NEW RUMOR

[dave-gnfnr2k]

This rumor is bullshit. Interscope and Sanctuary would not be making plans for the 2nd CD while still trying to get the first CD out. The rumor was almost believeable until he mentioned the 2nd CD.

You have heard of a long term plan right? Axl has been talking about the 3 album thing since 2001. If this rumor is true plus what dizzy said then it makes it even more true.

So again, I ask you believers this. Just because the rumor mentions something Axl and Dizzy has mentioned, it must be true?


Here's a rumor: There's gonna be a song about child abuse on the album. I heard it from a secret source.

Oh wait, it was mentioned in an Axl article in 2001.

Maybe I'm too pessimistic, I just don't get this "rumor". To me it looks like a bunch of old news/rumors put together to make a new one. Add some speculation to it as well as "Axl might change his mind" and there you have it. A new rumor.


/jarmo

If people dont want to hear rumors or what not then dont open this threads. Its that simple. IF this all comes true no one is going to apoligize to dark for calling him names if he turns out to be correct. He heard a rumor from someone that works at interscope, that is why its called a RUMOR.   Its something to talk about. I just find it funny if Mysteron gave his same rumor people would be praising him.

[Falcon]

Maybe I'm too pessimistic.


/jarmo

I'm not sure if pessimistic is the right word Jarmo, I think realist is a bit better description.

I'm with you (no offense to dark), it just seems like old info with a splash of speculation..

[jarmo]

He heard a rumor from someone that works at interscope, that is why its called a RUMOR.? ?Its something to talk about.

He says he heard it from somebody at the record company. I remember a guy who said he had access to "secret faxes".
 
Also, people who get their hopes up usually get let down when something doesn't happen. Who gets the blame at the end?

Yeah, the guy who "cancelled" his Atlanta gig!

I just find it funny if Mysteron gave his same rumor people would be praising him.

Depends. If he said "I talked to a guy at Interscope" and posted something we had head before, I'd question the validity.

If he showed proof of the conversation taking place, then I could at least see that he didn't make it up himself.



/jarmo

[Will]

I just find it funny if Mysteron gave his same rumor people would be praising him.

Truth is, Mysteron would probably never post such rumors.

The reason I don't believe this is not because of dark or whoever, it's just that I have seen so many threads/ rumors like this over the years. You get disappointed a few times, after a while it gets old.

[mikegiuliana]

I think some of you are too gullible.. This is not an insult just an observation.. We all jump the gun and want to believe so badly that we start to feed into almost any rumor... I say it's nice to hear, but I wouldn't get up any hope.. As I said before I hope for all our sakes spending more tiem then life on gnr/vr forums that it happens.. Fuck what other reason these days do we have to frequent gnr forums, and how long can we speak of so few songs and old shows? Just don't argue over rumors or get your hopes up to high, we are gnr fans afterall, (older fans know the deal) but we know the saga, the drama nad the end results for 99.9% of the rumors..

[GypsySoul]

IN DEFENSE OF dARKNEMUS:

dark ISN'T the one who posted this 'NEW RUMOR' at HTGTH ... other people saw it on another board and brought it here!!!
What dark did post himself here (in another thread) was Sanctuary news WITH A SOURCE.

So IMO, dark knew he'd catch shit if he posted more uncorroborated rumor shit here at HTGTH, SO HE DIDN'T!!!

I'm NOT defending the rumor but I think it's unfair of us here to attack dark over something he didn't himself post here.  So my suggestion to all of you who want to attack somebody:? Attack the ones who actually posted it here because they're the ones SPREADING the rumors!!!

[RnT]

IN DEFENSE OF dARKNEMUS:

dark ISN'T the one who posted this 'NEW RUMOR' at HTGTH ... other people saw it on another board and brought it here!!!
What dark did post himself here (in another thread) was Sanctuary news WITH A SOURCE.

So IMO, dark knew he'd catch shit if he posted more uncorroborated rumor shit here at HTGTH, SO HE DIDN'T!!!

I'm NOT defending the rumor but I think it's unfair of us here to attack dark over something he didn't himself post here.? So my suggestion to all of you who want to attack somebody:? Attack the ones who actually posted it here because they're the ones SPREADING the rumors!!!

yeah yeah yeaahhhh !!
let?s start to throw rocks to the fucker that posted in here!!!!!!

[Nytunz]

IN DEFENSE OF dARKNEMUS:

dark ISN'T the one who posted this 'NEW RUMOR' at HTGTH ... other people saw it on another board and brought it here!!!
What dark did post himself here (in another thread) was Sanctuary news WITH A SOURCE.

So IMO, dark knew he'd catch shit if he posted more uncorroborated rumor shit here at HTGTH, SO HE DIDN'T!!!

I'm NOT defending the rumor but I think it's unfair of us here to attack dark over something he didn't himself post here.? So my suggestion to all of you who want to attack somebody:? Attack the ones who actually posted it here because they're the ones SPREADING the rumors!!!

Yeah. True! Good post!
I think people should read into every RUMOUR with a open mind!
If i heard from "what i had concider" a good  source, i would post it here. Not because i wanted to stand behind the rumour 100% and clamed its truth!,
but because i wanna share everything i hear about GNR with my fellow Gunners! I dont post sources to anything anymore, like, emails form Fortus or whatever, because if i do theres alot of negative pripps posting things like:! "We already know that?, There is nothing new!, Heard it before, Fortus is lyin", or something like that! I got an email from Fortus 2 days ago, and i only informed what he said about GNR. Nothing more, because i conciderd the unrelated stuff as personal!
Anyway Dark and anyone else, if you hear anything... Let us know! Dont mind the negativity! Atleast someone knows you do it because you wanna share! If they take a rumour for News thats theyr own fault!

ps: Another thing is people making up rumours, but i guess they are pretty easy to look throug.
 - Nytunz -

[Buddha_Master]

Bottom line. If Darkman was a key player in getting the IRS demo to us...then the only thing that should be coming out of your stupid fucking mouths is "thank you."

Shit where was the thread thanking Darkman for IRS? That was the coolest thing we got from GNR since 2002. Man, there is some disrespectful motherfuckers in here. 

Its obvious reading through some of these posts, that some of you need your asses kicked proper like.

[Cocaine__tongue]

True or false, some rumours are still fun to read, even more when there's a lack of news (and rumours) like recently.

Anyway, no real info has been given here with this rumour. Until there's an official statement, nothing new.

[jameslofton29]

Dave, you think there is some long term plan in concern to a CD trilogy? You think Interscope and Sanctuary are spending money and time on a 2nd and 3rd album? Highly unlikely. When it comes to GNR, the only thing they are concerned about is Chinese Democracy. At this moment in time, they dont care about a 2nd CD, and they really dont give a shit about completing some mythical trilogy. Even if Axl went to Interscope yesterday and promised them a trilogy, they wouldn't be concentrating on anything that could happen after CD. Which proves the rumor to be bullshit. I'm not trying to insult the guy who brought this rumor out in the open. He was probably just given disinformation.

[Voodoochild]

And how do you know what Interscope and Sanctuary thinks? Do you work for them? No? Ok...

This is not a proof for anything. I don't believe in darknemus rumour too, but the thing about the trilogy is not just a rumor. Axl and Dizzy already talked about this.

[Mikkamakka]

And how do you know what Interscope and Sanctuary thinks? Do you work for them? No? Ok...

This is not a proof for anything. I don't believe in darknemus rumour too, but the thing about the trilogy is not just a rumor. Axl and Dizzy already talked about this.

Years ago when they thought that CD would come out in 2001 or 2002. BTW everything that Axl or his musicians say isn't more than only a rumor.

[jameslofton29]

I never said the trilogy was a rumor.I was describing the fact that Interscope and Sanctuary dont care at this particular time. Axl could have 10 CD's ready to go, it still doesn't take away from the fact that their only concern is the first one. By the way Voodoo, how do you know that I dont work for Interscope?

[Voodoochild]

Years ago when they thought that CD would come out in 2001 or 2002. BTW everything that Axl or his musicians say isn't more than only a rumor.

Of course it is. If Axl say about the release date of CD on TV, would you still thinkin' this is only a regular rumor?

I never said the trilogy was a rumor.I was describing the fact that Interscope and Sanctuary dont care at this particular time. Axl could have 10 CD's ready to go, it still doesn't take away from the fact that their only concern is the first one.

Maybe the contract with Interscope is to release those 3 albums. Who knows? Also, if Axl wouldn't want to release the first one before finish the other two, I think  Interscope or Sanctuary would care about it.

By the way Voodoo, how do you know that I dont work for Interscope?

I don't know, that's why I asked. But I read your posts here that's why I guess its very unlikely.

[jameslofton29]

Voodoo, if the contract was for the CD trilogy, I'm sure we would have heard something about it by now. We would have heard a shitload of rumors about several albums. Even if Axl wanted to finish two more albums before releasing one, Interscope/Sanctuary still wouldn't make those albums a top priority. They would rather spend time and money to get the ball rolling with album number one. By the way, you're right. I dont work for Interscope. I'm Axl's janitor!

[madagas]

James, get a fuckin clue. Interscope wants as many albums and songs as they can get their hands on from Axl. And, the sooner the better. It is probably going to take multiple albums to recoup their money invested. And, knowing how unpredictable Axl is, they will take whatever they can get-trust me. I really think the dope and meth got to you a bit. All your arguments are always slightly "off center." Not to mention the sheer volume of negativity that oozes from every post of yours. Seriously, don't you like any other bands? Please go to their board for a while.

[jameslofton29]

madagas, how is discussing Interscope's strategy in relation to CD oozing negativity? If you dont like my posts, why keep responding to them? Just ignore it. You should try contributing to a conversation sometimes, instead of just putting people down.

[jimmythegent]

IMO, both dark and Mysteron are playing games, and I don't believe either one of them. One thinks novels make him look a bit more intelligent and legit, while the other one thinks that one liners make him look busy and important.

Well, I don't care how intelligent, legit, busy or important they are because it doesn't make a fucken difference when all we get from them is just absolutely nothing.

Regardless who's "in the know" or not - both are obviously not in the position to provide the least bit of fact that would shut everyone up. As far as the actual content goes, their posts are always just as positive and upbeat as they are vague.

So how long before people are finally sick of how his crap leads to pages of useless discussions and speculations about absolutely nothing?

As far as the treatment goes, before I'd kiss anyone's ass just to get a fucken bootleg recording or a bit of info, I'd rather wait another ten years for the real thing. We (the fans) should stick together and help each other out, rather than playing some "I'm cooler than you" contest with the info and bits we pick up along the way.

I mean this is everyone's favourite band for fucks sake. We are not making the silence any better by playing games with each other, are we?

Street teams and Biff Tannen my ass, blow me fucken bullshitters!?

nice post

if people think they know something, then by all means share it
why are people more likely to believe Mysterons vague assertions about 3 months ago about street teams, than this by Dark?

[pilferk]

This rumor is bullshit. Interscope and Sanctuary would not be making plans for the 2nd CD while still trying to get the first CD out. The rumor was almost believeable until he mentioned the 2nd CD.

You have heard of a long term plan right? Axl has been talking about the 3 album thing since 2001. If this rumor is true plus what dizzy said then it makes it even more true.

So again, I ask you believers this. Just because the rumor mentions something Axl and Dizzy has mentioned, it must be true?


Here's a rumor: There's gonna be a song about child abuse on the album. I heard it from a secret source.

Oh wait, it was mentioned in an Axl article in 2001.

Maybe I'm too pessimistic, I just don't get this "rumor". To me it looks like a bunch of old news/rumors put together to make a new one. Add some speculation to it as well as "Axl might change his mind" and there you have it. A new rumor.


/jarmo

See, jarmo, there are too possible conclusions:

1) It's cobbled together from other information and "made up".

2) It's true and it's further corroberation of the OTHER information we've gotten.

Both conclusions are equally grounded and supportable.? Which you choose to come to is a matter of opinion.

So, it's not that it MUST be true.....it's that you can reasonably conclude it MIGHT be true.

It's not that your opinion is not valid.? It's that it's not the ONLY opinion that's valid, given what we know.

Does that explain it?