"Whites Only" alive and well in Alabama

[Kitano]

Kitano, only a racist or racist sympathizer would want to hear both side of this arguement.?

If the white hood fits......

You're a waste of my time.

For the record my mother is Puerto Rican and my father is Jewish, I'm not exactly the white hood wearing type.

My fathers family suffered greatly because people believed everything they were told and didn't question.  All i'm doing in this thread is asking questions.

[Surfrider]

Kitano, only a racist or racist sympathizer would want to hear both side of this arguement.? It's wrong no matter how you look at it.

An allegation has been made and I would like to hear the response.? You are onbviously lacking in critical thinking skills, you believe whatever you're told.? It's not going to be a help to you in your life.

If what they say happened is true then they have been gravely wronged.? I'd like to see some proof outside of an unsubstantiated allegation before i condemn anyone.

How can you not want to here both sides of an allegation in a lawsuit?? You know how many frilvolous suits get filed nowadays?? How can you guys call Kitano a racists for wanting to hear both sides, but then saying if it is true that it was horrible?

This coming from someone from Purdue, one of most prestigious universities in the world. ? Although I am still yet to figure out how Purdue is one of the most prestigious universities in the world when it is number 3 in the small state of Indiana.

[Genesis]

I'd like to see some proof outside of an unsubstantiated allegation before i condemn anyone.

As far as this article goes, guilty until proven innocent. 

[gilld1]

Wow, news to me, I didn't realize that Jews and Puerto Ricans were immune to being racist.  Why would I want to hear the other side of this arguement?  If it were some employee's versoin of a joke and the company did little to stop it then they are liable.  If the company did this by some oversight, it's their fault.  There is no excuse for this, none.

Berkley, you show your ignorance in your post.  I am not saying that all Purdue programs are in the elite but several are.  IU?   Maybe better recognized because of their hillbilly icon, Bob Knight.  Notre Dame?  I am not talking about football, it's academics, and even if it were football we kicked their asses last year.   When Nano technology takes root you all will be thanking the Boilers.  If you don't know, now ya know.

[Kitano]

Wow, news to me, I didn't realize that Jews and Puerto Ricans were immune to being racist.? Why would I want to hear the other side of this arguement?? If it were some employee's versoin of a joke and the company did little to stop it then they are liable.? If the company did this by some oversight, it's their fault.? There is no excuse for this, none.

Berkley, you show your ignorance in your post.? I am not saying that all Purdue programs are in the elite but several are.? IU?? ?Maybe better recognized because of their hillbilly icon, Bob Knight.? Notre Dame?? I am not talking about football, it's academics, and even if it were football we kicked their asses last year.? ?When Nano technology takes root you all will be thanking the Boilers.? If you don't know, now ya know.

He made a KKK reference towards me.  I just brought up my parents to show how offensive and inaccuarate his insult was.

[Sterlingdog]

I can't believe I'm doing this, but I have to agree with Kitano. 

The lawsuit ALLEGES that there was a whites only sign and a padlock.  It hasn't been proven.  Maybe they have evidence, like photos etc, but unless I'm mistaken, that information isn't available to anyone on this board. 

As a white supervisor of quite a few black people, I've had the term "racist" hurled at me more than once.  But just because someone says it, doesn't make it true. 

[SLCPUNK]

You have 12 people claiming there was a sign up and a locked door to keep them out. The lawyers involved are not ambulance chasers, they are a well respected group:

"The Lawyers? Committee is an over forty-year old nonpartisan, nonprofit civil rights legal organization, formed in 1963 at the request of President John F. Kennedy to provide legal services to address racial discrimination. "

With that in mind, I am more apt to believe this happened. I may be too hard on Kitano, but I think 12 people making this claim and the type of legal group that is involved point to one thing.

Saying "Big business wouldn't let this happen" is not living in reality. Big business doesn't give a ratt's ass about anybody and have proven that over and over. Walmart has locked their employees inside the store to get them to work off the clock. Big companies take out life insurance policies on their older workers to collect when they die and then use it as a tax write off.

So.... If some factory manager is a redneck hick who hates blacks and thinks nobody is going to stand up for themselves, I wouldn't doubt for a second he'd do this.

[Sterlingdog]

I think its entirely possible, and even likely that it happened.  But I also think its important to keep your mind open to the idea that these people MIGHT be making it up. 

[Genesis]

But I also think its important to keep your mind open to the idea that these people MIGHT be making it up. 

I don't think anyone would make up such a serious charge, especially since it's something that can be substantiated.

[Kitano]

But I also think its important to keep your mind open to the idea that these people MIGHT be making it up.?

I don't think anyone would make up such a serious charge, especially since it's something that can be substantiated.

A guy I used to work with was accused of rape by a chick who wanted to get money from him.  It really is sad but people will lie about anything if there is a chance of getting money.

If it is true then they deserve whatever money they get.

[Walk]

#1. Racist is often inappropriately used as an insult. I like white women and French food more than the rest. There's nothing wrong with this. I don't care what people think about it.

#2. This country is going to hell if we can't grow thicker skin and accept the natural order of things. Groups have conflicts between each other; this is normal. Get over it. Lawsuits are expensive and wasteful. It's even possible the whole event is fabricated or blown out of proportion for the $uit.

#3. Business owners have sovereignty over the workers. If the workers don't like it, they can leave or be escorted out. It's their choice.

[Dr. Blutarsky]

 If this indeed happened it is an absolute embarassment that this could still happen in America.

On the flip side....if this has been fabricated, playing the race card can get you a long way.

[SLCPUNK]

I believe Walk must be a computer program that just spits out random posts per thread......

No rational human would type anything like that.....

[Tied-Up]

I don't think this legal organization would fetter itself with a lawsuit that was unfounded.  Sure... lawyers do  impose frivolous lawsuits all the time... However this is a NONPROFIT legal organization, in other words, they get nothing out of putting the squeeze on Tyson except for the feeling of knowing they're exposing racism and helping the victims of that racism.

#1. Racist is often inappropriately used as an insult. I like white women and French food more than the rest. There's nothing wrong with this. I don't care what people think about it.

This is a little different than stating one's personal preferences... This is unfairly denying one group of employees a benefit that is available to another group based only on skin color.  I'm not excusing your bigotry, but I am suggesting that this is just a little more extreme.

[Walk]

This is a little different than stating one's personal preferences... This is unfairly denying one group of employees a benefit that is available to another group based only on skin color.  I'm not excusing your bigotry, but I am suggesting that this is just a little more extreme.

The employer makes the rules, not the employee. The employees don't tell the employer what's fair and what isn't. It's their duty to obey and accept their treatment.

Race is far, far more than "skin color", by the way.

[badapple81]

This is a little different than stating one's personal preferences... This is unfairly denying one group of employees a benefit that is available to another group based only on skin color.? I'm not excusing your bigotry, but I am suggesting that this is just a little more extreme.

The employer makes the rules, not the employee. The employees don't tell the employer what's fair and what isn't. It's their duty to obey and accept their treatment.

Race is far, far more than "skin color", by the way.

And their "treatment" is simply inhumane. I don't know about the US, but thankfully in Australia we have laws and anti discriminations acts, so employees don't have to put up with that crap. Employers make the rules sure, but the line is drawn when the rules involve discrimination on the base of race. That is simply disgraceful.

[SLCPUNK]

This is a little different than stating one's personal preferences... This is unfairly denying one group of employees a benefit that is available to another group based only on skin color.  I'm not excusing your bigotry, but I am suggesting that this is just a little more extreme.

The employer makes the rules, not the employee. The employees don't tell the employer what's fair and what isn't. It's their duty to obey and accept their treatment.

Race is far, far more than "skin color", by the way.

[Walk]

And their "treatment" is simply inhumane. I don't know about the US, but thankfully in Australia we have laws and anti discriminations acts, so employees don't have to put up with that crap. Employers make the rules sure, but the line is drawn when the rules involve discrimination on the base of race. That is simply disgraceful.

Look at the bigger picture. It's the government telling a free market business what's good for it. Race isn't the issue here. The issue is respect for a private business handling private matters how it wants to and government getting in the way of it. If the workers can't agree with the employer, they can just leave; that's it. However, they're using the government's clout to impose their views. This isn't what government is designed for. Somewhere here, tax dollars are being wasted...

[SLCPUNK]

And their "treatment" is simply inhumane. I don't know about the US, but thankfully in Australia we have laws and anti discriminations acts, so employees don't have to put up with that crap. Employers make the rules sure, but the line is drawn when the rules involve discrimination on the base of race. That is simply disgraceful.

Look at the bigger picture. It's the government telling a free market business what's good for it. Race isn't the issue here. The issue is respect for a private business handling private matters how it wants to and government getting in the way of it. If the workers can't agree with the employer, they can just leave; that's it. However, they're using the government's clout to impose their views. This isn't what government is designed for. Somewhere here, tax dollars are being wasted...

No it is not you idiot.

It is the government upholding the Civil Rights Act of 1964 which was handed down by the Supreme Court.



Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 prohibits discrimination in many more aspects of the employment relationship. It applies to most employers engaged in interstate commerce with more than 15 employees, labor organizations, and employment agencies. The Act prohibits discrimination based on race, color, religion, sex or national origin. Sex includes pregnancy, childbirth or related medical conditions. It makes it illegal for employers to discriminate in hiring, discharging, compensation, or terms, conditions, and privileges of employment. Employment agencies may not discriminate when hiring or referring applicants. Labor Organizations are also prohibited from basing membership or union classifications on race, color, religion, sex, or national origin.

[Jamie]

And their "treatment" is simply inhumane. I don't know about the US, but thankfully in Australia we have laws and anti discriminations acts, so employees don't have to put up with that crap. Employers make the rules sure, but the line is drawn when the rules involve discrimination on the base of race. That is simply disgraceful.

Look at the bigger picture. It's the government telling a free market business what's good for it. Race isn't the issue here. The issue is respect for a private business handling private matters how it wants to and government getting in the way of it. If the workers can't agree with the employer, they can just leave; that's it. However, they're using the government's clout to impose their views. This isn't what government is designed for. Somewhere here, tax dollars are being wasted...

How the hell would you feel if you were working for a black employer in a business with black employees in majority and you were not allowed use the same toilet facilities and canteen because you had white skin? That treatment is completely unacceptable and should not be inflicted on/accepted by any human being. I think human life comes before "what's good for the company".