A question for the 1987 fans

[ppbebe]

Elvis? I don't think so. That cover was prolly a joke. Didn't his parents only let him listen to like elvis and Jimmy swagart or something like that?

I wasn't there but I hear that little Axl would get a smack or two just for singing a elvis song.

[MeanBone]

this sure as hell makes us realize we have no possible way of knowing what's next. but if history is served we won't even be capable of imagine what it is it might happen with gn'r

[Buddha_Master]

"GN'R were never about hard rock"?

I think a more accurate sentence would be, "GN'R were never JUST about Hard Rock."

Listen, we all know Steven Adler like to suck dick for coke. But beyond that, he was a man on the inside and that has to be respected. Steven Adler said in the VH1 special, that they believed they were a gang, and wanted to kick everyones ass with their music.

On Appetite there are many layers that seprated them from the Hard Rock only genre. I never considered them to be one-dimensional, and Appetite is absolutely not one dimensional. But it was focussed. It has direction and it has purpose.

I agree with the dude above that recognized the problem when GN'R went from GN'R to individuals who needed their contributions isolated and identified seprately in writing credits. Maybe it was because some worked harder then others, who knows.

Regardless, this time (UYI's and tour) was painfull. Totally bittersweet. Some sweet moments of honest GNR goodness and moments of complete embarrassement.

Funny thing is, I was less embarrased for the GNR circa 2002, then I was of the Get in the ring GNR. The new guys seemed more bare boned, stripped down and real. Yea they are cooler now and there isn't even an album. Weird.

[snead hearn]

Not to sound like an old curmundgeon.....

Back in '87 we did not have a forum or the Internet en masse to discuss shit like this. Bands back then were something else, and certain things were still more "mysterious" (I wouldn't say "dangerous"). Rumors were so ramapant, they were legends, not just rumours. And when the band came to your town, you met up with other likeminded people and tore the place apart (see "Judas Priest Parking Lot" for a visual idea). Things were A LOT MORE culturally segregated amongst other social values. At the same, things and people were a lot more indignant and conservative. Thus, why GNR was such a breath of fresh air (until Nirvana came along and the whole shithole went up in flames). They were too real. How could a disaffected youth (railroaded by the Reagan regime) NOT like them.

Moreso: Metallica RULED back in 1987. Cliff was dead, Jason was filling in, and they were still on the Master or Puppets Tour. METAL UP YOUR ASS INDEED.

Another point: Tommy was headlong on the Please To Meet Me Tour with the Mats. SLAGGING on Axl and GNR.

What happened in 1991 with Illusions? Same thing that happened to The Clash and Sandanista! C'mon did you really think Axl, Slash, Duff would still be around churning out stuff right now? Great bands aren't meant to last long. Get used to it.

And now-with the neverending tease of "WILL HE OR WON"T HE???": Name another band of Guns' magnitude where the main character has done something like Axl.

IT"S TOO EXCITING TO GIVE UP NOW!! 18 YEARS. AND COUNTING.

(I'm kinda rambling, but hopefully you get my point)

[Buddha_Master]

Fuck, I totally do dude. And you're fucking right.

I really don't know if the world understands that mass celebrations that will be going down if this album does get released. I know I will be a crazed fucked up motherfucker if this drops. It jsut might be 1987 all over again. Just much, much more.

[Neemo]

Elvis? I don't think so. That cover was prolly a joke. Didn't his parents only let him listen to like elvis and Jimmy swagart or something like that?

I wasn't there but I hear that little Axl would get a smack or two just for singing a elvis song.

Nope that was Queen

The comment about Elvis is from the same Headbangers ball interview as the add for the lead guitarist.

He says all he was allowed to listen to was old elvis presley and Jimmy Swageart (sp?) religious tapes. I dunno about anyone else here, but i would be pretty resentful of that shit. If it wasn't a joke then how come it was never released officially It has a studio recording.

[grabaraxl]

I discovered gn'r in 1991 but i can answer to your questions:

1-"So, if someone told you back then that in 5 years time they'd have 12 band members on stage, with two keyboardists, horns and girls backup singing on Paradise City, what would you have said?"

Answer: why not? I love the use your illusion erea. I grew-up with it. especially Use 2.

i'm not trying to be "cool" or anything because it's basically an age issue, but if you were a fan back in 87/88, there was no way in hell you would predict what happened in 92 on gn'r live shows. if gn'r still have any cred is because of the AFD days. ok, the illusion era was great because our favorite band was the biggest band in the world, and was all over mtv, radios, mags, etc..
but 87/88/89 just had that aura! right band and the right time, and a really kick in the ass in whole rock'n'roll industry. and if there's a word that can describe my musical taste is diversity, but i've never felt anything for a band quite like those days of gn'r.
i wish i would've been in hollywood in 85/86 though!

[younggunner]

I really don't know if the world understands that mass celebrations that will be going down if this album does get released.

haha i agree. Ive been thinking about that a lot. I dont think even we understand what its gonna be like when have this dam album in our hands. I cant speak for everyone but for me the album and this whole thing has been a part of my life. The coming to the boards, the "defending", the anticipation, excitement, downfalss,yada ydad yada....basically day in and day out for the past 4 or 5 yrs for me.

Its hard to grasp the fatc that 1 of these decades we will have an album that contains completed  studio tracks with lyrics and vocals from Axl. FOr me thats hard to comprehend because I have never anticipated an album or wnated an album more than this. Plus I never go the chance to experience GNr first time aorund with the old material. Many of you people here already know what its liek to go to a CD store and buy a brand spanking new, anticpated gnr album. I dont...but i cant wait....

i think it woul dbe cool if we could have some sort of gnr fan convention.

[ppbebe]

Elvis? I don't think so. That cover was prolly a joke. Didn't his parents only let him listen to like elvis and Jimmy swagart or something like that?

I wasn't there but I hear that little Axl would get a smack or two just for singing a elvis song.

Nope that was Queen

The comment about Elvis is from the same Headbangers ball interview as the add for the lead guitarist.

He says all he was allowed to listen to was old elvis presley and Jimmy Swageart (sp?) religious tapes. I dunno about anyone else here, but i would be pretty resentful of that shit. If it wasn't a joke then how come it was never released officially It has a studio recording.

Ok, you're right about old Elvis Presley and Jimmy Swageart religious tapes as I saw the interview.
Yet, as to the Queen song being banned by his dad, I'm not convinced.

[AxlsMainMan]

I think it woul dbe cool if we could have some sort of gnr fan convention.

On the day the album is released, we should all go to Richard Branson's store dressed as vintage Axl

[Dr. Blutarsky]

A convention seems like a better option for a band that is done. Well....that may be the case with GNR, I really hope not.

It isnt Star Trek!

[Amanda]

I would never have imagined that they would have a piano on stage and female backup singers etc. That was totally different to the AFD days.

However I loved the UYI CD, even though at first I thought it wasnt as good as AFD and loved the evolution of the sound and the live vibe.

I still would be shocked to hear that Axl would see Slash and Duff as his enemies, and that the three would be slugging it out in court for years. I also would never have thought that Axl would just disappear the way he has..I still think that his disappearance is weird.