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« Reply #20 on: October 20, 2005, 04:49:29 PM »

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/20/politics/politicsspecial1/20confirm.html?hp&ex=1129867200&en=b52188964d41adce&ei=5094&partner=homepage


Court Nominee Is Asked to Redo Reply to Questions

Senators Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania, the committee chairman, and Patrick J. Leahy of Vermont, the senior Democrat, sent Ms. Miers a letter faulting what they called incomplete responses about her legal career, her work in the White House, her potential conflicts on cases involving the administration and the suspension of her license by the District of Columbia Bar.

Their letter also asked her to provide detailed accounts of private reassurances about her views given by the White House or its allies to some conservative supporters who have been anxious about her positions on abortion and other social issues.

The letter asked Ms. Miers to respond within a week. Mr. Specter said he had scheduled hearings on her confirmation to begin Nov. 7, overruling Democratic objections that they did not have enough information to evaluate her because of her scant record on constitutional issues before joining the White House. Both Mr. Specter and Mr. Leahy said they would not set any deadline for the conclusion of the hearings.

"If the questions are not answered or their answer is incomplete, as they have been, then it's going to be a long hearing indeed," Mr. Leahy said.

Veteran senators and aides said they could not recall another occasion when the committee had sent back a nominee's answers to a questionnaire because they were incomplete. Former Senator Daniel R. Coats of Indiana, the administration's appointed guide for Ms. Miers on Capitol Hill, defended her answers in the Senate questionnaire as a work in progress.

"From the very first, Harriet Miers told Senator Specter that she had years of files to go through and that there would likely have to be a follow-up on some of the questions," Mr. Coats said. "She's more than willing to diligently provide the information as soon as possible. As you know, it's mountains of information."

Mr. Specter, however, has said that Ms. Miers told him last week that she would complete the questionnaire by last Friday.

The do-over of the questionnaire is the latest in a series of problems for Ms. Miers's nomination. Conservative intellectuals have said she is unqualified and have called for her withdrawal. Social conservatives have withheld their support because she lacks a clear record. And this week liberal groups set off alarms over her past opposition to abortion rights.

Ms. Miers sent the senators her own letter acknowledging a separate omission. She wrote that after submitting her answers on Tuesday, "I became aware that, as a result of administrative oversight, my Texas Bar license was suspended from Sept. 1 to Sept. 26, 1989, due to late payment of my bar dues."

Dana Perino, a spokeswoman for the White House, said the late payment was the result of an error by Ms. Miers's law firm, which paid its partners dues.

Some of the new questions may be politically challenging for Ms. Miers and the White House. One inquiry in the original questionnaire pointedly asked her about reports that in conference calls with conservative supporters the administration and its allies had offered private assurances about her views on abortion and other matters.

The first part of the question asked if she had made any statement to anyone about how she might rule from the bench, and a second part requested information about "all communications by the Bush administration or individuals acting on behalf of the administration to any individuals or interest groups with respect to how you would rule."

Ms. Miers's one-word answer to both was "No."

The senators repeated the inquiry in their new letter. "This would include any and all communications, including those about which there have been recent press reports, in which friends and supporters of yours, among others, were said to have been asked by the White House to assure certain individuals about your views," they wrote. "If you do not have firsthand knowledge of these communications, please endeavor to determine what sorts of communications, if any, took place."

In a news conference on Wednesday, Mr. Specter said, "It's been a chaotic process, very candidly, as to what has happened because of all of the conference calls and all of the discussions which are alleged in the back room."

Mr. Leahy vowed not to allow "quiet promises over conference calls" in the debate on her nomination.

In their letter, Senators Specter and Leahy asked for a more detailed explanation of the constitutional issues Ms. Miers handled as a senior aide or lawyer in the White House. Another question sought related documents that she had helped prepare there. If most of her experience with constitutional law "was gained during your years in the White House," the senators wrote, "it is important that we know more about the specifics of that experience."

The requests could step up a potential clash with the White House, which has sought to withhold such details to protect the confidentiality of its deliberations.

The letter also faulted Ms. Miers, who was President Bush's personal lawyer before entering the White House, for answering a question about potential conflicts of interest on the bench by merely citing ethics laws.

"We are aware of statutes and codes that generally govern these matters," the senators wrote, "but recusal decisions of Supreme Court justices are more complicated because they are not subject to further review."

"Please be more specific," the senators wrote, referring to how she might handle recusals in "cases arising out of matters on which you worked at the White House, or as a lawyer for President Bush in his personal capacity, or in service to his various campaigns."

Democratic aides, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the inquiry, said they had in mind cases arising from antiterrorism legislation or the torture of prisoners of war, among others.

The letter also shined a new light on Ms. Miers's disclosure on Tuesday that while she was in the White House, the District of Columbia Bar suspended her law license briefly for nonpayment of dues.

The senators requested documentation, correspondence and "canceled checks" that might "help us understand the facts and circumstances of your suspension."

The letter repeated a request to list "all litigated matters in which you were involved" and the senators said aides had identified many other cases not in her original reply.



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« Reply #21 on: October 20, 2005, 04:51:53 PM »

What is even more scary is her mistake on a simple constitutional law issue.

http://patterico.com/2005/10/20/3805/out-on-the-ledge/
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« Reply #22 on: October 20, 2005, 11:48:47 PM »

When all is said and done, do you think she will make it? I don't know how often nominations have been rejected, but it seems like she's going to have a rough time.  Then who will Bush pick?  How many female lawyer/judge pals does he have?
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« Reply #23 on: October 21, 2005, 02:33:28 PM »

It is a bad move on Bush's part and she will not be confirmed. Pushing her religious values was stupid. How can that help a judge give an objectionable decision on just the facts?
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« Reply #24 on: October 21, 2005, 04:52:05 PM »

What little amount of support I had for Bush is bening shred apart with this nomination.  This is just another stupid fucking mistake after another.  I'm really starting to believe the liberals are right and Bush is just an arrogant bastard toying with us.  No one in the fucking world can tell me that there isn't a more qualified and credentialed candidate out there or even on Bush's list.  His continual fuck ups and apparent desire to keep fucking up is enough to make the most die hard conservative rethink their support and loyalty.  rant
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« Reply #25 on: October 21, 2005, 05:56:49 PM »

What little amount of support I had for Bush is bening shred apart with this nomination.? This is just another stupid fucking mistake after another.? I'm really starting to believe the liberals are right and Bush is just an arrogant bastard toying with us.? No one in the fucking world can tell me that there isn't a more qualified and credentialed candidate out there or even on Bush's list.? His continual fuck ups and apparent desire to keep fucking up is enough to make the most die hard conservative rethink their support and loyalty.? rant

I can't explain why Bush picked her. But the liberals are not right, don't fall for that crap, they just want to be back in the white house and will do anything to get there even if it means undermining our efforts against terrorism.
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« Reply #26 on: October 21, 2005, 08:41:43 PM »

What little amount of support I had for Bush is bening shred apart with this nomination.? This is just another stupid fucking mistake after another.? I'm really starting to believe the liberals are right and Bush is just an arrogant bastard toying with us.? No one in the fucking world can tell me that there isn't a more qualified and credentialed candidate out there or even on Bush's list.? His continual fuck ups and apparent desire to keep fucking up is enough to make the most die hard conservative rethink their support and loyalty.? rant

I can't explain why Bush picked her. But the liberals are not right, don't fall for that crap, they just want to be back in the white house and will do anything to get there even if it means undermining our efforts against terrorism.

I think Bush is arrogant and I don't consider myself liberal.  A democrat, yes, but only slightly to the left of center.  Which brings me to a question I've been wondering about...how far to the left do you have to be to be considered liberal?  Because I grew up outside of Berkley, CA and to me, those are true liberals.  I don't think anyone on this board holds a candle to those folks when it comes to liberal views.  Or do conservatives call all democrats liberals because it sounds a lot worse than "democrat"?
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« Reply #27 on: October 21, 2005, 09:03:40 PM »

Liberal shouldn't be a bad word. Classic liberals? (I think JFK is good example) appeal to me. I think the problem is really with people like Michael Moore who give the term a bad name.

Also, it's a relative term. Liberal in the US is in a lot of ways the opposite of liberal in China or an Eastern European country. For example, in Bulgaria which used to be a Soviet Bloc country, now the right of center parties there are considered "liberal."
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« Reply #28 on: October 21, 2005, 11:20:15 PM »



I can't explain why Bush picked her. But the liberals are not right, don't fall for that crap, they just want to be back in the white house and will do anything to get there even if it means undermining our efforts against terrorism.


Bush undermined it the day he went into Iraq.

The CIA leak case will bring the traitors out of the white house and to justice very soon. This has nothing to do with the Dems, and everything to do with treason, lies and more lies.

 I already have dinner plans for the day the indictments go down.  Grin

Delay was just the prelude of the shit that is going to hit the fan for the crooks, liars and murderers who run this country.
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« Reply #29 on: October 22, 2005, 10:38:55 AM »



I can't explain why Bush picked her. But the liberals are not right, don't fall for that crap, they just want to be back in the white house and will do anything to get there even if it means undermining our efforts against terrorism.


Bush undermined it the day he went into Iraq.

The CIA leak case will bring the traitors out of the white house and to justice very soon. This has nothing to do with the Dems, and everything to do with treason, lies and more lies.

 I already have dinner plans for the day the indictments go down.? Grin

Delay was just the prelude of the shit that is going to hit the fan for the crooks, liars and murderers who run this country.
I could be wrong, but I thought that I heard they are going to charge them with Martha Stewart charges.? In other words, they aren't going to indict them on the actual incident, but for obstructing the investigation and possibly perjury.? If they did this, then kick them out and bust them.
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« Reply #30 on: October 22, 2005, 11:12:19 AM »

When all is said and done, do you think she will make it? I don't know how often nominations have been rejected, but it seems like she's going to have a rough time.? Then who will Bush pick?? How many female lawyer/judge pals does he have?
Here is a quote from Judge Bork:

"With a single stroke--the nomination of Harriet Miers--the president has damaged the prospects for reform of a left-leaning and imperialistic Supreme Court, taken the heart out of a rising generation of constitutional scholars, and widened the fissures within the conservative movement. That's not a bad day's work--for liberals."


I think it is still a difficult question because she has not gone through the hearings yet.? I think there are a lot of Republicans that want to vote against her, but they are scared that there might be political ramifications within the party.? I think it will be one of those situations where if one prominent republican jumps ship, there will be many that follow.? I don't think she will be able to perform at the hearings.? She is going to have to demonstrate extensive knowledge of Constitutional law, something I don't think she can cram for in a month.

Here is a site that follows different issues in the form of a betting market.? I think it is an interesting thing to view things:
http://www.tradesports.com/aav2/trading/tradingHTML.jsp?evID=35891&eventSelect=35891&updateList=true&showExpired=false

Nominations do not often get rejected.? Judge Bork was rejected and Douglas Ginsberg withdrew his nomination for the seat that Justice Kennedy eventually got appointed for.? Besides that, we have to look back to the Nixon administration to see candidates get rejected.? There have also been many that have made it to the court despite their less than stellar qualifications.? Based on the history that I have read, the traditional role of the Senate under the "advise and consent clause" has not been to look at judicial philosophy, as Schumer and others will claim; it has been to look at the qualifications, demeanor, and to prevent favoritism by the President.

Now the million dollar question, who would he nominate should Miers withdraw?? I think this is a difficult question and part of the reason the democrats are not so quick to jump against Miers.? The democrats know there is a possibility of getting someone more intellectual and more conservative.? I am not sure how many of you read Supreme Court opinions, but in my opinion Scalia often makes his opponents look like amatuers as he disects their arguments to shreds.? Another Scalia would not bode well for those on the left.? Some such intellects would include: Michael McConnell, a 10th Circuit Court of Appeals Judge who was a former teacher at the University of Chicago known for his scholarship on Regligion and his convincing arguments that Brown v. Board of Education is consistent with an originalist judicial philosophy; Michael Luttig, a judge on the 4th Circuit who clerked for CJ Burger and then Court of Appeals Judge Scalia.? Neither of these will be chosen because as we try to be diverse and accepting, our President will most likely not even consider another white male.? The choice I think he should have made was Janice Rogers Brown, currently on the DC Circuit and former Justice on the California Supreme Court.? Justice Brown is an African America woman that is actually extremely well-qualified for the job.? She is an intellect and she has a strict judicial philosophy that she won't have to determine weeks before the hearings.? The problem with her is that she will bring a fight.? Her court of appeals nomination was stalled numerous times before she made it to the DC Circuit based on the compromise among senators.? Years back, she made some comments about Lochner v. New York and whether it was correctly decided.? I don't believe she said the case was decided incorrectly, but that the court has abandoned economic liberties in the Consitution.? I think she is correct in her statement, but the more you comment on cases that may hurt the power or judicial philosophy of those in the Senate, you are giving yourself a battle.

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« Reply #31 on: October 23, 2005, 04:43:27 AM »



I can't explain why Bush picked her. But the liberals are not right, don't fall for that crap, they just want to be back in the white house and will do anything to get there even if it means undermining our efforts against terrorism.


Bush undermined it the day he went into Iraq.

The CIA leak case will bring the traitors out of the white house and to justice very soon. This has nothing to do with the Dems, and everything to do with treason, lies and more lies.

 I already have dinner plans for the day the indictments go down.? Grin

Delay was just the prelude of the shit that is going to hit the fan for the crooks, liars and murderers who run this country.

That's what I'm talking about. This Michale Moore style of hate and negativity is what gives the term liberal a bad name. If Delay is guilty he should face the consequences and get the maximum penalty. But the man hasn't been convicted of anything yet, and people like you are gloating and calling republicans "crooks, liars and murderers." This sort of spitefulness has no place in the mainstream and that's why the term liberal has taken a negative connotation in america.
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« Reply #32 on: October 23, 2005, 09:27:55 AM »

If you give a liberal enough rope they tend to hang themselves  hihi
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