long awaited gnr album vs axl rose album

[mikegiuliana]

question about sales


How do you think a new album (cd) billed as a long awaited gnr album would do vs an axl rose album alone?

What would be the difference in opening week sales??

I say an axl rose only album without the name sells about 250,000-300,000.. Long awaited gnr album sells about 450,000-500,000 opening week..

and yes we all know axl is gnr but just give me your opinions on how the two would differ in sales with the same exact person behind the band..

it could go like david lee roth solo from van halen or great like ozzy minus black sabbath..

[nesquick]

I don't know.

Concerning Chinese Democracy, I wouldn't be surprised if it sells 800-900K the 1st week in the US. But 400-500k may be more realistic. You know, when the MSG is sold out within 15 minutes, it means you are still very popular. And with the Greatest Hits success, GN'R is twice more popular now than in 2002, meaning the sales have much more potencials now than in 2002. I'm sure CD will do great on charts and could be a worldwide phenomenon. It can't fail with songs as great as The blues and Madagascar...that's impossible. IRS also seems to be a killer Rock track...and it's not even in the Top 10! The feedback will be glorious.

I have a fantastic feeling concerning CD.

[mikegiuliana]

I don't know.

Concerning Chinese Democracy, I wouldn't be surprised if it sells 1 million copies the 1st week in the US. But 400-500k may be more realistic. You know, when the MSG is sold out within 15 minutes, it means you are still very popular. And with the Greatest Hits success, GN'R is twice more popular now than in 2002, meaning the sales have much more potencials now than in 2002. I'm sure CD will do great on charts and could be a worldwide phenomenon. It can't fail with songs as great as The blues and Madagascar...that's impossible. The feedback will be glorious.

No question a gnr album would do great now.. Even without the singles being known..

So how do you think the difference in billing would affect album sales..?? I think 800k is possible, but that depends on the promotion... To me the buzz of a new long awaited gnr album alone with no singles yet would bring in several 100 thousands..

axl rose vs gnr's long awaited album..

[nesquick]

Greatest Hits success + New York Times article + Q article + press mentions very often + VMA'02 (people still talk about it 3 years after) + 2002 European and US tour + RIR 3 + RIR 5 (let's hope) + the blues and madagascar + Axl in GTA-San andreas (and a GN'R soundtrack) + VR + all the mystery around the album over the years = a lot of Buzz---> high sales.

[Megaguns]

there will be that much hype when GnR finally announce a release date that it will sell huge, i expect records to be broken....

[mikegiuliana]

there will be that much hype when GnR finally announce a release date that it will sell huge, i expect records to be broken....

I'm sure it will sell a huge amount of album.. First album or original music since the illusions.. That is a very long time..

So how do you think a gnr album would sell compared to an axl rose solo album??

[nesquick]

So how do you think a gnr album would sell compared to an axl rose solo album??

nobody knows. that's not the case so I don't think people think about that

I think when the record is out, HTGH and MYGNR message boards will explode. I think Jarmo and the Mods will have a lot of work!
the MYGNR board exploded 3 times when IRS surfaced...3 times, for just one song!
The press will also talk a lot about Chinese Democracy. special issues will appear. It will be huge.

TOMMY described it very well: When the album is released, it will be "the chaos".
I think, exept U2, there won't be anything as big as GN'R once the album is out.

[Dust N Rose]

I don't believe an Axl Rose solo whould sell a lot. None of the former members in the past sold a lot with their solo efforts.

[mikegiuliana]

I don't believe an Axl Rose solo whould sell a lot. None of the former members in the past sold a lot with their solo efforts.

so then do you believe it's the gnr name that is carrying all the weight for wether the album fails or not? Also do you feel axl's album will get extra press because it has such a dinamic name to go with it.. Will the success come from what's on the album, or by the name on it..?

[Luigi]

I'd have to say the name Axl is Guns N Roses plus Chinese Democracy, your talking about the power house country, the leaders in manufactoring, the next Big thing. So Shoot, I think he'd sell  more or just as much just with his name, AXL ROSE ( CHINESE DEMOCRACY )    

[Megaguns]

An album under the name Axl Pose would not do as well as a GnR album, its an obvious answer so why ask anyway?

[Luigi]

But AXL ROSE would.

[mikegiuliana]

An album under the name Axl Pose would not do as well as a GnR album, its an obvious answer so why ask anyway?

I asked how you think it would do in comparison to a gnr album... Axl rose is gnr so I wanted to see how people felt.. He is gnr so his name axl rose should sell tons of albums..


give two opening week predictions,,,,?

[nesquick]

Axl rose is gnr

in juridic term, yes. in reality, No.

[Shoco]

under the GNR name it would do alot better sales wise, i mean everyone knows who GNR were, and that name carries alot more selling power than the name Axl Rose

taking myself for example, im only intrested in what axls doin cos he still carries the GNR name, if he didnt then i wouldnt be rushing out to buy his album, even if it was the same content, its just that the name GNR means sumtin to me

[mikegiuliana]

taking myself for example, im only intrested in what axls doin cos he still carries the GNR name, if he didnt then i wouldnt be rushing out to buy his album, even if it was the same content, its just that the name GNR means sumtin to me

so basically a loyalty to the gnr name and the idea of whatever has it's name on it seeing it do well?

I also have a desire to see anything with gnr on it do good, and I also like to collect gnr related stuff..

Axl rose album would definetly interest me because he did lead gnr my favorite band..
It's weird with me I buy very little new music.. I feel not as excited to buy an axl rose album these days.. I sit around more and think about how great gnr was and how many great years of touring and releasing albums axl has wasted... That's just me though, some are satisfied with waiting countless years..

[Shoco]

i would get the axl album at some stage, but i wouldnt rush out to do it

im just taking irealnd as an example, GH went straight to number 1 here for 7 weeks and then went back to number1 a few weeks later

a lot of my mates bought it cos they knew guns had a lot of good songs, but theres no way theyd have bought an axl rose album, it just wouldnt appeal to them

ppl that have solo stuff after been successful in a band never do aswell, even if the material is better

axl rose just isnt as big a pull to the general public as GNR

[mikegiuliana]

i would get the axl album at some stage, but i wouldnt rush out to do it

im just taking irealnd as an example, GH went straight to number 1 here for 7 weeks and then went back to number1 a few weeks later

a lot of my mates bought it cos they knew guns had a lot of good songs, but theres no way theyd have bought an axl rose album, it just wouldnt appeal to them

ppl that have solo stuff after been successful in a band never do aswell, even if the material is better

axl rose just isnt as big a pull to the general public as GNR

I hear you loud and clear man..

[jemin]

I think the general public would not support an Axl Rose solo album as much as a GNR album.  Based on the fact that alot of the general public still think of Axl as the tantrum throwing rock star from the early nineties.

[dENIS]

Greatest Hits success + New York Times article + Q article + press mentions very often + VMA'02 (people still talk about it 3 years after) + 2002 European and US tour + RIR 3 + RIR 5 (let's hope) + the blues and madagascar + Axl in GTA-San andreas (and a GN'R soundtrack) + VR + all the mystery around the album over the years = a lot of Buzz---> high sales.

Agree