Fascism on the board

[SLCPUNK]

Yeah, keep deluding yourself about the reality of that "civil war" al qaeda declared in Iraq. I mean, I'm talking to a man who uses al Qaeda as a source of information

Here is an article saying that it is about to happen soon, dated 2004 from Military Times.

http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,FL_civil_122804,00.html

Another explaining a U.S. Intelligence predicting the same thing (2004)

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/853466.cms

Here is another article where both right and left wing warn of Iraq slipping into civil war, from 2004

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3599909.stm

"Undeclared" civil war here as Sunnis and Shiites go at it:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/09/26/eveningnews/main886305.shtml

Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, al Qaeda?s commander in Iraq  declared all out war on the Shiites

http://siteinstitute.org/bin/articles.cgi?ID=publications94205&Category=publications&Subcategory=0

AQ  declaring civil war on the "Shiite and Kurdish dominated Iraqi government and those who back it".:

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/09/14/iraq.main/?section=cnn_latest

Next time, use google!

[POPmetal]

Yeah, keep deluding yourself about the reality of that "civil war" al qaeda declared in Iraq. I mean, I'm talking to a man who uses al Qaeda as a source of information

Here is an article saying that it is about to happen soon, dated 2004 from Military Times.

http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,FL_civil_122804,00.html

Another explaining a U.S. Intelligence predicting the same thing (2004)

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/853466.cms

Here is another article where both right and left wing warn of Iraq slipping into civil war, from 2004

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3599909.stm

"Undeclared" civil war here as Sunnis and Shiites go at it:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/09/26/eveningnews/main886305.shtml

Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, al Qaeda?s commander in Iraq? declared all out war on the Shiites

http://siteinstitute.org/bin/articles.cgi?ID=publications94205&Category=publications&Subcategory=0

AQ? declaring civil war on the "Shiite and Kurdish dominated Iraqi government and those who back it".:

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/09/14/iraq.main/?section=cnn_latest

Next time, use google!

Nothing new here. Yes, everybody knows al Qaeda declared war on the Shiites and Kurds. Problem is: al-Zarqawi/al Qaeda do not speak for the majority of Iraqi Sunnis. The fact that you would take their word for it is very telling!?

I take it you probably also believe that "the devastating hurricane that hit the United States occurred because people in Iraq or Afghanistan -- maybe a mother who had lost her son or a son whose parents were killed or a woman who was raped -- were praying for God and God accepted their prayers." al-Zarqawi said it.

[lynn1961]

I sure am glad I don't live in a country where any of you tolerant people hold any "power"

If your statements here are any indication, you would rationalize that almost everyone who disagrees with you is a fascist and shut them down in the name of "tolerance" 

Attack me all you want, but deep down inside you know I'm right.

GOD BLESS THE USA and the writers of our constitution who made sure that in at least one place on this planet, people like you will NEVER have the upper hand.

Deep down inside, I don't think you are right at all.  "Tolerance" is a bad word.  I don't want to tolerate anyone.  But, I will try to understand people for who they and not be so quick to pass judgement.   

[POPmetal]

I sure am glad I don't live in a country where any of you tolerant people hold any "power"

If your statements here are any indication, you would rationalize that almost everyone who disagrees with you is a fascist and shut them down in the name of "tolerance"?

Attack me all you want, but deep down inside you know I'm right.

GOD BLESS THE USA and the writers of our constitution who made sure that in at least one place on this planet, people like you will NEVER have the upper hand.

Deep down inside, I don't think you are right at all.? "Tolerance" is a bad word.? I don't want to tolerate anyone.? But, I will try to understand people for who they and not be so quick to pass judgement.? ?

can you be more specific what I am not right about?

[lynn1961]

I'm not even going to answer that in specifics.   We disagree, as do some others here.  That does not make you "right".  You have one opinion.  I have another, as do others here.   

[POPmetal]

I'm not even going to answer that in specifics.? ?We disagree, as do some others here.? That does not make you "right".? You have one opinion.? I have another, as do others here.? ?

That's what I thought.? A cheap, random drive by attack. I'm just wrong, period. Everything I've ever said must be wrong?

My first post here in this thread was right on the money. That's why it struck a nerve.

[SLCPUNK]

See, it does not matter the source(s), articles, anything. You are not dealing with a full deck.

Those articles are from the MILITARY TIMES that predict a civil war would probably happen, then more articles saying basically the same thing.

Then, it happens, it is reported and I show you that. AQ declares civil war in Iraq, and the shiites and sunnis are going ape shit.

AQ also took over 5 towns this week.

And you still can't give it up.

I can't fathom this type of denial.

It's like when the downing street memos came out clearing showing Bush planned to go into Iraq before 9-11, and GNRNIGHTRAIN said that these memos cleared Bush of wrong doing... I mean...you guys are nuts!

Good luck in life.

[POPmetal]

See, it does not matter the source(s), articles, anything. You are not dealing with a full deck.

Those articles are from the MILITARY TIMES that predict a civil war would probably happen, then more articles saying basically the same thing.

Then, it happens, it is reported and I show you that. AQ declares civil war in Iraq, and the shiites and sunnis are going ape shit.

AQ also took over 5 towns this week.

And you still can't give it up.

I can't fathom this type of denial.

It's like when the downing street memos came out clearing showing Bush planned to go into Iraq before 9-11, and GNRNIGHTRAIN said that these memos cleared Bush of wrong doing... I mean...you guys are nuts!

Good luck in life.

Keep up the spinning.

The Military Times article (which was really taken from United Press International)? was from December 28, 2004? and it "predicts" a civil war. Still hasn't happened (well, unless you ask al Qaeda or SLCPUNK). Nice try though.

[SLCPUNK]

That is the point.

There were articles leading up to it that saw it coming.

Now there are articles reporting it happen in front of us.

Why can't you admit there is civil war occuring on two different levels? Why is such a big deal to admit?

The sources have been given, and that is from a quick search....

There is nothing to spin. It's right there!

[SLCPUNK]

See, it does not matter the source(s), articles, anything. You are not dealing with a full deck.

Those articles are from the MILITARY TIMES that predict a civil war would probably happen, then more articles saying basically the same thing.

Then, it happens, it is reported and I show you that. AQ declares civil war in Iraq, and the shiites and sunnis are going ape shit.

AQ also took over 5 towns this week.

And you still can't give it up.

I can't fathom this type of denial.

It's like when the downing street memos came out clearing showing Bush planned to go into Iraq before 9-11, and GNRNIGHTRAIN said that these memos cleared Bush of wrong doing... I mean...you guys are nuts!

Good luck in life.

Keep up the spinning.
 Still hasn't happened (well, unless you ask al Qaeda or SLCPUNK). Nice try though.

Or....

bbc

or

cnn

or

India Times

or

CBS

or

AP

What else?

[Will]

Hey guys, don't you have enough threads in the Jungle to attack each other?

[POPmetal]

That is the point.

There were articles leading up to it that saw it coming.

Now there are articles reporting it happen in front of us.

Why can't you admit there is civil war occuring on two different levels? Why is such a big deal to admit?

The sources have been given, and that is from a quick search....

There is nothing to spin. It's right there!

Because the sources are either making "predictions" or quoting al Qaeda, which does not speak for Sunni Iraqis.

[SLCPUNK]

They are quoting AQ yes, but also reporting their huge attack in Baghdad and the slaughter going on between the Sunnis and Shiites. They are reporting what is going on, not just a telephone conversation between two AQ members.....

The point of me listing the 04 articles was to show you that people saw this coming. Then the articles to show that it is here.

Man...you deny it to the end.

Anyway...an intelligent person, who is not in some outrageous state of denial, could read these articles, then do a google search of their own and undersand that Iraq is indeed in the middle of a civil war. Or, you could just cover your ears and say "la la la la la" and think happy thoughts.

Good luck in life.

[Mikkamakka]

Hey guys, don't you have enough threads in the Jungle to attack each other?

It seems like they don't. 

[Izzy]

I have never heard of any left wing nut jobs that were anti gay, black, whatever...

Stalin was planning to exterminate Jews in 1953...he died before he could do anything about it.

Lenin and Stalin persecuted the orthodox church and all Soviet leaders tried to suppress Islam

Communist leader Pol Pot killed anyone that wore glasses......because they wore glasses

Just off the top of my head....

[Rain]

I have never heard of any left wing nut jobs that were anti gay, black, whatever...

Stalin was planning to exterminate Jews in 1953...he died before he could do anything about it.

Lenin and Stalin persecuted the orthodox church and all Soviet leaders tried to suppress Islam

Communist leader Pol Pot killed anyone that wore glasses......because they wore glasses

Just off the top of my head....

I guess he was talking about an American context but I may be wrong ! 

[SLCPUNK]

I have never heard of any left wing nut jobs that were anti gay, black, whatever...

Stalin was planning to exterminate Jews in 1953...he died before he could do anything about it.

Lenin and Stalin persecuted the orthodox church and all Soviet leaders tried to suppress Islam

Communist leader Pol Pot killed anyone that wore glasses......because they wore glasses

Just off the top of my head....

I guess he was talking about an American context but I may be wrong ! 

You were not wrong....

[Axls Locomotive]

anyone who thinks that if someone is part of a group of people then they wont have a specific attitude is just deluding themselves...left wing right wing, who cares..if youre a bigot your a bigot and it doesnt matter what group you belong to (other than bigots/non bigots of course)

[Guns N RockMusic]

I have never heard of any left wing nut jobs that were anti gay, black, whatever...

Stalin was planning to exterminate Jews in 1953...he died before he could do anything about it.

Lenin and Stalin persecuted the orthodox church and all Soviet leaders tried to suppress Islam

Communist leader Pol Pot killed anyone that wore glasses......because they wore glasses

Just off the top of my head....

I guess he was talking about an American context but I may be wrong !?

You were not wrong....

Ever hear of Senator Robert Byrd from West Virginia?  He was a former leader in the Ku Klux Klan. 

[SLCPUNK]

The exception, not the rule.

Like I said, I have never met a liberal, that was a bigot.