Socialism

[Skeba]

About as much as the people I was reffering to, ie Walk. Who had made, what I felt, several insulting racist views made on the board. I wrote this after reading them and still feel this way.

Then I think the best way to reply then would be to argue his racist views in the thread (or the point in thread that they're in), not make witty 2-6 word replies that really don't add anything, and are only to stir shit up.

[Where is Hassan Nasrallah ?]

About as much as the people I was reffering to, ie Walk. Who had made, what I felt, several insulting racist views made on the board. I wrote this after reading them and still feel this way.

Then I think the best way to reply then would be to argue his racist views in the thread (or the point in thread that they're in), not make witty 2-6 word replies that really don't add anything, and are only to stir shit up.

yeah you've ruined my nice socialism thread !!!!
i kid i kid.

[Skeba]

Socialism.. in general, I think is a really nice thought. But since there will always.. and I mean _always_ be people who abuse the system, it'll never work (at least not in the foreseeable future). Sharing and working together for a common goal, helping the weak... they're all nice things. But to get the whole planet or a country fully behind that idea is pretty far from happening. There will always be people thinking they shouldn't be responsible for other people's lives.

[Guns N RockMusic]

Socialism.. in general, I think is a really nice thought. But since there will always.. and I mean _always_ be people who abuse the system, it'll never work (at least not in the foreseeable future). Sharing and working together for a common goal, helping the weak... they're all nice things. But to get the whole planet or a country fully behind that idea is pretty far from happening. There will always be people thinking they shouldn't be responsible for other people's lives.

I'm one of them.  I'm more than glad to lend a helping hand to an aquaintance or friend when they need it, but I'm only responsible for myself and my own actions.

[Dr. Blutarsky]

I am not willing to bust my ass everyday if the guy who sits around and does nothing will make the same thing.

[Where is Hassan Nasrallah ?]

I am not willing to bust my ass everyday if the guy who sits around and does nothing will make the same thing.

what about your friend ? would you help your best friend ? would you work for your mom ? let's say your mom just sits all day and watch porn, would you work and buy food for her ? i guess yes.

so, just look at the world as your biiiiiggg family.

[SLCPUNK]

Socialism.. in general, I think is a really nice thought. But since there will always.. and I mean _always_ be people who abuse the system, it'll never work (at least not in the foreseeable future). Sharing and working together for a common goal, helping the weak... they're all nice things. But to get the whole planet or a country fully behind that idea is pretty far from happening. There will always be people thinking they shouldn't be responsible for other people's lives.

I'm one of them.  I'm more than glad to lend a helping hand to an aquaintance or friend when they need it, but I'm only responsible for myself and my own actions.

You must hate paying taxes then.....

[Dr. Blutarsky]

I am not willing to bust my ass everyday if the guy who sits around and does nothing will make the same thing.

what about your friend ? would you help your best friend ? would you work for your mom ? let's say your mom just sits all day and watch porn, would you work and buy food for her ? i guess yes.

so, just look at the world as your biiiiiggg family.

Honestly, what motivation would that give me to work hard? I can be like the others and sit around all day and get paid like the guy that works for a living. Everyone needs to take some responsibility for themselves. We don't live in the perfect capitalistic society, but socialism is not the answer to our problems.

[Guns N RockMusic]

Socialism.. in general, I think is a really nice thought. But since there will always.. and I mean _always_ be people who abuse the system, it'll never work (at least not in the foreseeable future). Sharing and working together for a common goal, helping the weak... they're all nice things. But to get the whole planet or a country fully behind that idea is pretty far from happening. There will always be people thinking they shouldn't be responsible for other people's lives.

I'm one of them.? I'm more than glad to lend a helping hand to an aquaintance or friend when they need it, but I'm only responsible for myself and my own actions.

You must hate paying taxes then.....

No, what could ever make you think that.

[Where is Hassan Nasrallah ?]

I am not willing to bust my ass everyday if the guy who sits around and does nothing will make the same thing.

what about your friend ? would you help your best friend ? would you work for your mom ? let's say your mom just sits all day and watch porn, would you work and buy food for her ? i guess yes.

so, just look at the world as your biiiiiggg family.

Honestly, what motivation would that give me to work hard? I can be like the others and sit around all day and get paid like the guy that works for a living. Everyone needs to take some responsibility for themselves. We don't live in the perfect capitalistic society, but socialism is not the answer to our problems.

motivation ?
what pleasure to work ? and create something ? then pleasure of helping someone ?
you see, people always go " hey, i wanna be a bum and get government funds and not work  .... " but they're talking shit.
working is good.
and a normal person would rather work a get paid let say 100 $, than not work and get 50$ for nothing.

socialism can work because inactivity is hell. and human being will always find it more attractive to work and be part of society than just being helped.

[sandman]

I am not willing to bust my ass everyday if the guy who sits around and does nothing will make the same thing.

what about your friend ? would you help your best friend ? would you work for your mom ? let's say your mom just sits all day and watch porn, would you work and buy food for her ? i guess yes.

so, just look at the world as your biiiiiggg family.

Honestly, what motivation would that give me to work hard? I can be like the others and sit around all day and get paid like the guy that works for a living. Everyone needs to take some responsibility for themselves. We don't live in the perfect capitalistic society, but socialism is not the answer to our problems.

motivation ?
what pleasure to work ? and create something ? then pleasure of helping someone ?
you see, people always go " hey, i wanna be a bum and get government funds and not work? .... " but they're talking shit.
working is good.
and a normal person would rather work a get paid let say 100 $, than not work and get 50$ for nothing.

socialism can work because inactivity is hell. and human being will always find it more attractive to work and be part of society than just being helped.

you think all the americans collecting their welfare checks would rather be working? i don't.

and just because you're not working does not mean you are inactive.

[Where is Hassan Nasrallah ?]

I am not willing to bust my ass everyday if the guy who sits around and does nothing will make the same thing.

what about your friend ? would you help your best friend ? would you work for your mom ? let's say your mom just sits all day and watch porn, would you work and buy food for her ? i guess yes.

so, just look at the world as your biiiiiggg family.

Honestly, what motivation would that give me to work hard? I can be like the others and sit around all day and get paid like the guy that works for a living. Everyone needs to take some responsibility for themselves. We don't live in the perfect capitalistic society, but socialism is not the answer to our problems.

motivation ?
what pleasure to work ? and create something ? then pleasure of helping someone ?
you see, people always go " hey, i wanna be a bum and get government funds and not work? .... " but they're talking shit.
working is good.
and a normal person would rather work a get paid let say 100 $, than not work and get 50$ for nothing.

socialism can work because inactivity is hell. and human being will always find it more attractive to work and be part of society than just being helped.

you think all the americans collecting their welfare checks would rather be working? i don't.

and just because you're not working does not mean you are inactive.

well if you wanna compare yourself with everybody, even lower than you, we're not going anywhere.
i say, try to do your best. don't complain. don't compare. help when you can. and socialism works. we just have aim high.

[Dr. Blutarsky]

Socialism seems like a nice idea on paper, but it really doesn't work.

Look at what happened to the Soviet Union.

[sandman]

you have to consider how all people will react under that system. and there are alot of lazy people out there (including myself).

[Where is Hassan Nasrallah ?]

you have to consider how all people will react under that system. and there are alot of lazy people out there (including myself).

at least you admit it

so you see in the end, it's not the system, it's the people: )

[Guns N RockMusic]

I am not willing to bust my ass everyday if the guy who sits around and does nothing will make the same thing.

what about your friend ? would you help your best friend ? would you work for your mom ? let's say your mom just sits all day and watch porn, would you work and buy food for her ? i guess yes.

so, just look at the world as your biiiiiggg family.

Honestly, what motivation would that give me to work hard? I can be like the others and sit around all day and get paid like the guy that works for a living. Everyone needs to take some responsibility for themselves. We don't live in the perfect capitalistic society, but socialism is not the answer to our problems.

motivation ?
what pleasure to work ? and create something ? then pleasure of helping someone ?
you see, people always go " hey, i wanna be a bum and get government funds and not work? .... " but they're talking shit.
working is good.
and a normal person would rather work a get paid let say 100 $, than not work and get 50$ for nothing.

socialism can work because inactivity is hell. and human being will always find it more attractive to work and be part of society than just being helped.

you think all the americans collecting their welfare checks would rather be working? i don't.

and just because you're not working does not mean you are inactive.

well if you wanna compare yourself with everybody, even lower than you, we're not going anywhere.
i say, try to do your best. don't complain. don't compare. help when you can. and socialism works. we just have aim high.

The only way socialism could work is under a fascist government. ?Case and point, China, Nazi Germany, USSR, N. Korea and Cuba just to name a few. ?There is no incentive to bust you balls and prosper when you know that paycheck is coming regardless of how hard and much you work - another reason why modern unions are not productive. ?With out the fear factor, people are going to leach off of the system because there is no hope for them to aspire to have made it. ?Socialism is touted by those who aren't succesful and powerful. ?Those that would be needed most to make it work (save a violent government over throw - then again the "elites" control the military and most of Europe has given up their personal right to firearms) won't oblige to such a system because it would not benefit them. ?Left wing politicians only do a lip service to socialist ideas because the poor and lazy have the same vote as the rich and hard working. ?Anyone in the middle class who has any aspirations to stay there or move up and has a basic understanding of history and economics won't support socialism. ?I've always found it amazing that leftist put so much stock in a man who was a complete failure in every other aspect of his life until he started writing (Karl Marx). ?How many times over do his ideas have to fail miserably before lefties give up on him? ?Haven't enough innocent people died in all the aftermath from socialist societies - they far out number the deaths caused by modern "American Imperialism".

[Where is Hassan Nasrallah ?]

...
wrong wrong and wrong
not that your system does not work. it sure *does*
but you are talking like that to appear strong and *cool*.

do you have a mom ? do you have a dad ? borthers ? sisters ?
do you do what your mom says ? when she says clean the table do you do it ?
when your mom says *give a candy to your sister* even if you bought them with YOUR hard earned money do you do it ?
*you can put the questions in past tense inf you want*

YES.

locally we are living socialism.
socialism is NATURAL. you were socialist when you were kid (if not, you were the fat ugly prick that everybody hated)
that is simple.

dont bring up exemple like china and nazi germany ... cause if you wanna base our reflection on real example, NO systems work. they're all rotten.
and in many ways the american system is as rotten as the chinese one.

i say socialism ,it's just a word,  give up all the pre judgements you have on history and world ecnomics.

i'm just saying that, people help each other locally ( a family, a neighboorhood, even you, yes even you)
and then we must extend that to a more global domain.

now that the world has gone global. i mean REALLY  global. we can't go on like that.

cause you sure are living in a dream if you think you gonna get P diddy's house and car. you won't. you're not going anywhere.

now that you've learned that the Stars you think you can reach are fake. we just gotta help the people that are left behind.

you would do it. you know. it's natural.
you're trapped in a house full of zombies with 2 old black ladies ... you FIND a weapon, do you get out of there by yourself or try to help the old ladies ?
cause from what i read, you're thinking * NAAAAGHH !! thse evvil black ladies just wanna leach off what i have and use it !! they're lazy !! they should have found this weapon before me  !? ahahah !!! i win !! *


just remember of your mother and daddy and family. how it was nice to help people


ahahaha let's all cry in joy !!!

* i think i ate too much monster munch *

[sandman]

you have to consider how all people will react under that system. and there are alot of lazy people out there (including myself).

at least you admit it

so you see in the end, it's not the system, it's the people: )

no, it's both. and i believe that that system would encourage more people to be lazy.

there would be little motivation.

just like i believe people on welfare have no motivation to work hard to get off welfare. and why should they? they're getting something for free....who would want to give that up?

[Where is Hassan Nasrallah ?]

just like i believe people on welfare have no motivation to work hard to get off welfare. and why should they? they're getting something for free....who would want to give that up?

well not everybody thinks like you ....