NEW RUMOR

[mega_music]

Again my fingers are crossed, I'm starting to develope arthritis from having the crossed some many freaking times. Dark thanks for sharing the information with us  . No matter what there will always be someone who trys and shoot down the messenger.

[ClintroN]

cool news, its gotta be 'round the corner man

[33]

so when is that Alanis-Axl duet going to be released?

Where did this one crop up from? That would be cool as fuck!

[PeterCoffin]

I'll tell you why he didn't post it here. Look at the reaction it got when he DIDN'T post it here.

[Will]

I don't believe this...I'm waiting for some info from Universal or Sanctuary. Until then, Chinese Democracy is still in the vaults.

[WARose]

the title said it allready   a new rumour. it could also say "another rumour"

there was a time when i got excited by rumours.... 

`the only thing i`m afraid of, is that at some point, one of these bullshit rumours will be true and the poster will get his ass kissed....

[Luigi]

I want to believe just one time I'll take the chance and say I believe in Dark. It's time the red headed wild man deliver anyway.

why shoot the messenger/ with your bitch slap rappin   

[rainX]

some of dark's previous posts:

Feb 19th, 2004:

"Only direct connection I can draw is I've heard several times the disc is, for all intents and purposes, done.  It just hasn't been delivered to Interscope for release.  Whether that's due to the final track list not being decided, or possibly more 'vocal tweaks' or even an editing of the liner notes - I dont know.  I'll throw my pure speculation in there, though, and say that I just think there's some inate fear with Axl to actually 'turn over' the disc.  Because at that point, maybe something he's really not ready for begins - the true public test of GNR's viability, circa 2004.

-darknemus"

again, same date:

"Then, according to an email I received last night, "all hell has truly broken loose"  I can't tell you everything the guy said to me - hell, most of it doesnt relate to any of this - but here's the jist.. from, again, what's being heard from people 'in the know' (and it could still very well be wrong.. hence the problem with third-party information)

GH is coming out (a big 'duh' on that one)
GNR have yet to turn over a 'final mix' of CD to Interscope.
RIO IV's lack of official confirmation is a big problem - looks to be some sort of money issue.. I dont know the details on it.
If Axl attempts to sue to stop GH's release from occuring, then details of the 'gentlemen's agreement' made between the band and the label will be made public.  basically, it'll turn into a big old mud slinging fest.
It is the opinion of some higher-ups at Universal that GH is a more 'marketable' product than CD.  This is mostly the 'Rock = a 1/2 dead genre' type of folks.. but they're still money people.
Once GH 'streets', expect 2-3 more leaks of IRS caliber.  probably to file sharing networks as opposed to 3 AM on some radio show on a Holiday.  This point is big - its the 3rd time I've heard (from two different people now) in the last 8 months that there is a huge desire to 'punish' Axl for all of these delays.  IRS was step one in that punishment.  GH is step two.  leaks are step three.  step four is 'cut our losses and just drop this failed project'"

And check out this one: http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=13211.msg230523#msg230523  from a discussion of one of his "sources" in JUNE 2004

I could post more if anyone really still wants to fool themselves into believing this guy. He's just guessing all the time, and one day, he might be right. But look at his history.......

[ppbebe]

`the only thing i`m afraid of, is that at some point, one of these bullshit rumours will be true and the poster will get his ass kissed....

Sounds like a verse off IRS and I agree WARose
For all the rumours I can tell something didn't work so well? 
Moreover, with all the bogus rumours, some vulnerable dupes end up believing this.

Rumors simply never come true because Axl is always changing his mind.  I bet there have been numerous rumors on this board in the past that have had some sort of truth behind them, but plans change.  I'm almost for certain Axl has had a few different release dates in his head over the years.  People start to get word of it, start to talk, and that is how rumors get started, but then Axl changes his mind.

I don't think it's fair to Axl. For the false alarms never raised by him or his people but based on in-outskirt-siders half cooked info, why should the blame be put on him? Utter Bollocks.

Otherwise, like neemo said, Rumours are fun. Thanks dark.

[33]

Hey all you whining negative people! Whats with all the bitching and moaning at Darkemus? At least the dude is positive and how the fuck does anyone know that he does not have some sort of inside knowledge? Yeh if he turns out to be a fraud then yeh its fucked up, until then lets not judge eh? But for me a lot of Darkemus's posts definetely makes a hell of a lot better reading than the whinging pricks who try and turn every post or rumour into something sinister or negative! Come on people we are so very very close to getting this album, lets just enjoy this barrage of news and rumours and wait for the day that we all want!!

[rainX]

Hey all you whining negative people! Whats with all the bitching and moaning at Darkemus? At least the dude is positive and how the fuck does anyone know that he does not have some sort of inside knowledge? Yeh if he turns out to be a fraud then yeh its fucked up, until then lets not judge eh? But for me a lot of Darkemus's posts definetely makes a hell of a lot better reading than the whinging pricks who try and turn every post or rumour into something sinister or negative! Come on people we are so very very close to getting this album, lets just enjoy this barrage of news and rumours and wait for the day that we all want!!

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=11144.msg192551#msg192551

Sounds like a real positive kind of guy.

[33]

Hey all you whining negative people! Whats with all the bitching and moaning at Darkemus? At least the dude is positive and how the fuck does anyone know that he does not have some sort of inside knowledge? Yeh if he turns out to be a fraud then yeh its fucked up, until then lets not judge eh? But for me a lot of Darkemus's posts definetely makes a hell of a lot better reading than the whinging pricks who try and turn every post or rumour into something sinister or negative! Come on people we are so very very close to getting this album, lets just enjoy this barrage of news and rumours and wait for the day that we all want!!

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=11144.msg192551#msg192551

Sounds like a real positive kind of guy.

Ah mate! You need to get out more! I am not talking about every fucking post the dude has ever made for fucks sake! If we were all that sad to go scrolling over every old post that everyone on this site has ever made then all of us would have made a bad comment from time to time. I am talking about his recent post/rumour/news whatever you want to call it! Its just makes much more positive reading than negative crap!

[Buddha_Master]

Fuck if Darky got IRS out to us, and that is fact...then I am afraid I must personally gather some funds together, fly out to each and everyone of you talking shit to him, and beat the ever living shit out of you.

IRS made me believe again. Listen, Darky Dark and the funky bunch...if you were responsible for getting IRS out, then all I got to say to you is, thank you brother. ? ?

You are alright by me. Fuck these clowns. I remember you from way back on here, and these kids today need to show some respect.

I bet these little punks choke, and if they do, they have no clue what me and my homie Snoop Dogg came to do. You know what I'm saying. Aaaah fuck it.

[pilferk]

Hey all you whining negative people! Whats with all the bitching and moaning at Darkemus? At least the dude is positive and how the fuck does anyone know that he does not have some sort of inside knowledge? Yeh if he turns out to be a fraud then yeh its fucked up, until then lets not judge eh? But for me a lot of Darkemus's posts definetely makes a hell of a lot better reading than the whinging pricks who try and turn every post or rumour into something sinister or negative! Come on people we are so very very close to getting this album, lets just enjoy this barrage of news and rumours and wait for the day that we all want!!

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=11144.msg192551#msg192551

Sounds like a real positive kind of guy.

How novel.? A debate of darks credibility.

I'm not gonna point out that dark HAS actually been right in the past.? Nor will I point out that he was the point man (if not the direct source) of the IRS leak.? Nor will I point out that he's a stand up guy who's only relaying stuff he's heard from other people and that darks main flaw (if he has one) is that he can be TOO trusting and loyal a friend who has, in the past, believed the wrong people and relayed their information.? Nor will I point out that, the fact of the matter is, Axl changes his mind as frequently as most people (not including D of course?...he changes his MUCH less frequently ) change their underwear and that ANY information, reliable or not, has about as much chance of turning out to be true, tomorrow, as Axl does of launching CD via the internet independantly at the same time.

I'm not gonna point any of that stuff out (wait...or did I just??) because it's all been done before.? This particular topic has been done ad nauseum, all across this forum (and, in fact, I think it's why dark tends to post here less than he used to...it must be tiresome).? In fact...it should have it's own damn thread in the "Dead Horse" section.

Believe him or don't.? But, at this point, let's NOT relive this discussion EVERY TIME the guy posts something, eh?

[pilferk]

You are correct. If it was someone else with no background I would say bullshit. But being he has been a posting member here for awhile I would liek to think I can believe him. It could be bullshit. MOst likely it is. But if I cant trust my fellow posters here who can I trust? If Dark is just playing games, I feel bad for him.

After searching, it appears darknemus is indeed the GNFR guy.

The same guy that pays extra $ each year to mask the GNFR.com domain and then pretends that any changes to the site have "mysteriously" happened as if we should care.

You lose - good day, sir!

dark is not, and was not, the gnfr web master.


And no...neither was/am I.

[pilferk]

Well in my opinon Dave, the info wasn't anything new and the rest is just speculation.

As far as I remember, he has posted rumors before and nothing has happened so far. One day he'll get it right.


Many of these Internet rumors are always saying "but plans can change". Just to cover their backs.

Once we get a real rumor from somebody who knows what he/she is talking about, they don't need that kind of disclaimer.



/jarmo

Not fer nothing, but...

Even the BAND MEMBERS have been wrong about stuff. 

And I think we can all agree that most reasonable people would think they were credible.

And even THEY now, oftentimes, preface or suffix what they have to say with a "disclaimer".

So, essentially, your statement above would seem to indicate NO ONE is credible....except maybe Axl...and even HE'S been wrong before.

[jarmo]

I am talking about his recent post/rumour/news whatever you want to call it! Its just makes much more positive reading than negative crap!

Let me get this straight. A rumor, even if it's bullshit, is good as long as it's positive?

How can you get positive about something like this?

"The album's gonna be followed up by another album in 1-1.5 years. The record company and management are working on it".


What's the next piece of positive rumors gonna be? "Axl might sing on the next tour, unless he changes his mind again."?


I know you're dying for some news, but there was none in this rumor. It's nothing you couldn't come up with yourself based on what Tommy said and then add the possibility of the album being done.

Like this:
Assume album is done -> record company plans its release.
Tommy says news might be coming soon -> record company must be deciding on its release and/or management are working on something.

Even the BAND MEMBERS have been wrong about stuff.

Yeah, but they're band members. There's a difference in posting something you heard from some guy and something you heard from actual band members.




/jarmo

[C0ma]

I just love that the people tearing down dark are the same people that start threads like these:

"OMG!! Robin changed the theme of his website......CD Starts now"
or
"What drugs have the gunners admited to?"


Those threads offer nothing, all they do is raise the post counts of people who seem to get overly excited that they have the time to post 2500 times over the course of a three month period.

dark on the other hand passes on information that he gets, and offers a bit of his own interpretation. Sure it might not all happen as he states, but he doesn't tend to be to far off. I can tell you for sure that he isn't sitting in a St. Louis Hotel room thinking up stories he can spread on a GnR message board. All he is doing is passing on second hand info (with a disclaimer) for people to ponder.

To be honest I would rather come here daily and find a well written thought out post from dark then to weed through 42 one word nonsensical reply's to the thread "This is the Best Lineup Since 1993"

[madagas]

For what it is worth, I believe darknemus is passing on what he has heard. Is it going to happen, who knows? But, I don't believe he is bullshitting at all. He is a fellow Axlite and Axlites have been beat down enough. If he was a big VR fan and anti Axl, I would think he was taking us for a ride. In my opinion, he is a more interesting guy than 99% of this board.

[ppbebe]

I thought the gnfr web master might be the same person as the rumour board admin. 

Nor will I point out that, the fact of the matter is, Axl changes his mind as frequently as most people  change their underwear

How you can be so sure about that?

Good one 

Ta!

H.

Aitch? 
I go carry on.
How many letters in W Axl Rose? 8!
how many notes in an octave? 8! <- 's quite pathetic.

Isnt the orchestra down to 7 now?

No worries, m8.
It's still seems that Chinese democracy is the 8 men's collaboration.
An octuple orchestra. gr8!

being septet this year is good
Our common lucky number is 7.
This Year 2005 (2+5)
7 men (officially) in the band
the leader's Age (4+3)

Releasing something late this year and touring from early next year would be the best for them, sophistically speaking.