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I try to keep my topics......"good"
not sure if this qualifies, but here is what i think happened:
i think velvet revolver really affected axl. i think their success bothered him, and threw him off-track. if everything in the world was right, axl would have release this album already. but i really think VR threw a monkey wrench into Axl's thought process, so things were wrong and thats why the delays.
does VR still bother him? tough answer, but i totally believe VR put some speed bumps in Axl's road. we might never see this album, b/c quite frankly, axl is too self-conscious.
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I wonder how long it will take for this to turn into a GNR vs VR thread?
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Re: The Latest Theory 2000-2005
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It already is GNR-VR. Not a good "theory". You should change the title of the thread. When I saw it, I thought you would discuss the things that have happened since 2000. Instead, its a lame attempt at trying to start GNR vs VR shit.
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jameslofton....you're the only poster on here that is truly annoying....dont you have a life?
im not trying to start anything regarding gnr vs vr...its a theory about axl's reaction to VR. i could care less in comparing the two bands. you CANNOT really compare them.
this is about axl's reaction to vr.
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I think the only effect VR had on GN'R was that some members sued Axl....
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Quote from: W 23 AXL II on October 20, 2005, 03:00:31 PM
I try to keep my topics......"good"
not sure if this qualifies, but here is what i think happened:
i think velvet revolver really affected axl. i think their success bothered him, and threw him off-track. if everything in the world was right, axl would have release this album already. but i really think VR threw a monkey wrench into Axl's thought process, so things were wrong and thats why the delays.
does VR still bother him? tough answer, but i totally believe VR put some speed bumps in Axl's road. we might never see this album, b/c quite frankly, axl is too self-conscious.
Why would VR bother Axl? I think slash and duff suing axl had a bigger effect than anything since I think slash said back in the day that axl always put all his efforts into the times he was sued.
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there is no doubt in my mind that VR effected GNR. after a million years of delays and everything, when you are finally ready to put an album out, you need the right time to do it. VR had a huge album, and competing against that would be tough. i believe that axl is waiting for the wave to settle down a little bit, then hit the public with his record.
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Quote from: jarmo on October 20, 2005, 04:09:39 PM
I think the only effect VR had on GN'R was that some members sued Axl....
/jarmo
Yep absolutely. Axl is in the fight of his creative life right now.
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Quote from: dave-gnfnr2k on October 20, 2005, 04:14:33 PM
Quote from: W 23 AXL II on October 20, 2005, 03:00:31 PM
I try to keep my topics......"good"
not sure if this qualifies, but here is what i think happened:
i think velvet revolver really affected axl. i think their success bothered him, and threw him off-track. if everything in the world was right, axl would have release this album already. but i really think VR threw a monkey wrench into Axl's thought process, so things were wrong and thats why the delays.
does VR still bother him? tough answer, but i totally believe VR put some speed bumps in Axl's road. we might never see this album, b/c quite frankly, axl is too self-conscious.
Why would VR bother Axl? I think slash and duff suing axl had a bigger effect than anything since I think slash said back in the day that axl always put all his efforts into the times he was sued.
This is a good point. ?If Axl is worried about losing control over his income and rights to the GN'R catalogue, he's not gonna be able to give CD the time and effort I think we expect - which would be 100%. ?This court case is going to have to be finalized before any announcement for Cd will be made IMO. ?I just hope Slash and Duff drop the frivolous lawsuit attacking Axl for stealing their royalties.
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Why would Axl be concerned with a shitty half-assed album?
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Quote from: coondogg on October 20, 2005, 03:30:34 PM
I wonder how long it will take for this to turn into a GNR vs VR thread??
Quote from: gilld1 on October 20, 2005, 04:34:46 PM
Why would Axl be concerned with a shitty half-assed album?
About 7 post coondog.
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Quote from: coondogg on October 20, 2005, 03:30:34 PM
I wonder how long it will take for this to turn into a GNR vs VR thread??
hehe, You re right man
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VR has nothing to do with Axl not releasing an album. That all rests on Axl's shoulders. If these new rumours that speculate a Spring release are true, VR's new album's target release is also in the Spring. So if VR was the hold up on Axl's new album he would not target it for the Spring. He isnt stupid and i guarentee he checks up on to what those guys are doing so i am sure he is aware that the new VR album is due in the Spring. I actually think it will totally rock if they are released close to each other. It would be great to watch VR and GnR compete (hopefully) at the top of the charts like Guns and Leppard did back in 88-89.
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Quote from: deliverthecow on October 20, 2005, 07:53:19 PM
If these new rumours that speculate a Spring release are true, VR's new album's target release is also in the Spring. So if VR was the hold up on Axl's new album he would not target it for the Spring.
But you forgot about CD bieng delayed at around that point...
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Quote from: jarmo on October 20, 2005, 04:09:39 PM
I think the only effect VR had on GN'R was that some members sued Axl....
/jarmo
that I believe is the MAJOR development with an effect on Axl's life / career.
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While it is all speculation and we can?t know for sure, I wouldn?t at all be surprised if VR?s success had an impact on Axl. It would be like if your ex-girlfriend and some guy you sort of knew around school were voted prom queen and king.
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Quote from: FlashFlood on October 20, 2005, 04:15:50 PM
there is no doubt in my mind that VR effected GNR. after a million years of delays and everything, when you are finally ready to put an album out, you need the right time to do it. VR had a huge album, and competing against that would be tough. i believe that axl is waiting for the wave to settle down a little bit, then hit the public with his record.
Yeah right, so why doesn`t he release CD now? If this theory was true, now would be the perfect timing. So what is Axl waiting for - a second VR album maybe? In my opinion he doesn`t give a fuck about anyone. He will release CD when he feels like it, or if he feels like it.
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it is an interesting point. I think it certainly would have affected axl - lawsuits and all! whether he is content in the fact that when CD comes out it he feels there is no comparison between VR and GnR and the delay is a culmination of many factors - or perhaps it has affected him to see the guys out there and making a big splash musically again.
Maybe axl is happy they have done so well and is looking even more forward to showing them who the true boss is again tho!
If VR and GNR both release next year - it will be IMMENSE.
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I rather suppose it might scare the nightlight out of Axl if the three ex-guns together couldn't make any success at all.
Or maybe he wouldn't give a fart either way.
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I think Axl would like to release CD at the same time VR releases a new album. I sure as hell would be anything GnR before VR
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