Forecast: oil prices to hit 70$ per barrel border

[SLCPUNK]

but basically, what is oil for ?
cars ? all this war for cars ?
so we can go to the movies ? so the mom can drive her kids to soccer ?

cause yeah, oil is energy, but basically, energy for cars and nasa rockets ?

We use oil for all kinds of things, not just fuel.

Oil contributes to making our electricity, plastics, pesticides, agriculture, modern medecines, water distribution, all computers and other high tech devices......it goes on and on. Our entire society depends on oil.

The distribution of food is another thing that worries me.......Oil is needed to deliver food, in America we rely on this, Canada even more so.

[Kitano]

but basically, what is oil for ?
cars ? all this war for cars ?
so we can go to the movies ? so the mom can drive her kids to soccer ?

cause yeah, oil is energy, but basically, energy for cars and nasa rockets ?

If this war was just about stealing their oil then why aren't we getting any cheap oil?

You're a complete idiot.

 i love teh fire that is in these new posters...... keeps me young..... i jut wish they would all show up at once... that way i dont have to yell and yell and yell.......LOL

i can see your point on the why were not seeing the cheap prices. i look at it this way. the general population will not see the cheap prices, it is about securing stragic reserves for the military machine. some next gen ground veh's that are in testing are hybrids, and some are fuel cell, but for teh most part military veh's are fuel chuggers, very low milage per gallon. and with the West being based off of big business which most have some type of tie in to the oil industry they will make a huge profit.


and one thing to keep in mind even though demand for oil is on the rise for fuel dont forget that oil is a required material for about 75% of all things man made. almost all teh lightweight materials require oil for production, machines require it to be lubed.... etc......

If the sole purpose for the war in Iraq was to get access to oil reserves then why did the US waste their time going anywhere near bagdad?  They could have gone in and taken the southern oil fields and had enough oil to supply the US for the next thirty years.  Also if they just wanted oil, they could have taken saddam out and installed another dictator that they could control.

As for the military needing oil, that's not really an issue in this. It is true that military vehicles use a large amount of oil, the abrahams tank gets around a half a mile per gallon which is why they get transported everywhere on the back of a truck.  The US produces around 50% of the oil they use and the two largest sources of oil imports to the US aren't even from the middle east, they are canada and mexico.

The idea that the main motivating factor in the war was the aquisition of oil fields is a smoke screen dreamed up by the left to hide their opposition to the removal of a bloodthirsty tyrant.

[Prometheus]

but basically, what is oil for ?
cars ? all this war for cars ?
so we can go to the movies ? so the mom can drive her kids to soccer ?

cause yeah, oil is energy, but basically, energy for cars and nasa rockets ?

If this war was just about stealing their oil then why aren't we getting any cheap oil?

You're a complete idiot.

 i love teh fire that is in these new posters...... keeps me young..... i jut wish they would all show up at once... that way i dont have to yell and yell and yell.......LOL

i can see your point on the why were not seeing the cheap prices. i look at it this way. the general population will not see the cheap prices, it is about securing stragic reserves for the military machine. some next gen ground veh's that are in testing are hybrids, and some are fuel cell, but for teh most part military veh's are fuel chuggers, very low milage per gallon. and with the West being based off of big business which most have some type of tie in to the oil industry they will make a huge profit.


and one thing to keep in mind even though demand for oil is on the rise for fuel dont forget that oil is a required material for about 75% of all things man made. almost all teh lightweight materials require oil for production, machines require it to be lubed.... etc......

If the sole purpose for the war in Iraq was to get access to oil reserves then why did the US waste their time going anywhere near bagdad?  They could have gone in and taken the southern oil fields and had enough oil to supply the US for the next thirty years.  Also if they just wanted oil, they could have taken saddam out and installed another dictator that they could control.

As for the military needing oil, that's not really an issue in this. It is true that military vehicles use a large amount of oil, the abrahams tank gets around a half a mile per gallon which is why they get transported everywhere on the back of a truck.  The US produces around 50% of the oil they use and the two largest sources of oil imports to the US aren't even from the middle east, they are canada and mexico.

The idea that the main motivating factor in the war was the aquisition of oil fields is a smoke screen dreamed up by the left to hide their opposition to the removal of a bloodthirsty tyrant.

only one question who wants to go dig up the last 4 threads on iRAQ/oil as a reason.......valid assments, though i am starting to become surprised at the amount of neo-cons that are joining this board........ i must ask where do you all come from

[C0ma]

only one question who wants to go dig up the last 4 threads on iRAQ/oil as a reason.......valid assments, though i am starting to become surprised at the amount of neo-cons that are joining this board........ i must ask where do you all come from

As far as in America we happen to come from the Majority, based on the last 3 major elections.

[Kitano]

only one question who wants to go dig up the last 4 threads on iRAQ/oil as a reason.......valid assments, though i am starting to become surprised at the amount of neo-cons that are joining this board........ i must ask where do you all come from

As far as in America we happen to come from the Majority, based on the last 3 major elections.

Let's hear it for the red states. 

[Prometheus]

only one question who wants to go dig up the last 4 threads on iRAQ/oil as a reason.......valid assments, though i am starting to become surprised at the amount of neo-cons that are joining this board........ i must ask where do you all come from

As far as in America we happen to come from the Majority, based on the last 3 major elections.

 got to ask.. cause election voting in the US makes almost no sence over all...... of the 3 you speak of..... 1 was the reelection of Clinton.....? who is a dm correct...... but you and your collages... foolish imo.... but wait.... based on pop vote didnt bush loose 2000?...... no wait it was won by bush ... through some legal filpping..... or something.....so would that not mean that only the clinton reelection.. and the last your were the majority?

but really based on a 205 million person voter base.. some 80 million didnt even vote.... give or take a mill...... between bush and kerry not even 120 mill votes were cast..... and ya know what thats a pretty big margin that didnt vote.... if they all voted for 1 other person they could have elected anyone they wanted... and not got touched by bush or kerry.... more then a third didnt vote.. lol   thats funny

[Kitano]

only one question who wants to go dig up the last 4 threads on iRAQ/oil as a reason.......valid assments, though i am starting to become surprised at the amount of neo-cons that are joining this board........ i must ask where do you all come from

As far as in America we happen to come from the Majority, based on the last 3 major elections.

 got to ask.. cause election voting in the US makes almost no sence over all...... of the 3 you speak of..... 1 was the reelection of Clinton.....? who is a dm correct...... but you and your collages... foolish imo.... but wait.... based on pop vote didnt bush loose 2000?...... no wait it was won by bush ... through some legal filpping..... or something.....so would that not mean that only the clinton reelection.. and the last your were the majority?

but really based on a 205 million person voter base.. some 80 million didnt even vote.... give or take a mill...... between bush and kerry not even 120 mill votes were cast..... and ya know what thats a pretty big margin that didnt vote.... if they all voted for 1 other person they could have elected anyone they wanted... and not got touched by bush or kerry.... more then a third didnt vote.. lol? ?thats funny

The popular vote is not what the US elections are based on.  The candidate who wins in each state get the electoral college votes for that state and whoever have the most votes from the electoral college is the winner. 

It is true that President Bush did not win the popular vote in 2000 but he did win the popular vote in 2004.  Since you mentioned clinton it is worth reminding you that he didn't win the popular vote in 1992 or 1996.  The last president to win the popular vote was President Bush snr in 1988.

As for people who didn't vote. You can't count votes that weren't cast.  They all could have voted for gary coleman for all we know.  If people wish to vote, they can.

[Vicious Wishes]

We hate America! Down with America! All Americans are evil! Boo..hiss!

Now I feel like I fit in around here.

[Kitano]

We hate America! Down with America! All Americans are evil! Boo..hiss!

Now I feel like I fit in around here.

Wanna borrow my "Che lives" tshirt?

[Vicious Wishes]

We hate America! Down with America! All Americans are evil! Boo..hiss!

Now I feel like I fit in around here.

Wanna borrow my "Che lives" tshirt?

only if it's XL

[Will]

Fuck anti-american people. Fuck anti-european/ asian/ middle eastern/ african, etc. people. Plain and simple.

As for the rest, you guys should just move to a big city and sell your car! Ok I know it's not that simple but you see the point. Or at least get a hybrid car. Like SLC said, oil is not just for cars, but if people could use their car a little less, or not have one at all (for those who live in big cities), that would make a HUGE difference in the middle to long term.

[nesquick]

We hate America! Down with America! All Americans are evil! Boo..hiss!

Now I feel like I fit in around here.

I decided to stop talking about politic on the internet because I consider that lots of people (but not all of them) don't have enough knowledges to speak seriously about that. I suggest you to do like me, I can see you start to get annoyed (like I used to be). It's a loss of time. If some people are anti-americans or anti-whatever, let them in their ignorance. You will never make them change their mind.

[Vicious Wishes]

We hate America! Down with America! All Americans are evil! Boo..hiss!

Now I feel like I fit in around here.

I decided to stop talking about politic on the internet because I consider that lots of people (but not all of them) don't have enough knowledges to speak seriously about that. I suggest you to do like me, I can see you start to get annoyed (like I used to be). It's a loss of time. If some people are anti-americans or anti-whatever, let them in their ignorance. You will never make them change their mind.

I understand this, and know it to be true. You can't tell anyone anything unless they are ready to hear it. If you hate America, fine, whatever. I really don't give two shits for your opinion. They're like assholes you know. It does seem like every other thread either starts out with that being the topic, or it just gravitates to that end, though.

Will said it correctly. Don't waste your time hating someone. It's the most worthless emotion.

[SLCPUNK]

only one question who wants to go dig up the last 4 threads on iRAQ/oil as a reason.......valid assments, though i am starting to become surprised at the amount of neo-cons that are joining this board........ i must ask where do you all come from

As far as in America we happen to come from the Majority, based on the last 3 major elections.

A majority with a 38 percent approval rating.

[SLCPUNK]

We hate America! Down with America! All Americans are evil! Boo..hiss!

Now I feel like I fit in around here.

I decided to stop talking about politic on the internet because I consider that lots of people (but not all of them) don't have enough knowledges to speak seriously about that. I suggest you to do like me, I can see you start to get annoyed (like I used to be). It's a loss of time. If some people are anti-americans or anti-whatever, let them in their ignorance. You will never make them change their mind.

I understand this, and know it to be true. You can't tell anyone anything unless they are ready to hear it. If you hate America, fine, whatever. I really don't give two shits for your opinion. They're like assholes you know. It does seem like every other thread either starts out with that being the topic, or it just gravitates to that end, though.

Will said it correctly. Don't waste your time hating someone. It's the most worthless emotion.

Let the black and white speaker have the floor..........

Just because somebody speaks out against their country, does not mean they hate their country.

There is nothing MORE PATRIOTIC then standing up and demanding accountability from the people who run this country.

The price of oil per barrel has gone up what? 40% in the last 2 years? This is tremendous, and we better get real about it, or we are going to be in for a hard economic downturn.

I see a lot of right wingers coming aboard here to insult and point fingers, but I see little, if any real hard facts, or logic.

I'll take logic, common sense, decency, and what is right, over rabid finger pointing anyday.

[Vicious Wishes]

So demanding accountability=speaking out against your country?

[SLCPUNK]

So demanding accountability=speaking out against your country?

Yes.

I guess you definition of "speaking out against your country" would be bad.

In my book, calling somebody on a pack of lies, and war crimes, is the most patriotic thing I can do.

[Kitano]

So demanding accountability=speaking out against your country?

Yes.

I guess you definition of "speaking out against your country" would be bad.

In my book, calling somebody on a pack of lies, and war crimes, is the most patriotic thing I can do.

The legal definition of what you're doing is sedition and during world war 2 would probably have gotten you locked up.

[gilld1]

Kitano, the definition of what you've been force fed is propaganda.

I sure am glad that we have such a wonderful rail system in this country to help offset the gas prices.  Oh wait, that's Europe, not oil junky US.

[Kitano]

Kitano, the definition of what you've been force fed is propaganda.

I sure am glad that we have such a wonderful rail system in this country to help offset the gas prices.? Oh wait, that's Europe, not oil junky US.

You may not have noticed this but your trains run on diesel.  Higher oil prices mean higher ticket prices on your "workers transport".