Next American Tour?

[Chief]

how many dates should it be?  im thinking a mix of big theaters and arenas myself...
approximately 30 shows to start off with.


discuss:

[mikegiuliana]

I don't know how many.. I think they should do a kind of test tour where they book 10-15 shows to see how it goes, to make sure axl makes the gigs.. If all goes good with attendance and no riots or problems hit as many states as possible, and if they are really big hit certain arenas twice (ie msg). I think whoever sponsors the tour is taking a big risk that is why the mini tour should happen first..

[nesquick]

They should Tour the world first (Europe, south america, japan, asia) and then later, tour in the US.
They should first play in Europe. arenas/stadiums gigs.

[Sillything]

A secret gig in my apartment would be nice

[Izzy]

They should first play in Europe. arenas/stadiums gigs.

They were selling about 7,000 tickets a show - saying they should play stadiums is laughable. Maybe when the second album arrives.....

[jameslofton29]

Mike is absolutely right. A mini tour has to take place before there is any mention of a world tour. Maybe something like the 'Here Today..Gone To Hell' tour of 1991. Just a few shows to generate buzz for something bigger, and it would be like live rehearsals for the band. But personally, I dont think a world tour is even feasible. No one is gonna back it, and if they did, they will gasp at what the insurance costs are gonna be. Plus the last tour wasn't a huge sellout. Promoters will not be lining up for GNR. Too much risk, not enough reward. Instead of a large world tour, GNR might have to do several mini tours in each part of the globe they wish to perform in.

[spuddy1]

Simple really release a killer single and then follow that up with a great album, Then do a tour.

[kyrie]

Mike is absolutely right. A mini tour has to take place before there is any mention of a world tour. Maybe something like the 'Here Today..Gone To Hell' tour of 1991. Just a few shows to generate buzz for something bigger, and it would be like live rehearsals for the band. But personally, I dont think a world tour is even feasible. No one is gonna back it, and if they did, they will gasp at what the insurance costs are gonna be. Plus the last tour wasn't a huge sellout. Promoters will not be lining up for GNR. Too much risk, not enough reward. Instead of a large world tour, GNR might have to do several mini tours in each part of the globe they wish to perform in.

World tour is easy - the band will draw 30,000+ a night in most parts of the world. Asia, South America, and places in Europe, no problem. It's America where the mini-tour is needed. A true 30-date WORLD tour could look like this:

Asia/Europe:

Hong Kong (warm-up gig)

Tokyo, Japan
Osaka, Japan (they can draw good crowds here)

Belgium
Germany
France
Spain
Netherlands
UK

some other european nations (maybe some festivals? RIR?)

North America:

New York
Boston
Los Angles
Dallas
Toronto
London (Ontario, Canada)
Albany
Edmonton/Calgary (or both)
Tampa Bay (or somewhere in Florida)
Los Vegas
Cleveland

Detroit
Philly

And maybe one or two others. Iffy on Philly and Motown since the last shows there were fucked, but they had a sellout in Philly and a 2nd night had they showed up. 10-12 shows would be good.

Hit South America. Brazil, Chile, Argentina. Where ever else... and then back to North America, do some more shows building off the first ones, and then some more European dates, maybe Australia, and you've got a tour.

None of this 40 shows in places like Buttfuck Mississipi... not when you've been without an album for over a decade.

[badapple81]

Don't forget Australia 

[ckgent]

i think axl should arrange for a special show for those at this website. He contacts Jarmo gets a list of those who are registered up until today and its invite to these people only. The gig takes place a week before the new album comes out. There is no support act, we get an exclusive playback of the album instead. Gn'r then play 2hrs of mixed old and new stuff. There will be one off tshirts and programmes available to purchase limited to one per person.

It has to take place in la though just to add that quality touch.

I wish..............

[SINSHINE]

i think axl should arrange for a special show for those at this website. He contacts Jarmo gets a list of those who are registered up until today and its invite to these people only. The gig takes place a week before the new album comes out. There is no support act, we get an exclusive playback of the album instead. Gn'r then play 2hrs of mixed old and new stuff. There will be one off tshirts and programmes available to purchase limited to one per person.

It has to take place in la though just to add that quality touch.

I wish..............

LOL...I like this idea! I would hold it in N.Y. though 

[Carlos_f_Rose]

As I have been telling you guys, if they are gonna play in Latin America, Guns N Roses should definitevily, play in Bolivia, because its the centre of the continent, and as I explained you before, I think thousands of GNR fans, from the whole continent are going there, if would be an amazing experince, a  50.000 stadium,  or even more, with latin american fans from everywhere,  Bolivia, Argentina, Chile, Brazil, Peru, Ecuador, colombia, and more, all Gathered to see the greatest  frontman of all times, Axl Rose...

well At least that is my dream...


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[Mateoson]

Well whatever they end up doing, I really hope they don't tour until after the album comes out. I think it would be a big mistake. The crowds won't be very big, and Axl will be pissed.... again. They've gotta be smart enough to know this. Nobody knows this band and they really need some music the have created, not just covers of the old band... just my opinion.

[dave-gnfnr2k]

They should first play in Europe. arenas/stadiums gigs.

They were selling about 7,000 tickets a show - saying they should play stadiums is laughable. Maybe when the second album arrives.....

No they weren't. In Europe they were playing in front of a lot of people. People in Europe, Asia, SA and Australia gnr could play stadiums easily.? As for the US they played in front of more than 7000 on a lot of venues sure some of the small cities they played in front of 7000 but that was for a tour with no new album and no promotion.

If gnr released CD, played RIR5, put a song on DVC sound track and played in Europe and Asia first, then played the US at the end of 2006 they could sell out arenas easily.

As for gnr playing clubs like VR that would piss a lot of fans off. Sure it would be awesome for the few fans that could see it but tix would be like $60-100 bucks and no  a lot of people could go. Areans are fine even if the low end if 9-10k people since everyone that want to see them that wanted to. Places like boston, ny and philly would sell out no  matter what, they should just not play in those places like Idaho where the tix wont sell. Just be smart where they play.

[Carlos_f_Rose]

Do you honestly think they would sell out arenas in USA man? Iam as all of you a real gnr fan, but  most of the people respect Slash, and the fact he isnt "IN"anymore, takes a lot of Gnr fans away, I didnt know they only had about 7000 persons, in the north american tours, that is a pitty dude, incredible figures, and unconceveible for a band that used to gather about 70.000 in their home country...    You know the entity, brings all the forces together... axl and slash...

[madagas]

If a frog had wings, he wouldn't bump his ass a hoppin'! ? Gnr averaged 8600 per night on the 16 date Us tour in 2002.

[nesquick]

Carlos, back in 2002 there was no promotion, nothing to promote; no new album, nothing. There was a poor media coverage, a poor promotion. Plus, the image of the new band was catastrophic (because of 2 guys, robin and buckethead), especially for the old fans. But things have changed. First Buckethead is gone, the band is more credible now. Then Robin changed. two problems fixed. When people will watch the band next time, they won't see the cold robotic shredder and the ex-MM wanabee onstage, but a cohesive bunch of guys who Rock together. Something more human, more "real".? Also, the Greatest Hits put GN'R in the hype again, 6 million copies worldwide with a ?few promotion, man this is great! the GTA-San Andreas thing helps Axl to be "cool" again for the youngest, and what is good for Axl is good for GN'R. Plus, Rock music is popular now. Rock comes back. The environement is better for Rock music.

Believe me, the band has much more potencial to hit the general public now than in 2002. GN'R can definitely sell out a couple of stadiums in Europe or South America. To tell you the truth, this is the best line-up since 1993. YES the fact Slash isn't in the band anymore will affect everything, album sales, ticket sales, popularity, everything. The man is a legend. but if the music is good, the new band can be very popular.

[jarmo]

Today it seems like bands who play stadiums are bands with a following and not just necessarily a hit album.

Here in Sweden Iron Maiden played in front of about 50000 people in Gothenburg.

AC/DC has played the same stadium.

Those two bands aren't exactly known for their recent hits.

But the promoters know they have a huge following and make the shows into these big happenings where everybody wants to be. Even people who aren't fans.




/jarmo

[RichardNixon]

I think everyone from America is huge in oversees. I bet right-said-Fred could play infront of 100,000 people. Yes, I know Maiden are from the UK

[jarmo]

I think everyone from America is huge in oversees. I bet right-said-Fred could play infront of 100,000 people. Yes, I know Maiden are from the UK

No, look at most of your current American "rock" bands. 




/jarmo