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There hasn't been a major innovation in music, since the birth of Grunge
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There are no new ideas, only new ways of doing old ideas.
Does anybody agree with me?
Even Nu Metal is basically Grungy Metal
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Re: There hasn't been a major innovation in music, since the birth of Grunge
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no your wrong.
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Quote from: The New Fiona Apple on September 30, 2005, 03:46:41 PM
Even Nu Metal is basically Grungy Metal
but if you look at it that way, grunge was basically metallish punk
IMO there hasn't been any true major innovation since industrial
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Quote from: The New Fiona Apple on September 30, 2005, 03:46:41 PM
There are no new ideas, only new ways of doing old ideas.?
Does anybody agree with me?
Even Nu Metal is basically Grungy Metal
I do agree with you. The only bands I really enjoy now are Gov't Mule, which is a throwback to the 70's style, and I do like Muse. But I still find myself listening to PJ, Soundgarden, AIC and so forth because I feel that since Grunge went out, i just can't get into and feel this new music. It's a shame.
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There hasn't been a major innovation in
music
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Music does not equal "Rock Music"
Hip hop only started going mainstream around the same time as grunge and it has definetaly been changing over the years since then.
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Quote from: The New Fiona Apple on September 30, 2005, 03:46:41 PM
There are no new ideas, only new ways of doing old ideas.
Does anybody agree with me?
Even Nu Metal is basically Grungy Metal
And grunge was doing the same thing twelve years ago.
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Melodic Death Metal?
Metalcore?
Ambient Black Metal?
You haven't been listening enough. A lot of people criticize these genres as derivative, but that's like claiming Classical music is just a rip off of Baroque! There are plenty of great bands out there that are ignored. Check out Grom and Destroyer 666; those are some great bands that somehow never get attention.
Nu "Metal" is just rock music with down tuned guitars and shouted vocals. It's based on rock, not heavy metal. Grunge itself isn't really an innovation, just a scene, or a fad, if you will. Musically, it isn't far removed from punk or alternative rock. Melodic Death, on the other hand, is very different from br00tal death metal!
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Quote from: Walk on September 30, 2005, 08:55:43 PM
Melodic Death Metal?
Metalcore?
Ambient Black Metal?
You haven't been listening enough. A lot of people criticize these genres as derivative, but that's like claiming Classical music is just a rip off of Baroque! There are plenty of great bands out there that are ignored. Check out Grom and Destroyer 666; those are some great bands that somehow never get attention.
Nu "Metal" is just rock music with down tuned guitars and shouted vocals. It's based on rock, not heavy metal. Grunge itself isn't really an innovation, just a scene, or a fad, if you will. Musically, it isn't far removed from punk or alternative rock. Melodic Death, on the other hand, is very different from br00tal death metal!
None of those genre's are even music
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Quote from: grendood on September 30, 2005, 03:49:53 PM
no your wrong.
I am not saying either is right. But maybe you could be a little less pessamistic and say one or two reasons why it is wrong?
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Quote from: Eazy E on September 30, 2005, 06:56:41 PM
There hasn't been a major innovation in
music
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Music does not equal "Rock Music"
Hip hop only started going mainstream around the same time as grunge and it has definetaly been changing over the years since then.
Yeah half of them sound the same as "tu pac" did back in his days. Except there even more annoying.
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i cant fault that there's no real brilliant music tho industrial is ok.
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Fuck innovation! What rock music needs today is players that can actualy play their fuckin instruments and write good songs.
GNR didn't invent anything, they just took the music they love and took it to annother level/
And saying that Grunge was a major innovation in music is hilarious!
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Quote from: Izzy on October 01, 2005, 03:47:28 AM
None of those genre's are even music
exactly ... they are the addenda at the bottom of the page page of the complete book of rock music
funny when you look on other non rock based forums you find plenty of people who would find bands all across the spectrum...on rock based forums most cannot get passed the rock genre...
maybe rock's image gives out too much of a narrow minded view? and as a result there is no innovation
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Quote from: The IQ of MacMaul on October 01, 2005, 07:13:48 AM
maybe rock's image gives out too much of a narrow minded view?
Good enough for me. I rather listen to the old material that i have than start on bands like 'Rasmus' and the like.
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Quote from: mrlee on October 01, 2005, 05:04:53 AM
Yeah half of them sound the same as "tu pac" did back in his days. Except there even more annoying.
Meh, maybe the stuff on the radio. That's up to you, but Pac was after grunge.
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I though he was like about in 92?
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Cock Rock '82-'91
Grunge '91-'94
Post Grunge '95-'98
Nu-Metal- '98-'02
EMO-'02-current
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Quote from: mrlee on October 01, 2005, 12:41:06 PM
I though he was like about in 92?
I think he was most popular around 95-96.
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Quote from: Izzy on October 01, 2005, 03:47:28 AM
None of those genre's are even music
Most of those genres have non RIAA artists who wouldn't care if you downloaded a few tracks and became more open minded.
No one should complain about a lack of talent in music if they don't go for new bands and genres. If you insist on cock rock, then listen to Pink Steel or something.
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Quote from: Walk on October 01, 2005, 03:40:15 PM
Quote from: Izzy on October 01, 2005, 03:47:28 AM
None of those genre's are even music
Most of those genres have non RIAA artists who wouldn't care if you downloaded a few tracks and became more open minded.
I'm fascinated to hear what the hell Melodic Death Metal and Ambient Black Metal are!
Does it go beyond some idiot screaming nonsensical giberish and a drum kit going flat out? Melodic death metal - lol, does that actually have 'music' sections in between the ''roar roar roaaaaaaaaaaar!!!!!!!!!''
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