Profiling? -Test Inside-

[Charity Case]

The next time someone tells you that profiling mid eastern men is wrong, make them take this test:

HISTORY TEST

Please pause a moment, reflect back, and take the following multiple choice test. The events are actual Events

from history. They actually happened.

Do you remember?

1. 1968 Bobby Kennedy was shot and killed by

    a. Superman

    b. Jay Leno

    c. Harry Potter

    d. a Muslim male extremist between the ages of 17 and 40

2. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and massacred by:

    a. Olga Corbett

    b. Sitting Bull

    c. Arnold Schwarzenegger

    d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

3. In 1979, the US embassy in Iran was taken over by:

    a. Lost Norwegians

    b. Elvis

    c. A tour bus full of 80-year-old women

    d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of  17 and 40

4. During the 1980's a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by:

    a. John Dillinger

    b. The King of Sweden

    c. The Boy Scouts

    d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

5. In 1983, the US Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by:

    a. A pizza delivery boy

    b. Pee Wee Herman

    c. Geraldo Rivera

    d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

6. In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70 year old American passenger was

 murdered and thrown overboard in his wheelchair by:

    a. The Smurfs

    b. Davy Jones

    c. The Little Mermaid

    d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

7. In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens, and a US Navy diver trying to rescue passengers

was murdered by:

    a. Captain Kidd

    b. Charles Lindberg

    c. Mother Teresa

    d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

8. In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by:

    a. Scooby Doo

    b. The Tooth Fairy

    c. Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid

    d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

9. In 1993 the World Trade Center was bombed the first time by:

    a. Richard Simmons

    b. Grandma Moses

    c. Michael Jordan

    d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of  17 and 40

10. In 1998, the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by:

    a. Mr. Rogers

    b. Hillary Clinton, to distract attention from Wild Bill's women problems

    c. The World Wrestling Federation

    d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

11. On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked; two were used as missiles to take out the World Trade Centers

and of the remaining two, one crashed into the US Pentagon and the other was diverted and crashed by the passengers.

Thousands of people were killed by:

    a. Bugs Bunny, Wiley E. Coyote, Daffy Duck and Elmer Fudd

    b. The Supreme Court of Florida

    c. Mr. Bean

    d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

12. In 2002 the United States fought a war in Afghanistan against:

    a. Enron

    b. The Lutheran Church

    c. The NFL

    d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

13. In 2002 reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and murdered by:

    a. Bonnie and Clyde

    b. Captain Kangaroo

    c. Billy Graham

    d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

Nope, ..I really don't see a pattern here to justify profiling, do you? So, to ensure we Americans never offend anyone, particularly fanatics intent on killing us, airport security screeners will no longer be allowed to profile certain people. They must conduct random searches of 80-year-old women, little kids, airline pilots with proper identification, secret agents who are members of the President's security detail, 85-year old Congressmen with metal hips, and Medal of Honor winning and former Governor Joe Foss, but leave Muslim Males between the ages 17 and 40 alone lest they be guilty of profiling.

As the writer of the award winning story "Forrest Gump" so aptly put it, "Stupid is as stupid does."

Come on people, wake up!!!

And guess who just bombed London?

[Tied-Up]

And white men between the ages of 17 and 40 NEVER commit any crimes right?

Tell me something, how to you know a muslim from a christian?  based on skin color?

How do you 'spot' an extremist?  based on skin color again?  It doesn't require a certain race or gender to create an extremist, only misguided ideals.

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[Tj]

And guess who just bombed London?

Billy Graham? 

I'm not in a political mood.

[BigCombo]

14. In 1995 the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City was blown up by:

a. Bill Clinton

b. Jarmo

c. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

d. White righ-wing extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

[Prometheus]

And guess who just bombed London?

Billy Graham? 

I'm not in a political mood.

neither am i... however... i guess you better lock em all up eh?

hey didnt the allies do that with the japs in WW2?

fracking hell..... may the gods pee on you for being so anti anything other then your own intrests...... there wa a time when i would have loved to be an amercian citizen... and live within the borders of the most powerful country on earth.... you know what not a chance now.. id rather live where i am.... and stay canadian..... at least here i know that for the most part tolerence is our middle name

[Charity Case]

So I take it that you all think that profiling is a bad idea?  Well everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but if it were completely up to me I'd search every muslim looking (yes that mean middle eastern looking) male between 17 and 40 that entered every airport, subway, hospital, church, school, bus stop, restaurant, bookstore, theme park, etc, etc etc.  That does not mean that I think all muslims males are bad people.  Hardly.  It only means that I recognize that our biggest enemy right now is the radical extremeists that happen to be muslim males betwen the age of 17 and 40.  We are talking here about an enemy that is very very recognizable.  I think it is safe to say that a huge majority of terrorists are muslim males between 17 and 40 years old.  Searching old ladies so that we don't infringe on the rights of muslim males is so ridiculous to me.  And yes, there are white men that commit atrocities as well, just like in Oklahoma.  However, I think you can see that stopping a pattern of hatred like these extremeist muslim terrorists are displaying is an easier task than trying to find a needle in a haystack like it would be to find the next timothy mcvey.

[Prometheus]

jesus lets go right to hell with it.... lets just erase them from the planet...... hey... wait didnt the nazis try that with the jews?


fuck sake......seriously....... some peoples kids

[Guns N RockMusic]

This is a toughy situation, but the original poster is right.  Forgive me if I don't keep an open mind to the opinions and ideals of others who wish to destroy my country.  This isn't a black and white scenario, but the reality of the fact is that America has to protect its own interest and only islam extremist who are ethnic middle easterns are committing these crimes.  Timothy McVay was a fucking wacko (but I'd hardly call him a right-winger) and no one but Nazis and loonies defend him.  Yet, many of you defend the Islamic nutjobs.  Why the double standard here?  I know there are Muslim members of this board, and my comments are in no way meant to offend you.   My opinions are my own, but I don't discriminate when it comes to religion, I believe them all to be bullshit and forms of control.  Christian extremist who want the bible in our schools and in my life are no different than the Islam extremist, except they don't blow shit up on a regular basis, but that's not to say the Christians wouldn't if given similar circumstances.  But I digress, whether you like America and its policies, America has a right to defense and will defend itself.  Currently, only ethnic middle eastern ,extremist men pose that threat and any prudent person would focus on them.  If only McDonalds sells Big Macs, why the fuck would you walk into Wendy's and Burger King to see if they sell them too.  This is just politically correct nonsense.  Again, this isn't a black and white issue, but it's not white, black, yellow or red people blowing up every target of oppurtunity they can.  It's not women and it's not little kids.  It's Arab male extremist, so why should our security focus on any other segment than what has been doing the crime?  Rather than provide rhetoric or some other buillshit excuse, offer a logical reason with all the facts considered.  America being "nice" to the rest of the world and stepping down as the final and last superpower isn't a viable option.  The reality of the situation is that America does what it does so that the average American can enjoy the standard of living and comfort they have.  Every other nation in the world wants to be America or has been in a similar situation as America in the past and been held to the same ridicule.  Let us not forget the sins of our English, French, German, Italian, Japanese, Chinese and Russian brothers.

[Charity Case]

Very well put.  But it is funny to watch the left wing nutjobs go over the top with comparing my ideals to the Nazis because I wan to search these people.     Get some perspective people.

[Where is Hassan Nasrallah ?]

one question

how do you know the guy is muslim ?

i look like an arab - see gallery - (because my father is from tunisia) but i am no muslim.
so what do you do ?

and profiling is indeed stupid, because, islam is a RELIGION. and a white man can be muslim too.
i was thinking about that. if western countries start on profiling muslim-looking people, terrorist will just hire and brainwash normal white men and use them as  kamikaze, it's simple.

peace,

[Genesis]

Profiling sucks anyway. People don't act according to a formula... 

[Izzy]

Nope, ..I really don't see a pattern here to justify profiling, do you? So, to ensure we Americans never offend anyone, particularly fanatics intent on killing us, airport security screeners will no longer be allowed to profile certain people. They must conduct random searches of 80-year-old women, little kids, airline pilots with proper identification, secret agents who are members of the President's security detail, 85-year old Congressmen with metal hips, and Medal of Honor winning and former Governor Joe Foss, but leave Muslim Males between the ages 17 and 40 alone lest they be guilty of profiling.

As the writer of the award winning story "Forrest Gump" so aptly put it, "Stupid is as stupid does."

Come on people, wake up!!!

And guess who just bombed London?

Your pathetic

How dare u infer Muslims are wicked people.

Insanity is not limited to a particular ethnic group as u clearly demonstrate.

Quite why such blatant rascism is allowed on this board.....

[Jamie]

Who invaded and slaughtered an innocent race of people to set up their own country? Who created a group solely commited to the murder and eventual end to anyone with a different skin colour to theirs? Who exploits the poorest countries in the world and makes money from their citizens by using their lack of knowledge of modern technology and economics? Who put millions of Jewish, Homosexual, Disabled and Gypsie people into concentration camps to be gased because they thought they were the source of all their problems? Who went in to a Middle Eastern country claiming to know of the where-abouts of WMD's (which they think the have the perfect right to own) that was already suffering from a violent dictator and made their problems worse? Who colonized Africa all those years ago and made the people their slaves?

I'll tell you who, White Christians. We are behind just as many (if not more) crimes against humanity as our Muslim brothers. Extreme action against these people, who have been brainwashed by corrupt leaders, just like George W's troops, will only harden their beliefs and make the problems worse, not improve them.

[Charity Case]

You miss the point of my post.  I am not questioning the fact that all types of people do bad things.  I am simply stating that as of right now, the group of individuals that is causing the most terror in this world (and yes by most I mean a huge majority of it) is muslim men between 17 and 40 years old.  And someone said that islam is a religion and how do you know someone is muslim because white people or black people can be muslim too.  Well, watch some TV.  Go to any site on the internet dedicated to news coverage.  read a paper.  Every single terrorist you see in the news is middle eastern.  I have not seen too many white or black terrorists on tv.  Look at the guys they caught in England last week.  They are middle easterns.  The thought that if we begin profiling the terrorists will recruit white people is assinine.  You can't possibly think that would happen?

Someone posted "i look like an arab - see gallery - (because my father is from tunisia) but i am no muslim.
so what do you do ? "  I'll tell you what we do.  We ask you kindly to show us your bags and we search you when you enter an airport or a public place or what have you.  If you are innocent and have no bad intentions, the search is over in 4 minutes and go about your way.  If you are a terrorist with a bomb, then we just saved a bunch of lives.  This is pretty much common sense people.  A small price to pay if you ask me.

Izzy, I don't see a conversation about profiling as being a racist conversation.  It is a prominent topic in world politics right now.  Read a paper.

[Jamie]

Well, Muslim men aren't the only terrorists around. You could be checking a completely innocent Muslim man and a white man with a bomb could walk past unchecked, if one person is to be checked everyone should be checked.

And no matter how smart and intelligent checking Muslim men because of the recent political climate may seem. It is still racism and the Muslim community as a whole should not be treated with fear and suspision just because of what a bunch of nut cases are doing in their name.

[Where is Hassan Nasrallah ?]

but charity case, but what will you do when terrorist will brainwash "white men" and use them as kamikaze ? uh uh ?
you'll search all the arab lookin people and let the normal white guy with a bomb go through ?

uh uh ?

[Charity Case]

but charity case, but what will you do when terrorist will brainwash "white men" and use them as kamikaze

Do you actually think this could happen?  Who would they prey on?  Europeans?  American?  What group could possible be brainwashed into thinking the way they do?  I mean they brainwash their own people now based on their religious beliefs.  Unless you are born and raised a muslim in the middle east, I doubt you would be brainwashed into thinking the way they do.

It is an interesting topic.  I feel that profiling is perfectly acceptable in this case because we know what the enemy looks like.  Others don't.  It's all good.

[SLCPUNK]

haha, look at the two biggest TOOLBAGS get together on this one.

Who destroyed Nicaragua?

Who blew up a mosque in beirut missing the cleric they were targeting, yet killing 80 women and children and wounding 250? Hint: A car bomb was used

Who was the only nation to be  condemned for "unlawful use of force" by  International Court of Justice?

Who masacred civilians in El Salvador?

Who massacred civilians or "soft targets" in Guatemala?

Answer: United States Of America.

Using your own standards then, Americans should be profiled as terrorists.

[sandman]

profiling is a tool to fight crime that is proven to work. it should be used at all levels of crime prevention.

thus, it certainly should be used to fight terrorism.

and if blond-haired irish guys blow up a bunch of planes and threaten to do it again, i'm screwed. but i'll be first in line to have the proper authorities search me at the airport.

[Where is Hassan Nasrallah ?]

profiling is a tool to fight crime that is proven to work. it should be used at all levels of crime prevention.

thus, it certainly should be used to fight terrorism.

and if blond-haired irish guys blow up a bunch of planes and threaten to do it again, i'm screwed. but i'll be first in line to have the proper authorities search me at the airport.

but given the difference between all the suspects (irish guys, arab guys, black guys, russian guys ...) < profiling loses its strength.