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« Reply #100 on: September 13, 2005, 02:32:35 PM »

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Most of the softcore fans simply think that they broke up, others think that they aren't doing anything. Some know that Axl carries on the GN'R name.
Bullshit. The majority of rock fans know the gnr situation in terms of whos not in the band and that Axl has decided to keep the name.

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Why did Axl promote the 2002 'Chinese Democracy World Tour' as 'Eight years later they are back'? Who they? Axl? Or Axl and Dizzy?? ?No, it meant Guns N' Roses.
Because it seems at the time, the plan was to continue that tour with the release of CD. Listen to what Axl says at the vmas. As it turned out it was stupid for them to call it the CD tour because they didnt have an album outr and they never released 1 during that tour. So as it turns out it was a dumb thing to do. As was most of the planning was for that tour. As I have said countless times.

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-Why did Axl keep the name?
Do you really want to beat a dead horse?
Axl has kept the name because he feels GNR isnt over. One era is complete. A new one is waiting in the wings
We won't agree on the first thing, but that's it.

In my first question I asked who 'They' they were referring to? Not their plans about an album.

My second question wasn't a dead horse since I didn't say 'he should have retired the name'. I asked why he didn't do that. But as I translate your answer I think you meant that in Axl's mind he was and he is Guns N' Roses. But I think it's not that simple.
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« Reply #101 on: September 13, 2005, 03:03:30 PM »

My second question wasn't a dead horse since I didn't say 'he should have retired the name'. I asked why he didn't do that.

But as far as I remember, Axl has commented on it and you just don't want to acknowledge that.

Asked whether he ever considered going under his own name instead of keeping the Guns N` Roses tag, Rose says; ''It is something I lived by before these guys were in it. And there were other people in Guns N` Roses before them, you know. I contemplated letting go of that, but it doesn't feel right in any way. I am not the person who chose to try to kill it and walk away.''

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« Reply #102 on: September 13, 2005, 03:10:48 PM »

I for one don't care what the band calls itself as far as not "Axl Rose (ex GN'R) solo".

But I think this is the best name for the band of today even more than old days. the name Guns n roses shows what the band is. The hard and the soft, the oldies and the latest, the beauty and the beast or whatever extremes meet @ Guns n' Roses and make uncanny harmony.

Can you think of a better name for such a band?
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« Reply #103 on: September 13, 2005, 03:19:58 PM »

Can you think of a better name for such a band?

The Steven Adler All Stars??? 
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« Reply #104 on: September 13, 2005, 03:47:20 PM »

There are some great posts in this thread regarding why Axl should continue with his vision. Unfortunately the most lucid comments are lost amid the petty bickering from the usual suspects.

I just wanted to give a nice  ok to those that believe in this project. I really believe those who wish Axl would let go of the name are the ones having the most trouble moving on.
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« Reply #105 on: September 13, 2005, 08:14:47 PM »

The David Lee Roth scenario is the most likely if Axl had went solo, but he could have possibly had a John Fogerty type career. John has released several solo albums over the years, with some decent songs. Some even went Top 40. Although his albums didn't sell as well as they did when he was in CCR, he completed many successful tours. Instead of fading into obsurity, he kept his career going and stayed relevant over the years. He also takes many years to complete albums, and the albums always please his core fanbase.
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« Reply #106 on: September 13, 2005, 11:04:01 PM »

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I asked why he didn't do that. But as I translate your answer I think you meant that in Axl's mind he was and he is Guns N' Roses.
kinda sorta. I think that he feels GNr hasnt ended and he wasnt the one who left. He feels that there is more to be heard from GNR under that name.

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The David Lee Roth scenario is the most likely if Axl had went solo, but he could have possibly had a John Fogerty type career. John has released several solo albums over the years, with some decent songs. Some even went Top 40. Although his albums didn't sell as well as they did when he was in CCR, he completed many successful tours. Instead of fading into obsurity, he kept his career going and stayed relevant over the years. He also takes many years to complete albums, and the albums always please his core fanbase.
Not really. iF DLR or JF went MIA for a decade then we can compare.

This isnt an ordinary solo album.
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« Reply #107 on: September 14, 2005, 09:26:35 PM »

The David Lee Roth scenario is the most likely if Axl had went solo, but he could have possibly had a John Fogerty type career. John has released several solo albums over the years, with some decent songs. Some even went Top 40. Although his albums didn't sell as well as they did when he was in CCR, he completed many successful tours. Instead of fading into obsurity, he kept his career going and stayed relevant over the years. He also takes many years to complete albums, and the albums always please his core fanbase.

Axl could definately have a very successful solo career..... I think of it kinda like the Ozzy and Sabbath situation.
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« Reply #108 on: September 14, 2005, 10:50:44 PM »

whats the difference bwteen a "solo" career and what hes doing now?
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« Reply #109 on: September 14, 2005, 10:53:51 PM »

I don't know.

Concerning Chinese Democracy, I wouldn't be surprised if it sells 1 million copies the 1st week in the US. But 400-500k may be more realistic. You know, when the MSG is sold out within 15 minutes, it means you are still very popular. And with the Greatest Hits success, GN'R is twice more popular now than in 2002, meaning the sales have much more potencials now than in 2002. I'm sure CD will do great on charts and could be a worldwide phenomenon. It can't fail with songs as great as The blues and Madagascar...that's impossible. The feedback will be glorious.
No question a gnr album would do great now.. Even without the singles being known..

So how do you think the difference in billing would affect album sales..?? I think 800k is possible, but that depends on the promotion... To me the buzz of a new long awaited gnr album alone with no singles yet would bring in several 100 thousands..

axl rose vs gnr's long awaited album..


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« Reply #110 on: September 15, 2005, 04:38:30 AM »

whats the difference bwteen a "solo" career and what hes doing now?

whats he's doing is guns n roses.  its not a solo career.
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