Socialism

[Rain]

No, because it wasn't the Europeans this time. Whatever Europeans do is bad, but if America gets involved it's good. Thank you Mr. O'Reilly.

That's a pretty good sum up of what has been said in here lately !

[Kitano]

I also think we MUST all help Africa.

Africa's problems began when europeans started meddling in their affairs and it's still going on.? If we want to help them then we need to stop treating them like children and let then be the authors of their own destinies.? It's the "father knows best", imperalistic mindset that says we should "fix" Africa.? It's a failed approach.? The countries in Africa that have gotten off the drug of foreign aid have been doing alot better.

is that what we should have done with iraq ?

Different situations require different solutions. 

[DeN]

yes the petrol is in irak. 

[POPmetal]

I also think we MUST all help Africa.

What can we do to help a country like Zimbabwe though?
If we send them money, Mugabe will embezzle it. That's not gonna help the people. In fact, it will hurt because he'll use it to establish even worse mechanisms of repression.
Mugabe is not going anywhere for a while. I think his quote after the last "election" was that he intends to rule until he was a 100.
He won't be voted out of office because he rigs the elections and intimidates dissent.
A popular revolt is even more impossible. People are terrified to go to a polling place and cast a vote against him, let alone to organize a revolutionary movement.
We can't negotiate with him or convince him to change because the man is in every way intransigent.

I would love to hear innovative new ideas about what we can do to help out the people of Zimbabwe ...

[Izzy]

By definition, socialism and communism lead to fachism.

 

U have no clue at all

[nesquick]

By definition, socialism and communism lead to fachism.

 

U have no clue at all

Right. Move on.

[Walk]

Fascism is the opposite of Communism. Communism sets forth the lowest common demominator as the ruler, has no class distinctions (read: everyone's poor and stupid!), and seeks worldwide worker unity. Fascism supports the cosmic order, aristocracy, naturalism, and national identity.

Socialism is what happens when capitalism is hijacked to nullify social darwinism. Any idiot who can shuffle papers who would starve in the free market can get a government job in socialism. In the long term, socialism weakens society and makes the people complacent.

[Where is Hassan Nasrallah ?]

facism HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH communism or socialism. these two are on the economic/social field.

facism/democracy is how free your people are.

you can have capitalist facism
you can have communist facism

walk, you sound like nietzche and i hope you're one of the strong / beautiful people (like i am  ) cause if you aren't, that would be really funny 

[Walk]

Nah, Nietzche wanted people favored for their natural merits, not their money grubbing ability.  Capitalism is much more generous than what nihilists have in mind. Of course, when (not if) natural resources get low, it's time to spill blood over them and "thin the herd." Society, over centuries, tends to swing from extreme liberalism, to moderate capitalism, to extreme fascism, and so forth. We're going to the liberalism now, but given gas prices, a swing to the right is in order.

I'm just too libertarian to be a hardcore fascist, so I'm conservative, whatever that means these days.

[SLCPUNK]

 so I'm conservative, whatever that means these days.

Racist jackoff?

[Walk]

If you want someone to compare me to, try Tolkien or CS Lewis, maybe. I see these guys as good role models.

[Sin Cut]

I also think we MUST all help Africa.

What can we do to help a country like Zimbabwe though?
If we send them money, Mugabe will embezzle it. That's not gonna help the people. In fact, it will hurt because he'll use it to establish even worse mechanisms of repression.
Mugabe is not going anywhere for a while. I think his quote after the last "election" was that he intends to rule until he was a 100.
He won't be voted out of office because he rigs the elections and intimidates dissent.
A popular revolt is even more impossible. People are terrified to go to a polling place and cast a vote against him, let alone to organize a revolutionary movement.
We can't negotiate with him or convince him to change because the man is in every way intransigent.

I would love to hear innovative new ideas about what we can do to help out the people of Zimbabwe ...

I heard he's got weapons of mass destruction...

[SLCPUNK]

I also think we MUST all help Africa.

I would love to hear innovative new ideas about what we can do to help out the people of Zimbabwe ...

I heard he's got weapons of mass destruction...

bah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



 

[Kitano]

 so I'm conservative, whatever that means these days.

Racist jackoff?

The mask slips.

[SLCPUNK]

I guess you've never read any of Walks posts...

He fits that profile rather well.

[Skeba]

 so I'm conservative, whatever that means these days.

Racist jackoff?

I was gone for a few days, so I didn't get a chance to read the board and I somewhat missed this thread.

SLC, could you tell me how this adds anything to the conversation? How is this any better than the insults that you remind other people of? I do share some of your opinions but things like these add _nothing_, and will most certainly not drive your point of view forward.

[Will]

We're going to the liberalism now, but given gas prices, a swing to the right is in order.

When you say we I suppose you're talking about the US. I know you like provocation but sometimes you really post funny shit. I mean, the US are gonna "swing" to the right because of gas prices?? WTF man, and isn't Bush a right wing republican? Or did you think he was a leftist? Even if he was, what a right wing government could do about gas prices?

[Rain]

The funny thing is that I've read Walk's posts and I didn't even react to that ...? I guess I'm becoming immunated or something ...?

[SLCPUNK]

 so I'm conservative, whatever that means these days.

Racist jackoff?

I was gone for a few days, so I didn't get a chance to read the board and I somewhat missed this thread.

SLC, could you tell me how this adds anything to the conversation? How is this any better than the insults that you remind other people of? I do share some of your opinions but things like these add _nothing_, and will most certainly not drive your point of view forward.

About as much as the people I was reffering to, ie Walk. Who had made, what I felt, several insulting racist views made on the board. I wrote this after reading them and still feel this way.

[SLCPUNK]

We're going to the liberalism now, but given gas prices, a swing to the right is in order.

When you say we I suppose you're talking about the US. I know you like provocation but sometimes you really post funny shit. I mean, the US are gonna "swing" to the right because of gas prices?? WTF man, and isn't Bush a right wing republican? Or did you think he was a leftist? Even if he was, what a right wing government could do about gas prices?

Why would anybody swing to the right, since the high gas prices came under right wing government? Driven by the war in Iraq? I just read an article that showed the highest increase of late credit card payments in history,  goes directly with the increase in gas prices. You think those late paying CC holders like Bush right now? They are being pinched financially because of his policies and they know it.

The right wing is making a killing off this...I mean the oil guys, uh...er....right wing...oil....the oil companies I mean...making record profits. It's all good dude, just have fun filling up your big American SUV!