memories of old gnr, how come the gh and old albums are still selling by the truckload? I know, I know, all the hs kids want the album to match the trendy shirts. If the name is tarnished why would promoters throw unimaginable amounts of monet for the old band to return? Why would promotors wanna book GNr to RIR every time?

Maybe in America GNR arent as appreciated as you would like but around the world, gnr are still top noth. Here we have bootleg djs trying to be funny. Axl is an easy target. But you know what...

He might have went to far in the 90;s with the shoes,tours,fur coats and all that....but where is the rockstar today? Where has he been since he left? Thats what RNR is all about. Being crazy, extreme doing WHATEVER THE FUCK YOU WANT....WHETherR PEOPEL THINK ITS COOL OR NOT, WHETHER KIDS THINK ITS COOL OR NOT. O yea and they had the music to back it up

[mikegiuliana]

to bad the last though will be of axl getting? a whole new band and tanking at the vmas... The best memory would have been if sftd was the last song under the gnr name.. They would have been from 1985 to say 1994 and it would had been some positive memories.. great bands break up and their music lasts.. No one expected gnr to last forever, sometimes I am amazed they got passed a few years.

It would be? a shame if you have a newer gnr with members that have been there since the late 90's to never have really done anything with the band... Sure there has been lots of things done behind the scenes but who will ever remember them except the die hards who checked sites or interviewed new members at their seperate gigs...

They hardly "tanked" at the VMAs. Tanking would be getting booed off the stage.

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I meant how axl sounded then how later on the talk of the vmas was more about axl's looks rather then about music...

I honestly love when I read this. If the GNr name is tarnished and no1 has positive memories of old gnr, how come the gh and old albums are still selling by the truckload?

whoever said the gnr name was tarnished, I said how the last memories of gnr at least for me is of the vmas. I should have said the more die hards..
Of course the gnr name isn't tarnished do to the new band, no one knows the new band.. They sell good because gnr are now rock icons, classic rock will always live on.. afd is one of the best rock albums ever..