Dizzy Reed Article (3 CD's Worth Of Material)

[Mikkamakka]

Geffen/Interscope would force a release

it pays to be very good friends with Merck doesnt it?


Isnt it logical to think that the reason Axl isnt releasing yet is because he isnt ready? By him releasing an album, doing promo, and probably a tour would mean he would have to be committed to doing something that big. you people take for granted that Axl wants the spotlight again. He might not. His actions show that he is quite comfortable with his situation.

hes making a lot of material, getting to "perfect" it or see it through, not much pressure from the label all while remainng in the shadows. maybe he doesant want attention at this point in time. Maybe hes waiting for everything to be "right" {whatever that may be} then he will proceede.

I think the record company would be a little pissed off if Axl told them that he didn't want the spotlight again. After like 13 millions. It's another story if he could handle the pains of touring and such a commitment like showing up.

[michaelvincent]

Isnt it logical to think that the reason Axl isnt releasing yet is because he isnt ready?

When exactly is 'ready'? It has been said time and time again by musicians the world over that nothing is ever finished in the truest sense of the word. It's what keeps you going for that next album, that next opportunity to better yourself.

Axl has had plenty of time to get ready. If he didn't want the spotlight again he never would have put a new band together, showed up at RIR, showed up on the VMA's, done a tour with the new band, talked to Rolling Stone, or every mentioned anything to the public about his new material. He could have just hung out in his home studio writing songs until the day he died without ever being in the spolight again.

If you are going to talk something up to the press (especially something like a new GnR album with all new guys) then you are ready for the spotlight whether you want to be or not.

[younggunner]

I think the record company would be a little pissed off if Axl told them that he didn't want the spotlight again. After like 13 millions.

All I said was at this point in time.

Axl has had plenty of time to get ready. If he didn't want the spotlight again he never would have put a new band together, showed up at RIR, showed up on the VMA's, done a tour with the new band, talked to Rolling Stone, or every mentioned anything to the public about his new material. He could have just hung out in his home studio writing songs until the day he died without ever being in the spolight again.

he needs a band to help him make some music doesnt he? And it also tells me that he wants to be out there again...whent though is the ?

[jarmo]

Has anybody thought of the idea that Axl has complete control over what new material gets released?

Meaning, Geffen can't force him to release something he's not happy with?



/jarmo

[sandman]

Has anybody thought of the idea that Axl has complete control over what new material gets released?

Meaning, Geffen can't force him to release something he's not happy with?



/jarmo

i think it's safe to say that most of your die-hard members on this board have thought of every scenario.

but do you honestly believe this is true....that axl owes geffen nothing?

[Neemo]

Has anybody thought of the idea that Axl has complete control over what new material gets released?

Meaning, Geffen can't force him to release something he's not happy with?



/jarmo

Yeah, I've thought of that, and I think Slash Duff and Izzy have always forced Axl before to release stuff. Wasn't it said somewhere that Axl wasn't done with illusions when they decided to release them?

And I've also thought, that, with all those guys gone now Axl may just tinker with the "current" recordings forever.

[jarmo]

Has anybody thought of the idea that Axl has complete control over what new material gets released?

Meaning, Geffen can't force him to release something he's not happy with?



/jarmo

i think it's safe to say that most of your die-hard members on this board have thought of every scenario.

but do you honestly believe this is true....that axl owes geffen nothing?

I didn't say that.

I said that maybe he has complete control over what new material is released.

There's a slight difference.


"Greatest Hits" was old material and they couldn't stop Geffen from releasing that. But are you 100% sure Axl can't keep working on his new material until he considers it to be done and Geffen has to wait?



/jarmo

[jabba2]

Yeah, I've thought of that, and I think Slash Duff and Izzy have always forced Axl before to release stuff. Wasn't it said somewhere that Axl wasn't done with illusions when they decided to release them?

And I've also thought, that, with all those guys gone now Axl may just tinker with the "current" recordings forever.

Axl himself said this, but the rest of the band thought the illusions were overdone. Izzy didnt even record some of the songs he wrote because he hated the glossy production that was being added to them. And Axl wanted to add even more production/sound effects. The downside of not waiting is it probably would have been stripped down had Axl waited and saw Nirvana and PJ a year later.

[sandman]

Has anybody thought of the idea that Axl has complete control over what new material gets released?

Meaning, Geffen can't force him to release something he's not happy with?



/jarmo

i think it's safe to say that most of your die-hard members on this board have thought of every scenario.

but do you honestly believe this is true....that axl owes geffen nothing?

I didn't say that.

I said that maybe he has complete control over what new material is released.

There's a slight difference.


"Greatest Hits" was old material and they couldn't stop Geffen from releasing that. But are you 100% sure Axl can't keep working on his new material until he considers it to be done and Geffen has to wait?



/jarmo

you didn't say it exactly....but it IS implied. because what if axl is NEVER happy with his material. then he would NEVER release it. which means he wouldn't give geffen anything.

you're saying he may have complete control which means he has the option of never delivering.

i would guess that although there may not be a specific dealine, that he does in fact owe them SOMETHING.

you didn't answer my question, but i am assuming you disagree?

[ppbebe]

"but things are on hold for now. (Rose is) working hard to finish our first record in quite awhile."

Maybe he's been polishing off the words till they glitter.

Rumour has it that The record is currently being sequenced.

[jarmo]

you're saying he may have complete control which means he has the option of never delivering.

No, I said maybe he can decide when the album is done and ready for release instead of the record company.

If his record contract says "X amount of albums with new material", he probably has to deliver those albums. But if there's no time frame in the contract, they can't force him to release a new album every five years.



/jarmo

[fesxine]

Axl is doing the best he can do and if thats going to be an album full of blues/madagscar quality songs then good on him. I am sure the record company have heard the material he has recorded and are probably very happy.

and as for us, don't they say that good things come to those who wait?

[SLCPUNK]

yes it is.

NOVEMBER !!! 

of 2011!

Yeah!

 

[AxlsMainMan]

you're saying he may have complete control which means he has the option of never delivering.

No, I said maybe he can decide when the album is done and ready for release instead of the record company.

If his record contract says "X amount of albums with new material", he probably has to deliver those albums. But if there's no time frame in the contract, they can't force him to release a new album every five years.



/jarmo

All we really know is that last February/March, Interscope paid their tab as far as studio costs go concerning this project, and went on to add it is now entirely Mr. Rose's resposibility to finance it further if needed. I think Jarmo's scenario is very likely, or maybe they just think so much bad shit has happened to GnR in the past few years, if you give the man his space he'll deliver....big time.

[dave-gnfnr2k]

Well to all the people that  bash me and the others about the three albums of material thing. All I have to say is told ya so.

Lets hope the plan is still to release all three over the next few years.

[Drew]

Blah...Blah....Blah. More talk and no official news from the one who counts. It's either a bandmate, or a Manager, or a friend, or a fan.

It doesn't matter if Axl has 100 albums worth of work.

[badapple81]

Well to all the people that? bash me and the others about the three albums of material thing. All I have to say is told ya so.

Lets hope the plan is still to release all three over the next few years.

Exactly, they all said it was bullshit.

[The New Fiona Apple]

Three Cds don't mean much if we haven't listened to it yet.

[Nytunz]

you're saying he may have complete control which means he has the option of never delivering.

No, I said maybe he can decide when the album is done and ready for release instead of the record company.

If his record contract says "X amount of albums with new material", he probably has to deliver those albums. But if there's no time frame in the contract, they can't force him to release a new album every five years.



/jarmo

yeah, i remember Tool said in a interview that they dident have any contract with a timeframe for delivering albums, and in that way, they dont have any pressure on themselvs to release new stuff when they aint ready. I would guess Guns N Roses have the same... I think that its more important to deliver some quality records, than a bunch of bla bla bla... repeat repeat repeat!..

[badapple81]

I can only imagine how particular Axl is with perfection, especially considering as he is now sole-producer isn't he?