Mercks "2005 - the year of GNR" statement

[jimmythegent]

So, who now believes that Mercks infamous comment will prove to be true words? Or alternatively, did we read the comment the wrong way?

Is it possible that Merck was implying something else? It's hard to see that it meant anything other than a re-emergance of GNR in some capacity  - this year. Could he have been refering to the settling of the lawsuit that Axl is embroiled in, more saying that 2005 will see Axl unequivocally own the GNR name, hence 2005 being the year of GNR?

Whatever way you look at it, it's a big statement to make. Not that Merck hasn't made outlandish/grandiose statements on behalf of Uncle Axl before mind....   

[killingvector]

Something should happen. Stay tuned.

[jimmythegent]

Something should happen. Stay tuned.

what would you be refering to there. If you could tell me I would appreciate it.

[jameslofton29]

"Something should happen". "stay tuned". Thats funny! Somthing should've happened in 12 years, the same amount of time we have been staying tuned. I must be the only person that thinks Merck should've been fired over the 2005 comment. The only possible thing that could happen is an announcement for next year. There isn't a chance in hell that the album is coming out this year.

[jimmythegent]

I agree, Im sure Merck has some exceptional skill that can be utilised, but if CD doesnt see the light of day in 05, Merck and more specifically Uncle Axl, have yet again, let down the fans

So no one thinks the statement was refering to the lawsuits? Any other theories on what he could have meant?

[jameslofton29]

I think Merck sincerely meant that CD was gonna come out. But unfortunately, he was wrong. I wonder why? I wonder who could have possibly steered him in the wrong direction? If Axl wont make a statement about CD near year's end, then Merck is gonna have to say something to the GNR fanbase. Because when Jan. 2006 comes with no news, there is gonna be alot of pissed off people.

[jimmythegent]

I think Merck sincerely meant that CD was gonna come out. But unfortunately, he was wrong. I wonder why? I wonder who could have possibly steered him in the wrong direction? If Axl wont make a statement about CD near year's end, then Merck is gonna have to say something to the GNR fanbase. Because when Jan. 2006 comes with no news, there is gonna be alot of pissed off people.

Are we approaching a point where GNR forum users are going to exit en masse?

We've proven we're a resiliant bunch if nothing else - I mean I honestly thought it was over for good when good ol' Uncle Axl issued his last statement (the infamous "Bucketheads left and yeah, again heres a convinient scapegoat to blame everything on") especially given he stated they hope to announce a release date in the next couple of months.  What was particularly hilarious were the debates that ensued as to what constituted a "couple"

[jameslofton29]

Good post, Jimmy! We are definitely reaching the point of a mass exodus from the forums. A few months ago, I predicted that it would happen in Jan. 2006 when everyone realized that there isn't any news, and there's no prospect for news. Haven't you noticed that not as many people post anymore? The exodus has already started, but its just a trickle. The finale will occur in January.

[jimmythegent]

I think people are going to stick around and see this thing out to the bitter end. The main problem is, peoples hopes can only be dashed so many times.

Realistically, how many "soon is not the word" and "taking it to the next level" statements can a fan of a rock band take?? Worse still, are the "dive and in and find the monkey/burning hills" style bizarro, freak statements that confuse and alienate the fans.

I guess, for me personally it's a matter of closure.

However, that doesnt mean I enjoy being taken for granted and lied to as a fan?

[killingvector]

"Something should happen". "stay tuned". Thats funny! Somthing should've happened in 12 years, the same amount of time we have been staying tuned. I must be the only person that thinks Merck should've been fired over the 2005 comment. The only possible thing that could happen is an announcement for next year. There isn't a chance in hell that the album is coming out this year.

I would suggest you stop complaining about the delays and understand that this is out of our hands. If it is released, so be it. But bitching about something that has no effect on you on a daily basis is pointless. If you are truly worried about this year, you should read up on the lawsuit scheduled for trial this november. That likely will have a tremendous impact on a 2005 statement of release for Chinese Democracy.

[jimmythegent]

"Something should happen". "stay tuned". Thats funny! Somthing should've happened in 12 years, the same amount of time we have been staying tuned. I must be the only person that thinks Merck should've been fired over the 2005 comment. The only possible thing that could happen is an announcement for next year. There isn't a chance in hell that the album is coming out this year.

I would suggest you stop complaining about the delays and understand that this is out of our hands. If it is released, so be it. But bitching about something that has no effect on you on a daily basis is pointless. If you are truly worried about this year, you should read up on the lawsuit scheduled for trial this november. That likely will have a tremendous impact on a 2005 statement of release for Chinese Democracy.

calm down man
this thread aint meant to be about bitching or hostility

the main point was to see if :
a) we believe Mercks comments and will see CD released this year

or

b) we somehow misinterpreted the comment and he meant something else entirely.

[dave-gnfnr2k]

IF the album does drop in Nov or Dec then he will be right. 

[jimmythegent]

IF the album does drop in Nov or Dec then he will be right.?

so youre hopeful of an '05 release Dave?

[dave-gnfnr2k]

IF the album does drop in Nov or Dec then he will be right.?

so youre hopeful of an '05 release Dave?

I don't hope for anything. The album comes out when it comes out. I am not going to lose sleep over no relase date like some of the bashers they keep bitching about it.

[killingvector]

"Something should happen". "stay tuned". Thats funny! Somthing should've happened in 12 years, the same amount of time we have been staying tuned. I must be the only person that thinks Merck should've been fired over the 2005 comment. The only possible thing that could happen is an announcement for next year. There isn't a chance in hell that the album is coming out this year.

I would suggest you stop complaining about the delays and understand that this is out of our hands. If it is released, so be it. But bitching about something that has no effect on you on a daily basis is pointless. If you are truly worried about this year, you should read up on the lawsuit scheduled for trial this november. That likely will have a tremendous impact on a 2005 statement of release for Chinese Democracy.

calm down man
this thread aint meant to be about bitching or hostility

the main point was to see if :
a) we believe Mercks comments and will see CD released this year

or

b) we somehow misinterpreted the comment and he meant something else entirely.

i'm perfectly calm. Jameslofton seems to be agitated every day that passes without a statement

[-Jack-]

I'd be surprised if people started to leave in mass.. part of me actually believes more people will leave the forum once the album comes out, than if it didn't show up for another 2 years. Just as a "Ok we got Chinese Democracy.. lets just enjoy it.. go to some kick ass GN'R concerts... we can leave heretodaygonetohell.com just for a little while" kinda thing.

Actually.. who am I kidding.. when Chinese Democracy comes out im gonna crack off some fire works and type in super large red bold font "CHINESE DEMOCRACY STARTS NOW!" and I believe the rest of the forum will do the same... so I don't see anyone leaving, although 90% of our forum topics are speculation.. and I don't know what we would talk about if it actually WAS out. Heh...

2010 Chinese Democracy II starts NOW! I already one billion % know someone is gonna mess up our fun on the album release date with a "When do you think the next album is gonna come out?" thread.

And when Merck said his 2005 comment he ment it was supposed to come out in 05. If he ment anything eles and he trys to pull some bs move like "Oh I didn't mean THAT" then he should get kicked in the face.. lol. I mean did he actually think we wouldn't assume it ment C.D. was coming!?

Personally.. although it may sound crazy, I have hope for a December release. I know.. laugh all ya want...

     - jack

[jarmo]

I must be the only person that thinks Merck should've been fired over the 2005 comment.

I hope you are.


Even if the album was released tomorrow, you'd find something else to complain about. Maybe the good old "why is he using the GN'R name?"....



/jarmo

[Jim Bob]

it may be late for 2005.. but i guess you never know.  we can't say until jan 1.

as for merck sayin what he said, he was either speaking for axl rose, or possibly tryin to put the pressure on him to release it this year.  maybe other things came up, we dont know.   it could be a million fuckin things, and gnr fans should know this by now.

[GypsySoul]

Wow!!!? Within a week, Merck makes the cover of Billboard mag AND gets maligned for GNR not delivering CD so far in 2005.? Talk about emotional rollercoaster rides!?

In Merck's defense, he understands how these things just can't be rushed:

quote
MM:? Our job is to provide an environment for the artist to be able to make their best record.? And then for their best work to have the time and the attention that it needs put into it in order for it to be a success.
end quote

CD will be an environmental masterpiece!?

[Genesis]

And then for their best work to have the time and the attention that it needs put into it in order for it to be a success.

Axl must have a very short attention span..