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« on: August 03, 2005, 01:49:08 AM »

By Janet Guttsman
Tue Aug 2, 7:52 PM ET
 


TORONTO (Reuters) - All 309 passengers and crew survived after an Air France Airbus burst into flames when it overshot the runway and crashed into a gully at Toronto's Pearson International Airport in a lightning storm on Tuesday.

Airport officials said there had been only minor injuries as passengers evacuated the jet, an Airbus A340 . The plane skidded 200 yards past the runway as it came in to land.

"As far as we know at this stage the passengers were able to flee the aircraft before the fire broke out," Steve Shaw of the Greater Toronto Airport Authority told a news conference.

"As far as we know there have been no fatalities and no serious injuries, although some 24 passengers have been taken to hospital with minor injuries."

Smoke and flames billowed from the plane, which landed in a gully where there was a fatal aviation accident 27 years ago. The smell of smoke drifted into terminal buildings.

All flights to or from the airport, Canada's largest and busiest, were canceled or diverted to other cities.

"The plane came to a rough stop, and that's putting it mildly," passenger Roel Bramar told Canada's CBC Television.

"I was in the very back of the plane and could see there was fire... People were just running like crazy, just in case there was an explosion, which I guess there wasn't. So I guess things ended up okay, but I can't tell for sure."

'RED ALERT'

Shaw said Toronto airport was under a "red alert" as the plane came into land -- which means there is a danger of lightning and thunder. Ground activity stops, and planes must not be marshaled or unloaded.

But he declined to speculate about whether the plane might have been struck by lighting. "The Transportation Safety Board will conduct a full investigation," he said.

Air France said the plane, AF358 from Paris to Toronto, had 297 passengers and 12 crew members aboard.

The A340-300 has a range of more than 7,000 miles, which makes it popular with more than two dozen carriers for long-haul flights. The ill-fated aircraft was at its seating capacity of 300 passengers.

Investigators will zero in on the flight data and cockpit voice recorders for information on crew and on the aircraft's performance.

Debbi Wilkes, who was driving on a highway alongside the airport, said it was "pouring rain" and "pelting with hail" as the plane came down. "We saw a bolt of lightning come down and hit something," she said.

The plane was lying off the end of a runway close to a main traffic artery. Some passengers ran to the highway and were taken to hospital from there.

Afternoon rush hour traffic quickly clogged up along the highway, Canada's busiest, as vehicles passed only a few yards from the crash site.

An Air Canada jet crashed into the same creek in 1978 in the last fatal accident at Toronto airport. That plane had 107 people aboard. Two died.

"It was about 4 o'clock. It was getting really dark. All of a sudden lightning was happening. A lot of rain was coming down," witness Corey Marx, who was standing by the highway watching planes land at the airport, told CNN.

"It came in on the runway, everything looked good. Sounded good. Hit the runway nice and all of a sudden we heard its engines backing up."

Marx said rescue workers got to the plane within about 40 or 50 seconds.

(Additional reporting by Susan Thomas, Cameron French, Franco Pingue, Allan Dowd, Robert Melnbardis, Nicole Mordant and John Crawley)

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« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2005, 11:23:20 AM »

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"It was about 4 o'clock. It was getting really dark. All of a sudden lightning was happening. A lot of rain was coming down," witness Corey Marx, who was standing by the highway watching planes land at the airport, told CNN.


this guy got more ball then me... stood on the shoulder of the 401 during rush hour....... dude must have been tring to commit sucide... only to have it thwarted by a fast thinking air france pilot.......
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« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2005, 03:19:14 PM »

Yeah standing on the 401 is definately stupid.  People who got off that plane even went out trying to hitch rides after....that's just asking for death. 
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« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2005, 01:19:05 PM »

http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/plane_fire/

It's been described as a miracle. An Air France flight comes to a violent halt in a ravine, 200 metres past the end of a runway, its tail on fire. All 309 people on board get out safely. There are no serious injuries.

Airport officials had instituted a Red Alert at noon on Tuesday, Aug. 2, 2005, because of severe weather in the surrounding area. That prevented most flights from taking off during the afternoon. Incoming flights were permitted to land, if conditions allowed.

Among them was Air France Flight 358, carrying 297 passengers and 12 crew members on a flight from Paris. It had left Charles De Gaulle Airport at 1:32 p.m. Paris time and was due to land in Toronto at 3:35 p.m. EDT.

The flight was uneventful until the final approach to Toronto. A severe thunderstorm kept the plane circling over Toronto for 15 minutes.

Finally, the pilot felt confident enough to take the plane down on runway 24L in the southern part of the airport.

Passenger Johnny Abedrabblo said he didn't notice any signs of trouble until after the Airbus 340-300 touched down.

"As soon as we landed, we kind of had a normal landing, where people started clapping," said the Toronto man. "But then we started hearing these noises like when you have a flat tire. I think the landing gear ? something happened to the landing gear."

There was something terribly wrong with the landing. More than 2700 metres of runway ? enough to handle the biggest passenger aircraft in the world ? was not enough for Air France Flight 358.

The plane came to a skidding halt 200 metres past the end of the runway, with the nose pointing down a ravine and the tail visible from Canada's busiest highway ? the 401 ? just south of the crash scene.

There were flames and thick black smoke pouring out of the tail.

The scene was somewhat similar to the last major accident at this airport. In 1978, an Air Canada jet skidded off the same runway after the pilot aborted a takeoff when a tire blew. The plane came to a stop in the same ravine.

Two people died in that accident.

This time it was different. As fire ate its way through Air France Flight 358, flight attendants did exactly as they were trained to do ? they got passengers quickly and safely out of a dangerous situation.

They had precious few minutes to move 297 passengers out through the emergency exits before they might be overcome by toxic fumes.

Airport officials say emergency response teams were on site within 52 seconds. "By that time, approximately three-quarters of the passengers had come down the chute and into the field," said Mike Figliola, fire chief with the Greater Toronto Airports Authority.

The plane was emptied of passengers and crew within two minutes. The rescue operation turned into the job of putting out the fire.

"Fifty yards away from the aircraft, my face was burning," said Figliola. "The fire was very, very intense."

Sixteen hours after the accident, which occurred at 4:03 p.m. EDT, the wreckage was still smouldering, he said. The plane had broken into three pieces.

Aviation experts have said the extreme weather conditions at the time of the landing - strong winds, driving rain and lightning - likely played a key role in the crash.

Transport Canada will spearhead the investigation.

Air France officials, including chairman Jean-Cyril Spinetta, a medical team and a psychologist, left Paris for Toronto the day after the crash to help with the investigation as well as to assist the passengers.
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I was in the car when the crash happened. The weather was terrible, looked like a tornado would start.

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« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2005, 02:12:55 PM »

should be merged with jarmo's thread on the topic..........



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« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2005, 06:30:28 PM »

should be merged with jarmo's thread on the topic..........



yes im the thread nazi......

ya i didnt see jarmo's thread till i posted it. tried to delete it afterwards too.
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« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2005, 08:46:37 PM »

lol.... im just getting anal about threads..... lol
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« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2005, 11:21:15 PM »

should be merged with jarmo's thread on the topic..........



yes im the thread nazi......

I nominate you for the next Mod position that opens up. hihi
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« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2005, 02:31:04 AM »

great then id have to mod myself... and then id ban myself.... talk about sucide... lol
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« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2005, 05:12:19 PM »

Two people died on the crash, i just re-read my post  Undecided
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« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2005, 06:48:34 PM »

Two people died on the crash, i just re-read my post  Undecided

 im too lazy to re read... was it during the crash or was it post crash in hospital from crash related injuries... or form tring to hitch rides across the 401?
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« Reply #11 on: August 06, 2005, 07:22:55 AM »

Nobody died in this crash thankfully but two people died in the 1978 crash

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