question .If the name belong to the ex gunners

[mikegiuliana]

if the others owned the name and axl wasn't in the band would you still feel as strong by calling it gnr without axl?? I only want your opinions being there is bands like van halen that had sucess without the same lead singer..

I know it's hypothetical but I wanted some insight.. No matter who owns the name it is technically gnr but would you view it yourself as gnr regardless of who owned it or who was missing....?

Even if the ex gnr members owned it I would not want gnr to continue..

[dENIS]

No.

[gnrfan1797]

no way it's like the stone's without jagger

[mikegiuliana]

no way it's like the stone's without jagger

so as long as say plant is in zepplin you don't need page??

[rainX]

no way it's like the stone's without jagger

so as long as say plant is in zepplin you don't need page??

listen slash is amazing, but he's not fucking jimmy page.

to really answer this question, you have to look at from this standpoint: AXL ALWAYS WANTED TO KEEP GNR GOING. THE OLD MEMBERS LEFT THE BAND ONE BY ONE AND HE'S CONTINUED GOING, TRYING TO BUILD, THEN BEING FORCE TO REBUILD, the future of "GUNS N' ROSES", a name that obviously means more to Axl than you will ever understand, mike.

this isn't about a name, it's about an attitude and a way of life. Slash and Duff lost it when they left gnr, that's pretty clear from the music they've released. Let's wait and see before we decide whether or not axl should be using the name guns n' roses. but judging from the tracks we've heard, i say yes. and judging from VR, duff's solo works, snakepit, etc, i think no, slash and duff shouldn't be in a band called guns n' roses. funny though, cuz even though they are in this "mega" band now, i still always hear them on the radio say "Slash from guns n' roses"

[gnrfan1797]

no way it's like the stone's without jagger

so as long as say plant is in zepplin you don't need page??

gutair player's can be replaced i love page but look at what buckethead did he sound's great well sounded great

[ppbebe]

No. Jimmy Page was the frontman. Mr plant wasn't.

On topic,

I wouldn't mind.

I wouldn't care. I wouldn't care about that GN'R. I'd be fine with the old GN'R songs.

I wouldn't be at a GN'R board but at a board about Axl's new band whatever the name might be.

As far as the band makes kickass songs like IRS...

[mikegiuliana]

no way it's like the stone's without jagger

so as long as say plant is in zepplin you don't need page??

gutair player's can be replaced i love page but look at what buckethead did he sound's great well sounded great

the point wasn't can he be replaced. The point was does a band and it's members mean anything when keeping a name going?? No question in the past 20 years as a guitar player slash has been just about the best of his time and for every great gnr tune there is a great riff or solo behind it..

Is there any band out there that is sacred in regards to breaking up then continuing without the members..

Would it be the beatles if only paul was in the band?

this isn't about a name, it's about an attitude and a way of life. Slash and Duff lost it when they left gnr, that's pretty clear from the music they've released. Let's wait and see before we decide whether or not axl should be using the name guns n' roses. but judging from the tracks we've heard, i say yes. and judging from VR, duff's solo works, snakepit, etc, i think no, slash and duff shouldn't be in a band called guns n' roses. funny though, cuz even though they are in this "mega" band now, i still always hear them on the radio say "Slash from guns n' roses"

what way of life is that?? The no album no tours way of life.. The band members we know nothing in regards to progress way of life..?

I can say your personal musical opionions are just that.. Plwenty of people loved snakepit or contraband.. The question wasn't their post gnr work it was their role in the band and if they had the right to the name ..

When I say I feel the band needs their real members to be gnr I hear well axl owns the name so it is gnr.. So i said if axl didn't own the name and it continued would it still be gnr.??

You hear slash from gnr.. You're kidding right, one of the biggest rock bands ever and he's still called slash from gnr.. Who would have thought it..

we always hear paul from wings

[dave-gnfnr2k]

Axl was in guns n roses before slash and duff even joined. Its that simple.

[mikegiuliana]

Axl was in guns n roses before slash and duff even joined. Its that simple.

what does that mean?? You people all beat around the bush with no real answers.. Gnr that was signed and made afd is the people that made gnr.. Someone had to be in their first.. Gnr might had been hollywood rose and died out like most 80's bands..

I don't know why some people can't just answer the simple question??

[Scabbie]

No. Jimmy Page was the frontman. Mr plant wasn't.

I'm interested to know why you said this, although maybe outside of this thread!

[Chief]

no i wouldn't think of it as GNR.

i didn't know what to think with the new band but when i saw them it made me a believer and i think even though it isn't the original lineup anymore, to me they have the GNR spirit.

[mikegiuliana]

no i wouldn't think of it as GNR.

i didn't know what to think with the new band but when i saw them it made me a believer and i think even though it isn't the original lineup anymore, to me they have the GNR spirit.

i thought they were great live too.. I was just trying to take some board logic and see if it swung both ways..

For me it's not about the people you sign up later it's about the people that made the name a household name and made the great songs from the singing to the guitar playing to the drumming..

I wouldn't consider it gnr this way or that way but I still love axl so I have an interest..

Any band that has break ups has mixed feelings between the fans,,

[Nytunz]

This is always a problem! Always.. ! Even if Slash had the name, people would complaine. Its also very individual, people who like Slash the most, is against Axl keeping the name, and the other way... So, the best way, is actually to change the name if anyone leave the band. Spec. if its some of the bands brains..

[mikegiuliana]

This is always a problem! Always.. ! Even if Slash had the name, people would complaine. Its also very individual, people who like Slash the most, is against Axl keeping the name, and the other way... So, the best way, is actually to change the name if anyone leave the band. Spec. if its some of the bands brains..

I feel that way for more then slash... I just feel if you lose each player that made your record setting debut album you should have respect for the band and what it represented and continue to create but leave that name until that special day or let it rest forever.. That's just my view regardless of who owns it..

[younggunner]

Mike the thing you keep failing to grasp is that Axl is the lead singer. He attracted most of the attention back of the day. Of course Slash and company amde great music and deserve just as much credit. But Axl is more than just the music. He brings something else to the table. That is why there are passionate people here. On both sides of the fence. Axl is the talk. Whether its good or bad. Whethe ryou liek Slash or not. People defend Axl, people choose to rip into Axl. No1 here chooses to rip into Slash or defend him. Its more your with Axl or against.

As for the thread. Whether Axl was on the outside lookin in it would really matter. Just look at Vr. Who cares what its called. Vr is what GNr would have been without Axl. SOme descent stuff but nothing that puts it over the top. Thats whta Axl brings. Hes the intangible you need. As a poster has said...GNr is much more than a name to Axl. He was teh captain when it took off so he feels he should control the ship. He once said hes GNrs biggest fan.

If Axls intention were to ruin the gnr name or outdue the old band he would have released multiple albums by now. The guy just waits and waits. Until hes ready and feels that the material will represent the GNR  name well.

[jarmo]

It would depend on how the break up happened.

If Axl left or was fired and they found a new singer, sure they could call it GN'R.


But now they left/were fired...



/jarmo

[Bridge]

It would depend on how the break up happened.

If Axl left or was fired and they found a new singer, sure they could call it GN'R.

Personally I think it's irrelevant how the band breaks up.  If it isn't the original guys who made the band what it was, then it shouldn't be called GNR.  It doesn't matter if it's Axl Rose, or if it's Slash and Duff, or hell, if it's Izzy and Steven.

All the originals of any disbanded group should have enough respect for the fans not to tarnish the band's legacy by assuming control of the name without the others.

[Nytunz]

It would depend on how the break up happened.

If Axl left or was fired and they found a new singer, sure they could call it GN'R.


But now they left/were fired...



/jarmo

True.. Since Axl never left the band, he was left with the band name. And Dizzy, im pretty sure he is number two in the new linup. But like someone said earlier, Axl and Izzy was the two first members in GNR...

[Bridge]

True.. Since Axl never left the band, he was left with the band name. And Dizzy, im pretty sure he is number two in the new linup.

No, actually Axl owns the name and Dizzy is under contract to him, just like everyone else in Axl's band.  That's what Axl's January 1997 court stuff was all about, solely acquiring the GNR name.

But like someone said earlier, Axl and Izzy was the two first members in GNR...

And that isn't quite true....all five originals signed up to Geffen in 1986 and were given equal partnership in the name.  And the five of them created the music and defined the GNR name, therefore it became theirs.  Not Tracii Guns or anybody else's.