People seem to bash finck and his playing, and talk about gnr without a lead

[nesquick]

Robin should just be more Rock n' Roll, and, even if he will never be slash, at least he will be less bashed in the futur.
GN'R is neither NIN nor MM, Ministry or slipknot. The style is completely different, the audience is totally different, the fans want to hear completely different music that what he used to play in NIN, so he'd better adapt to the GN'R situation and be...yeah...more "Rock n' Roll". Tommy and Richard understood that, they played the way the GN'R music should be played, and I never heard people bashing them or complaining about them. Even better, most of people (even the Old Fans) seem satisfied. You see, it's not that complicated not to be a weirdo. Stay simple.
The ball is into Robin's hands.

[Neemo]

Robin should just be more Rock n' Roll, and, even if he will never be slash, at least he will be less bashed in the futur.
GN'R is neither NIN nor MM, Ministry or slipknot. The style is completely different, the audience is totally different, the fans want to hear completely different music that what he used to play in NIN, so he'd better adapt to the GN'R situation and be...yeah...more "Rock n' Roll". Tommy and Richard understood that, they played the way the GN'R music should be played, and I never heard people bashing them or complaining about them. Even better, most of people (even the Old Fans) seem satisfied. You see, it's not that complicated not to be a weirdo. Stay simple.
The ball is into Robin's hands.

Are you talking about his appearance? Cuz i could care less what he looks like (and i am an "old fan"   )(although his garb was out of place, hell even Pittman dressed in a jean jacket and ripped jeans with a mullet in toronto). I just felt that the songs didn't need to be changed and the way he played them was different to how they should sound. Whether that is his "style" or "Sound" or what-the-fuck-ever. Don't take awesome, perfect songs and change them, When I go to see Guns n' Roses, I want to hear Guns n' fuckin' Roses songs done the way i know them, I don't want the "For Finck's Sakes" mix ya know? I don't think that is an unreasonable request. I mean Robin's been in GnR for how long? since '97? he should be able to play any gnr song in the dark with his eyes closed and the guitar strung upside down by now, and it should still sound identical to the cd when he plays it. shouldn't it? I mean that should be part of his "job", to play the old stuff perfectly. I never bash Richard and Tommy cuz they didn't fuck up the old songs (or change things, whatever)

That being said toronto 2002 was probably still the best concert i have ever seen. and if they come around again I'm goin'.

[chineseblues]

Robin should just be more Rock n' Roll, and, even if he will never be slash, at least he will be less bashed in the futur.
GN'R is neither NIN nor MM, Ministry or slipknot. The style is completely different, the audience is totally different, the fans want to hear completely different music that what he used to play in NIN, so he'd better adapt to the GN'R situation and be...yeah...more "Rock n' Roll". Tommy and Richard understood that, they played the way the GN'R music should be played, and I never heard people bashing them or complaining about them. Even better, most of people (even the Old Fans) seem satisfied. You see, it's not that complicated not to be a weirdo. Stay simple.
The ball is into Robin's hands.

Why the hell does appearance mean so much to you? I mean come on you can't be that shallow can you? This bashing Robin because he doesn't fit you're preception of what rock n roll is, is bogus. Learn to think outside the box and don't get roped into bullshit sterotypes. 

[C0ma]

I don't know if this was already brought up, because i didn't have the energy to read this whole thread.

It's not a case of robin missing notes......... I know Slash used to miss parts and generally play the wrong notes here and there in solo's. But my issue with Robin is alot of the Old Solo's are being played in a different key from the rest of the song. That is not a case of him adding his own touch to the solo and seperating himself from Slash, that is him skipping the musical theory section of his guitar lessons... when soloing over something you tend to try and do it in the same key as the piece you are soloing over, anything other than that is just plain wrong....... I think that is acctually the reason why Izzy's amp got shut off (see Boston 02 Rant)

[PhillyRiot]

That's a fine point JARMO but on the flip side Robin signed a deal to be in a tour where for him it would be basically doing GNR covers (minus a few new songs).  Until CD is released there is really nothing to judge him on.  So far, his riffs in the new songs are decent, but are they as memorable as the ones in Paradise City, WTTJ, SCOM, YCBM etc, I don't think so!  But who knows?  Mabey if CD were to see the light of day Robin can prove me wrong.  Hell, I hope so.  As far as how Robin plays the old material, that is pointless to me. 

[AxlsMainMan]

and Axl isn't going to bring just any shmuck off the street into Guns N' Fuckin Roses.

Uh, he brought Paul Huge in...

  Dude, I was watching RIR3 for the first time in about a year today and that guy was a total waste of stagespace. Axl stands amazed before Mr.Huge as he can amazingly strum an open chord during Chinese Democray.

[killingvector]

That's a fine point JARMO but on the flip side Robin signed a deal to be in a tour where for him it would be basically doing GNR covers (minus a few new songs).  Until CD is released there is really nothing to judge him on.  So far, his riffs in the new songs are decent, but are they as memorable as the ones in Paradise City, WTTJ, SCOM, YCBM etc, I don't think so!  But who knows?  Mabey if CD were to see the light of day Robin can prove me wrong.  Hell, I hope so.  As far as how Robin plays the old material, that is pointless to me. 

Buckethead used the opportunity to shine. I really thought he was a fine successor to Slash.

[ppbebe]

. and honestly, songs like Rocket Queen, Mr brownstone, Nightrain, Live and let Die... those songs all sound better.   

Since I heard the new versions, I have come to have better opinions of those tunes. To be fair, that's not the case with Paradise city, SCOM or WTTJ.

Robins guitar is original. No one can play like him. 
His "sloppiness" can be both his strong point and the weak point.
"Sloppy "
it sounds as if it reflects the singer's inner feeling the words can't describe, which is delicate and complicated.

Like yagami said,

Robin doesn't play like Slash. But IMO he has a great vibe and he can play with axl vocals easy(I mean he is on the same page as Axl's voice.)

IMO Slashs guitar is now too rough n overbearing for the Chinese Democratic GN'R.

[Falcon]

and Axl isn't going to bring just any shmuck off the street into Guns N' Fuckin Roses.

Uh, he brought Paul Huge in...

  Dude, I was watching RIR3 for the first time in about a year today and that guy was a total waste of stagespace. Axl stands amazed before Mr.Huge as he can amazingly strum an open chord during Chinese Democray.

For sure, no offense to Paul but he's the living definition of "shmuck off the street ".

[Mysteron]

Anybody who isn't Slash and plays lead guitar in GN'R will be bashed.

If Jimi Hendrix was alive and played for GN'R, he would get bashed because he didn't play the November Rain solo like Slash did.

If Axl had gotten, let's say Zakk Wylde, the same thing would've happened too.




/jarmo

Agreed

Finck is a decent and humble human being and is also a very talented guitarist

[dave-gnfnr2k]

Robin did an awesome job with sossego. For all we know he was bored with playing the old gnr songs. Yes he screwed up the blues solo near the end sometimes but most times he always played the new songs riffs and solos very well.

[nesquick]

Sossego was great.

[PhillyRiot]

Any guitarists minus besides Slash probably will get ripped by the masses.  That is because Slash's guitar and Axl's singing were such a powerful combination.  Their previous work will be really hard to top.

[Mr. Dick Purple]

I haven't hear a lot of fink but he sounds quite great for GNR even though he came from NIN (I don't like too much the industrial music), but he can make GNR to take a new direction (in a good way), I hope that Brian May one day joins stage with GNR now that would be blast 

[cbeier78]

  slash,slash,slash   thats what everone is bitchin about....really.they are just mad he is out.  but after all the lawsuits and backstabbin shit.....i dont want him back. i love his work,but FUCK slash.  no matter what happens,everyone will always bitch about this band.  WELL I WANT THIS BAND.  and you fuckin haters all wonder why we get no updates and shit....TAKE A GUESS DUMBFUCKS.  its because of all the so called fans doubting all AXLS decisions.  it doesnt matter ....if axl made a press release saying the old band was gettin back together, THEN ALL THE HATERS WOULD BITCH THAT THEY NEVER GOT TO HEAR THE NEW GUYS.   JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP AND LEAVE IF U DONT LIKE THIS BAND. WE DONT WANT YOU HERE ANYWAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  axl makes all the decisions....so fucking deal with it.  HE IS THE MUSICAL GENIOUS, I TRUST HIS DECISION.  IF YOU PEOPLE ARE SO BRILLIANT AT KNOWING MUSIC ....WHY HAVENT I HEARD YOUR STUFF??FUCK ALL THE HATERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[killingvector]

I don't care about Slash; personally, the loss of Bucket affected me more.

[WARose]

I don't care about Slash; personally, the loss of Bucket affected me more.

agreed.

Robin Finck RUles!!

[ppbebe]

I don't care about Slash; personally, the loss of Bucket affected me more.

agreed.

Robin Finck RUles!!

Same here. "sloppy  "
BGM IRS ah....ah with the robin solo (yay, Robin Finck rules!! )

[dave-gnfnr2k]

I don't care about Slash; personally, the loss of Bucket affected me more.

I agree Bh was? ahuge loss but if he says on the? album which it seems he is, then ill be happy

Here is robin playing sossego at rio. I think he kicks ass on it. IF he can play like this all the time then gnr will be fine.
Plus he is singing at the same time something he is not used to besides backing vocals.

http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=37YGUUTSO4MXA1YQ394XVTZQQI

[Nytunz]

I don't care about Slash; personally, the loss of Bucket affected me more.

I agree Bh was? ahuge loss but if he says on the? album which it seems he is, then ill be happy

Here is robin playing sossego at rio. I think he kicks ass on it. IF he can play like this all the time then gnr will be fine.
Plus he is singing at the same time something he is not used to besides backing vocals.

http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=37YGUUTSO4MXA1YQ394XVTZQQI

Yeah! Love the song! Robin sure is great! And im happy he is still hanging in there! Im sure he has contrbuted alot in the writing process!
 Take IRS! He plays with so much feeling! Like Slash did, but in another way! Bend it like Robin!!