Mercks "2005 - the year of GNR" statement

[Shoco]

2005 will not be the year of GNR even if its released tomorrow, were almost 3/4'sof the way through the year, all the big festivals are over

[Charity Case]

I think Axl is just waiting a little while longer so the song "14 Years" can assume dual meaning.   

The album has 0 chance of surfacing in 2005, and therefore 2005 has 0 chance of being the yaer of GNR.  I would say that 2006 is more likely, but then again I say that every year and every year I am wrong.  as far as Mewrck, I'm sure he actually thought this was the year at the time...just like all those time Dizzy or Tommy have said similar things regarding the timeline of CD. 

As for a mass exodus, it has happened to certain degree.  A ton of posters who used to be here a lot and who made up what made HTGTH great are gone or almost gone (meaning they hardly post anymore).  What is left are newer people and those that will hang on even if the album isn't released until 2025.  I used to post here a ton, but now I come to the main page to check the news, I check the foums for news, and post in the Jungle every other month or so to piss off slcpunk.  I used to come with anticipation, now it is more habit than anything.  I don't really expect any good news anymore.  Too bad too, because I really love IRS and think it is the best of his new stuff that we have heard so far.  It actually got me excited again fot this whole thing.

2006....maybe.

[dave-gnfnr2k]

As of right now no member of gnr that I am aware of have anything planned past oct 31st.  Fortus cancelled his Nena dates for Nov, Dizzy has nothing past that, I am not sure when Tommy is doing this two shows with soul asylum but its just two shows. So If this is going to be the year it will start in nov or dec.  If that is true we should hear something by mid oct at the latest.

[Shoco]

if it happenes in Nov/Dec, it will hardly be the year of GNR

[pilferk]

So, who now believes that Mercks infamous comment will prove to be true words? Or alternatively, did we read the comment the wrong way?

Is it possible that Merck was implying something else? It's hard to see that it meant anything other than a re-emergance of GNR in some capacity? - this year. Could he have been refering to the settling of the lawsuit that Axl is embroiled in, more saying that 2005 will see Axl unequivocally own the GNR name, hence 2005 being the year of GNR?

Whatever way you look at it, it's a big statement to make. Not that Merck hasn't made outlandish/grandiose statements on behalf of Uncle Axl before mind....? ?

Ummmm...I choose option "C".  What's option "C"? Glad you asked!

Option "C" goes something like this:

"Merck, when making the statment that 2005 was the year of GnR had every reason to believe it was true.  Every reason.  Turns out.....he was wrong.  And wrong not because of anything he did...not because of any misstep or action on his part."

Now, should the man be flogged for being wrong?  Nope. No fucking way.  Being wrong is part of the human condition.  And it's not like his being wrong has lead to any great tragedy, right?  Nobody died.  Nobody lost their home or their family.  Nobody has been caused terrible pain because of it.  The worst thing that happens is a bunch of people wait a little longer for the album (oh, and his character is besmirtched from pillar to post).

So, what's the big deal, again?

[Lesty]

I think a lot of people still check the board periodically for news and rumors, but from my point of view, there's just not a lot to talk about or discuss.
I've been optimistic of a CD release every fall since 2002, and of course, have been wrong.
I think the only way there will be a mass exodus is if Axl or someone officially announces that there is no album to release and currently no official members in GnR other than himself.
Although, that would probably just prompt reunion rumors for the next 5 years.
As long as there is hope for a new CD, then everyone will still be here.
We all have practiced a great deal of patience for this project. I doubt we'll give up on it now.

[WARose]

well  i won`t give up on this album. i`ll wait until i can hold it in my hands and i hope this will be soon....

this board is definitely the best gnr board out there, but it?s problem is not people leaving, but people like jameslofton who spread their negativity in every post and can`t stop complaining about everything they hear. chill people; we`ll get it at some point and bitching won`t change anything, but kill this board, because there aren`t that much people on here who want to hear this negativity over and over.

this is no offense jameslofton, but your negativity sucks and i`m not the only one who has this opinion.

[Rob]

I think you guys mistake being realistic and logical for being negative.

[WARose]

there?s a difference between being realistic and bitching in every post about how merck should be fired because of a comment he did in a splash interview and that there?s no release date in sight.

[Rob]

You may see it as bitching, I see it as keeping this place honest.  He's the voice of reason.

[pilferk]

You may see it as bitching, I see it as keeping this place honest.? He's the voice of reason.

Just a question, and I'm serious:

How does Merck deserve to be fired because he was, through absolutly no actions of his own, wrong?? I mean...he didn't lie, steal, or cheat, did he?

He was just wrong.? And wrong about something that, in the grand scheme of things, is pretty minor, right?

If a vendor told me we'd have a new version of software up by the end of September, and then failed to ship it on time....I'd file a "Wrongful Termination" lawsuit if my place of employment fired me!? I have nothing to do with it's production. I'm just the damn liason.  And if the vendor tells me nothing more, then I just relay what they've told me.  Same situation here, folks.

Firing Merck would be a classic case of "Killing the Messenger".

[33]

"Something should happen". "stay tuned". Thats funny! Somthing should've happened in 12 years, the same amount of time we have been staying tuned. I must be the only person that thinks Merck should've been fired over the 2005 comment. The only possible thing that could happen is an announcement for next year. There isn't a chance in hell that the album is coming out this year.

Honestly James sorry to keep on but why are you so fucking negative, just be patient please!!

[33]

Haven't you noticed that not as many people post anymore? The exodus has already started, but its just a trickle. The finale will occur in January.

This is probably a good thing cos it means that the neagtive mother fuckers who have bitched on this site for so long are not bothering anymore. I for one am chuffed to bits with this. Dont get me wrong I hope every day for an announcement on the album release date, but it upsets me so much to hear people being so negative about something none of know nothing about! We will no doubt know everything when the album comes out! What bugs me the most is the people who have come and gone on this site who dont really know jack about the band and only became fans in the last few years and they think they know it all and try and rip Axl and the new band to pieces. Thats why I sat fucking good riddance to them!

[ppbebe]

Ditto to the posts above!!!

No big deal.  if not this year, it's just +a few more extra months or years  after a decade(? )(for some /about a couple of years in my case ).

I feel quite comfy here talking away and studying about the band with my fellow fans
This place would be even cosier if the agitators could quit their self-contra-diction and their negative campaign.
I like hearing others different opinions and not those spiteful instigations.

The people actually concerned in this project are having much harder time, really.

[33]

Ditto to the posts above!!!

No big deal.? if not this year, it's just +a few more extra months or years? after a decade(? )(for some /about a couple of years in my case ).

I feel quite comfy here talking away and studying about the band with my fellow fans
This place would be even cosier if the agitators could quit their self-contra-diction and their negative campaign.
I like hearing others different opinions and not those spiteful instigations.

The people actually concerned in this project are having much harder time, really.

Cheers ppbebe! How ya doing? Always nice to see postive and thoughtful posts from you! Heres to a bright GnR future!! Whenever it may start!!

[Morley]

Not a negative campaign... but, I?m 30 years old now,? and I ain?t got a great music since ?93. I?m really tired to wait, I need this fuckin? album.

[Nytunz]

Ditto to the posts above!!!

No big deal.? if not this year, it's just +a few more extra months or years? after a decade(? )(for some /about a couple of years in my case ).

I feel quite comfy here talking away and studying about the band with my fellow fans
This place would be even cosier if the agitators could quit their self-contra-diction and their negative campaign.
I like hearing others different opinions and not those spiteful instigations.

The people actually concerned in this project are having much harder time, really.

Cheers ppbebe! How ya doing? Always nice to see postive and thoughtful posts from you! Heres to a bright GnR future!! Whenever it may start!!

ppbebe, i think she is the most wonderfull poster on the forum!!
 And i totaly agree with the quotes above!

[33]

Not a negative campaign... but, I?m 30 years old now,? and I ain?t got a great music since ?93. I?m really tired to wait, I need this fuckin? album.

I know its frustrating mate, but you have gotta stay postive. I am 29 so like you I have been a fan since day 1 of the Guns n Roses roller coaster! And even though it gets really hard waiting sometimes for the new album, I will always stay positive and be ready for the release day!! ?Its just so hard reading so many peoples childish negative shit for so long!

[33]

Ditto to the posts above!!!

No big deal.? if not this year, it's just +a few more extra months or years? after a decade(? )(for some /about a couple of years in my case ).

I feel quite comfy here talking away and studying about the band with my fellow fans
This place would be even cosier if the agitators could quit their self-contra-diction and their negative campaign.
I like hearing others different opinions and not those spiteful instigations.

The people actually concerned in this project are having much harder time, really.

Cheers ppbebe! How ya doing? Always nice to see postive and thoughtful posts from you! Heres to a bright GnR future!! Whenever it may start!!

ppbebe, i think she is the most wonderfull poster on the forum!!
 And i totaly agree with the quotes above!

Nytunz I have to say that I agree with you about ppbebe, and also you are also one of the most positive posters on this site as well! I just think that all the positive guns fans there are on this site will be so much more satisfied when the album comes out because none of us have ever spoke bad shit about Axl or the new band members! Take it easy!

[Nytunz]

Ditto to the posts above!!!

No big deal.? if not this year, it's just +a few more extra months or years? after a decade(? )(for some /about a couple of years in my case ).

I feel quite comfy here talking away and studying about the band with my fellow fans
This place would be even cosier if the agitators could quit their self-contra-diction and their negative campaign.
I like hearing others different opinions and not those spiteful instigations.

The people actually concerned in this project are having much harder time, really.

Cheers ppbebe! How ya doing? Always nice to see postive and thoughtful posts from you! Heres to a bright GnR future!! Whenever it may start!!

ppbebe, i think she is the most wonderfull poster on the forum!!
 And i totaly agree with the quotes above!

Nytunz I have to say that I agree with you about ppbebe, and also you are also one of the most positive posters on this site as well! I just think that all the positive guns fans there are on this site will be so much more satisfied when the album comes out because none of us have ever spoke bad shit about Axl or the new band members! Take it easy!

Thank you! And Copy that! 
im a fan of your posts to! And to keep the spirit up. It will  alow us to cry of luck when CD finally is in our hands!
At least this is a MUCH more positive forum then mygnrfourm !