Does the 1-1-1 Las Vegas DVD exist?

[1987]

I'm not really sure if this has been aswered in another thread.. but i couldn't find it.. i remember some talk of someone having this and trying to trade it ect... has there ever been a clear answer if this is floating around or not? 

[cotis]

Nope, wasn't this. You may be (and probably are) thinking of the VMA 2002 rehearsals.

[wadey]

i once set up a trade for it but the trader backed out and decided he wasnt going to make it public yet. i saw a couple of screen shots and it seemed to be audience shot. it may or may not exist but a few members on here claim to have it.

[cotis]

i once set up a trade for it but the trader backed out and decided he wasnt going to make it public yet. i saw a couple of screen shots and it seemed to be audience shot. it may or may not exist but a few members on here claim to have it.

Do you have the screenshots or the name of the person who had it? I remember someone trying to sell copies but never provided proof -- likely a load of bullshit. Also said it had Madagascar studio track on it -- obviously a lie as it changed since 01/02 but still.

[wadey]

i once set up a trade for it but the trader backed out and decided he wasnt going to make it public yet. i saw a couple of screen shots and it seemed to be audience shot. it may or may not exist but a few members on here claim to have it.

Do you have the screenshots or the name of the person who had it? I remember someone trying to sell copies but never provided proof -- likely a load of bullshit. Also said it had Madagascar studio track on it -- obviously a lie as it changed since 01/02 but still.

i no longer have the screenshots unfortunatley. i shall be keeping the name of the trader to myself as not to cause any unrest within the forum and it could also affect any future trades. i am still very hopeful of getting my hands on it eventually 

[Ulises]

i once set up a trade for it but the trader backed out and decided he wasnt going to make it public yet. i saw a couple of screen shots and it seemed to be audience shot. it may or may not exist but a few members on here claim to have it.

Do you have the screenshots or the name of the person who had it? I remember someone trying to sell copies but never provided proof -- likely a load of bullshit. Also said it had Madagascar studio track on it -- obviously a lie as it changed since 01/02 but still.

i no longer have the screenshots unfortunatley. i shall be keeping the name of the trader to myself as not to cause any unrest within the forum and it could also affect any future trades. i am still very hopeful of getting my hands on it eventually 

So...is the same of nothing

[cotis]

i once set up a trade for it but the trader backed out and decided he wasnt going to make it public yet. i saw a couple of screen shots and it seemed to be audience shot. it may or may not exist but a few members on here claim to have it.

Do you have the screenshots or the name of the person who had it? I remember someone trying to sell copies but never provided proof -- likely a load of bullshit. Also said it had Madagascar studio track on it -- obviously a lie as it changed since 01/02 but still.

i no longer have the screenshots unfortunatley. i shall be keeping the name of the trader to myself as not to cause any unrest within the forum and it could also affect any future trades. i am still very hopeful of getting my hands on it eventually 

So...is the same of nothing

Likely same stuff that other people have come here and spread lies about.

People claim JohnM has it, but he doesn't.

It's the same story every few months! Someone claims to have it or 'know someone that does' and they 'work on a trade that falls apart'.

I'm willing to believe if something is proven to me, until then. Nope.

[wadey]

i once set up a trade for it but the trader backed out and decided he wasnt going to make it public yet. i saw a couple of screen shots and it seemed to be audience shot. it may or may not exist but a few members on here claim to have it.

Do you have the screenshots or the name of the person who had it? I remember someone trying to sell copies but never provided proof -- likely a load of bullshit. Also said it had Madagascar studio track on it -- obviously a lie as it changed since 01/02 but still.

i no longer have the screenshots unfortunatley. i shall be keeping the name of the trader to myself as not to cause any unrest within the forum and it could also affect any future trades. i am still very hopeful of getting my hands on it eventually 

So...is the same of nothing

Likely same stuff that other people have come here and spread lies about.

People claim JohnM has it, but he doesn't.

It's the same story every few months! Someone claims to have it or 'know someone that does' and they 'work on a trade that falls apart'.

I'm willing to believe if something is proven to me, until then. Nope.

Ive not been in contact with JohnM so i wouldnt know about his trades. the screenshots were saved on my old pc but when it crashed 12months ago it all got wiped and i upgraded. i was told by the trader they were from vegas but i cant confirm this myself. i have not seen all the footage from the 2002 shows so the stills could have been from the 2002 footage ive not seen yet.

i know ill get some stick for not naming the trader but i dont give a fuck to be honest. theres too many people argueing about shit and slagging other members off all the time. i'd rather not get involved in other peoples issues and concentrate on what i'm doing.

i agree that yes its the same old story etc etc but i just thought i would share my experiences

[cotis]

SS,DD.

[Layne Staley's Sunglasses]

SS,DD.

ROFLMAO.

[Mr. Redman]

Why would Wadley have to lie about anything? From what I've been able to tell about him, he's been honest.

How would you like it if he outed you for hoarding something or something to that effect?

[wadey]

Why would Wadley have to lie about anything? From what I've been able to tell about him, he's been honest.

How would you like it if he outed you for hoarding something or something to that effect?

cheers mate

i have no reason to lie and no reason to cause shit and play people off against each other, thats why im not saying who the trade was with
some guys on here get pissed over the smallest things and bash other guys for no reason apart from boredom
im no hoarder and im not a big trader like some on here but i do respect peoples wishes.
guys come on here all the time saying he's a wanker or dont trade with him etc etc, that stuff doesnt bother me because i dont get involved in small minded shit.

[wadey]

SS,DD.

not saying that when your sending me a PM BEGGING ME TO NAME THE TRADER AND I CAN TRUST YOU
like i said you can believe what you want i have no reason to bullshit.

the title of the thread was DOES THE 1-1-1 VEGAS DVD EXIST
i offered my experience of trying to obtain the show and i get nothing but shit for my efforts
i have a couple of friends on here that i Pm etc and who i trust and exchange shit etc.......unfortunatley your not one of them
ive seen your arguements before, its ok when it pleases you but when when its on the other foot you throw your handbag and spit your dummy

[cotis]

Begging? Let me quote my PM...

"So you don't wish to share the name? I've got many tools at my disposal to use for things like this, including shows, $$$, etc.
All I have ever heard of this is BS, never saw anything come to fruition. "

After that I just listed a few people that I've become friends with in the GNR community who may be useful in the future in helping to get a show like this released -- JohnM/GNROSAS/Limulus. And I said MAY -- doesn't mean they can or will.



As for 'my arguments' -- if you are talking about with Dave/Locker/Timebomb/GNR4EVER69 -- there are OBVIOUS reasons there and if you dont know the reasons now about him, well then I feel bad for you.

And just to be clear -- I'm fine with him not telling the name of the person, I respect that. I just figured I might be able to help some way if he needed it. I offered some help and didn't get a reply and the LIKELIHOOD of something existing, is very low. Is it possible? Oh yes. But as I said "SS,DD" there have been countless people to do the same thing (ex. say they saw screenshots, don't have them, won't tell the trader). So I just said it is likely the same thing. I don't personally know you Wadey, nor do I have a problem with you, was just expressing my opinion that it (like I said) is probably the same thing all over again. But honestly, IDK you or the other guy so it could be true?

If you got the impression that I was trying to start shit, that wasn't it. As I said before -- I was offering help if something was needed (i.e. money/shows/etc.). A simple PM saying "No thanks, I'd rather not." works rather than making a post here falsely accusing me of 'begging' and everything.

And about this...
"i offered my experience of trying to obtain the show and i get nothing but shit for my efforts"

I don't see where? I didn't give you shit? Just merely gave you a PM offering help. When I got no reply (which I think is rude...like I said a simple "No thanks" works) I figured it was (as I said before) the same shit, different day.

These threads always end up leading to arguments and it is ridiculous. I came in here looking for information, you have/had some and won't share it -- simple as that.

[Will]

It does exist, or actually it did exist because it was supposed to be released on DVD as an official Japan-only release by Universal Japan, in late 2001. It got cancelled the very day of the supposed release date. It would be logical that it was already produced and ready to ship when it got cancelled (by the band, management, record company?).

The real question is: is it still somewhere in boxes in some warehouse in Japan, or have all copies been destroyed when it got cancelled? Has it leaked? I think no one can answer those questions. If it does exist in a leaked version, it would be shared on torrent sites I guess. If anyone has it, here's a good way to prove it: upload Silkworms on YouTube. The only other live video version of this song is from Rio 2001.

[cotis]

It does exist, or actually it did exist because it was supposed to be released on DVD as an official Japan-only release by Universal Japan, in late 2001. It got cancelled the very day of the supposed release date. It would be logical that it was already produced and ready to ship when it got cancelled (by the band, management, record company?).

The real question is: is it still somewhere in boxes in some warehouse in Japan, or have all copies been destroyed when it got cancelled? Has it leaked? I think no one can answer those questions. If it does exist in a leaked version, it would be shared on torrent sites I guess. If anyone has it, here's a good way to prove it: upload Silkworms on YouTube. The only other live video version of this song is from Rio 2001.

I remember hearing about it being ready to ship and everything, then got canceled. Didn't Amazon take orders for it and stuff, then people got refunds? (Sounds familiar...)

[Will]

I ordered it on Amazon Japan. Twice lol. First release date was in september 2001, then in december 2001. There were no refunds because Amazon only bill when they ship, and it got cancelled before shipments began.

[wadey]

Begging? Let me quote my PM...

"So you don't wish to share the name? I've got many tools at my disposal to use for things like this, including shows, $$$, etc.
All I have ever heard of this is BS, never saw anything come to fruition. "

After that I just listed a few people that I've become friends with in the GNR community who may be useful in the future in helping to get a show like this released -- JohnM/GNROSAS/Limulus. And I said MAY -- doesn't mean they can or will.



As for 'my arguments' -- if you are talking about with Dave/Locker/Timebomb/GNR4EVER69 -- there are OBVIOUS reasons there and if you dont know the reasons now about him, well then I feel bad for you.

And just to be clear -- I'm fine with him not telling the name of the person, I respect that. I just figured I might be able to help some way if he needed it. I offered some help and didn't get a reply and the LIKELIHOOD of something existing, is very low. Is it possible? Oh yes. But as I said "SS,DD" there have been countless people to do the same thing (ex. say they saw screenshots, don't have them, won't tell the trader). So I just said it is likely the same thing. I don't personally know you Wadey, nor do I have a problem with you, was just expressing my opinion that it (like I said) is probably the same thing all over again. But honestly, IDK you or the other guy so it could be true?

If you got the impression that I was trying to start shit, that wasn't it. As I said before -- I was offering help if something was needed (i.e. money/shows/etc.). A simple PM saying "No thanks, I'd rather not." works rather than making a post here falsely accusing me of 'begging' and everything.

And about this...
"i offered my experience of trying to obtain the show and i get nothing but shit for my efforts"

I don't see where? I didn't give you shit? Just merely gave you a PM offering help. When I got no reply (which I think is rude...like I said a simple "No thanks" works) I figured it was (as I said before) the same shit, different day.

These threads always end up leading to arguments and it is ridiculous. I came in here looking for information, you have/had some and won't share it -- simple as that.

i never replied to the PM because the notification went to my junk folder and i didnt know i had a pm until i checked on here.. i may be a lot of things but i am not ignorant and i would have replied when i recieved my notification
by you replying the same shit different day then yes i take that as giving me shit for nothing

edit - i sometimes have several windows open at once so it may appear im online but i could be elsewhere doing other stuff, and then i shut down without closing the windows

[1987]

i completely understand that if someone has this.. they wouldn't want to leak it.. so the item will maintain its value.. i don't really get why they would be so secretive though.. i would think a few a screen shots to prove that it exists would only make it more valuable.. since more people will beilieve that they own it and would be willing to spend or trade higher value items for it. .. so i guess the answer is that its still unknown if someone really has this or not.  i also remember it being offered in japan.. i ordered it too..

[Layne Staley's Sunglasses]

The people who have it probably blackmail Axl and rip him off.