GNR vs VR (Player By Player)

[nesquick]

It's strange that the mods haven't closed this thread.

I was on a holiday when I heard about this thread. I thought it was a joke at first, but obviously some people enjoy comparing two bands like this.

So go on, compare and rate. If that's what you want.





/jarmo

You should just sticky this thread and put all the VR vs Gnr threads here, so they might just die.

yes, good idea. people can't resist to talk and debate about "battles" between bands. and nobody can go against that. Just put a sticky and you won't have to close threads talking about that ever.

[AxlRoseVen]

It's strange that the mods haven't closed this thread.

I was on a holiday when I heard about this thread. I thought it was a joke at first, but obviously some people enjoy comparing two bands like this.

So go on, compare and rate. If that's what you want.





/jarmo

You should just sticky this thread and put all the VR vs Gnr threads here, so they might just die.

yes, good idea. people can't resist to talk and debate about "battles" between bands. and nobody can go against that. Just put a sticky and you won't have to close threads talking about that ever.

but it's a madness cuz it might be a killer thread where everyone'd insult each other!!!!!!   

[Jim Bob]

JimmyTheGent, you are being an absolute retard.. you are saying you pick Scott over Axl because you don't like Axl's voice now or whatever.. but back in the day you would have picked Axl?  ok.  Then you start talking about Slash, Duff, and Izzy, and how its absurd to prefer ANYONE over them for what they did back in the day..  what about Axl? 

My votes:

Axl over Scott - Scott is good, Axl is superb

Robin over Slash - Both great guitarists, Robin has the edge as far as tech ability and his style is a bit more modern but fits really well with GNR.  Robin wins.

Fortus over Kushner - I'm not a fan of that kushner guy really, i dont know him, but I really like Fortus.  He is perfect in GNR, Kushner doens't stand out to me at all.

Tommy over Duff - Very close, both excellent bassists. Tommy is a little bit better in GNR, and much better on his own.  Just listen to his solo shit and then Duff's.

Brain over Matt - I never liked matt at all.   Brain is pretty rockin.

Dizzy over no Keys - GNR have much more diversity in their music than VR do, and that is a good thing IMO.  Songs like Oh My God, IRS, CD, and then songs like madagascar or the Blues... VR could never pull that kind of shit off like GNR can. 

[jimmythegent]

JimmyTheGent, you are being an absolute retard.. you are saying you pick Scott over Axl because you don't like Axl's voice now or whatever.. but back in the day you would have picked Axl?? ok.? Then you start talking about Slash, Duff, and Izzy, and how its absurd to prefer ANYONE over them for what they did back in the day..? what about Axl??
 

And you're bringing this up again why??
JimBob, I've already discussed that back a few pages with yer buddy Dave - get with the program 

Picked Scott, Duff and Slash for their work in Contraband TODAY

Side comment with Scott being that Axl wouldve kicked his ass back in the day - that is my opinion which was stated very clearly Dave.

[Malcolm]

I say:
Axl
Slash
Richard
Duff
Matt

[Jim Bob]

JimmyTheGent, you are being an absolute retard.. you are saying you pick Scott over Axl because you don't like Axl's voice now or whatever.. but back in the day you would have picked Axl?  ok.  Then you start talking about Slash, Duff, and Izzy, and how its absurd to prefer ANYONE over them for what they did back in the day..  what about Axl? 
 

And you're bringing this up again why??
JimBob, I've already discussed that back a few pages with yer buddy Dave - get with the program 

Picked Scott, Duff and Slash for their work in Contraband TODAY

Side comment with Scott being that Axl wouldve kicked his ass back in the day - that is my opinion which was stated very clearly Dave.

the opinion of a jackass.   Scott is good, Axl is a legend

[jimmythegent]

JimmyTheGent, you are being an absolute retard.. you are saying you pick Scott over Axl because you don't like Axl's voice now or whatever.. but back in the day you would have picked Axl?? ok.? Then you start talking about Slash, Duff, and Izzy, and how its absurd to prefer ANYONE over them for what they did back in the day..? what about Axl??
 

And you're bringing this up again why??
JimBob, I've already discussed that back a few pages with yer buddy Dave - get with the program?

Picked Scott, Duff and Slash for their work in Contraband TODAY

Side comment with Scott being that Axl wouldve kicked his ass back in the day - that is my opinion which was stated very clearly Dave.

the opinion of a jackass.? ?Scott is good, Axl is a legend

im not going to be drawn into an argument with a moron like you - go and crawl back to the hole you came from 

[nesquick]

Just an update concerning Robin (about my evaluation page 1) (in red, my new evaluation)

robin
stage presence 8 -----> 6
energy 7 ---->6
ability 7 ----> 4 (compared to Slash)?
look/cool factor 2 ---> 3
Potencial media attraction/impact on the general public ---> 0.5 (Slash = 10)

[jimmythegent]

Just an update concerning Robin (about my evaluation page 1) (in red, my new evaluation)

robin
stage presence 8 -----> 6
energy 7 ---->6
ability 7 ----> 4 (compared to Slash)?
look/cool factor 2 ---> 3
Potencial media attraction/impact on the general public ---> 0.5 (Slash = 10)

hahaha - so he's actually gone down further in your estimation Nesquick?
You really have it in for this guy don't you? (while thinking the sun shines out of Fortus' ass  )

I think you'll actually see Robin play a fairly large role in CD - it wouldnt surprise me at all if his name came up the most in the writing credits except Mr Rose of course

[nesquick]

I may change my mind when the album comes out.

[chineseblues]

Just an update concerning Robin (about my evaluation page 1) (in red, my new evaluation)

robin
stage presence 8 -----> 6
energy 7 ---->6
ability 7 ----> 4 (compared to Slash) 
look/cool factor 2 ---> 3
Potencial media attraction/impact on the general public ---> 0.5 (Slash = 10)

man thats so biased. You never have ANYTHING good to say about robin.

this is the way it should be:

stage presence  -----> 9
energy  ---->10
ability  ----> 9
look/cool factor  --->10
Potencial media attraction/impact on the general public --->10

[nesquick]

You never have ANYTHING good to say about robin.

no, you are wrong. I think he is a great guy and a great person. I love his website and his "artsy" personality. But I just think Axl has been making a mistake to hire him on lead for 8 years. The gap is so huge. Is he really the right guy to replace Mr Slash? If you think he is ok that's your right, but it's not mine. As I said, i may change totally my mind when CD comes out. I'm not a basher, never been one and never will be. I never have definitive judgment.

[chineseblues]

You never have ANYTHING good to say about robin.

no, you are wrong. I think he is a great guy and a great person. I love his website and his "artsy" personality. But I just think Axl has been making a mistake to hire him on lead for 8 years. Is he really the right guy? If you think he is ok that's your right, but it's not mine.

Yes he is the right guy for the position. He did write the guitar parts for the blues afterall....

[nesquick]

you see, the blues guitar solo is very good...I give him credit for that.

[Miss-Aussie]

I agree with D. Old school GNR, not many bands on the planet could beat.

I totally agree, lets just hope CD takes the world by storm which i believe it will, the old stuff is the best but the same goes for metallica aswell, thier old stuff is better than the new... i just hope they dont get stuck into this nu-metal that is floating around currently, that would be a shame

[Jim Bob]

Robin is actually more techincally skilled then slash and his style is somewhat similar, yet more modern and he is a bit more diverse.  GNR doesn't need Slash. 

[AxlsMainMan]

Robin is actually more techincally skilled then slash and his style is somewhat similar, yet more modern and he is a bit more diverse.? GNR doesn't need Slash.?

Wow, the blind devotion some of you have for the new band sometimes is shocking

[Neemo]

Just an update concerning Robin (about my evaluation page 1) (in red, my new evaluation)

robin
stage presence 8 -----> 6
energy 7 ---->6
ability 7 ----> 4 (compared to Slash)?
look/cool factor 2 ---> 3
Potencial media attraction/impact on the general public ---> 0.5 (Slash = 10)

man thats so biased. You never have ANYTHING good to say about robin.

this is the way it should be:

stage presence? -----> 9
energy? ---->10
ability? ----> 9
look/cool factor? --->10
Potencial media attraction/impact on the general public --->10

And your opiniion is WAAAAYYYYYY less biased?

I'm with nesquick, he's average at best.

[ppbebe]

I think otherwise.

Robin's playing (/ rendering) is so unusual. Who plays like him?

[ryan_of_lax]

I'm a musician, so my opinion means everything
(ha ha ha...)

Axl beats Scott for sure.
Scott is an EXCELLENT singer, but his lyrics are sometimes a little weak, and he tends to make the singing similar in a lot of songs. The singing for Unglued is exactly the same for one of the VR songs.
The last 2 minute of Coma pretty much put Axl ahead of any singer in my mind.

Duff vs Tommy
Tommy is good, and definitely has lots of energy. He is pretty faithful in playing Duff's parts well too. But Duff came up with those parts... So I take Duff. Plus his bass sound in the GNR Days was so unique. Right Next Door To Hell intro? mmmmm

Richard vs Dave
The sound of Contraband is just a big mess, so it's hard to know what Dave is playing. Richard's solo stuff on his site is really cool though, and I know he is quite capable of being the lead player in GNR, so I'm going to say Richard.

Slash vs Robin
There isn't even a competition here. Slash can play circles around Robin. I can't believe anyone would argue otherwise. Slash is so smooth whereas Robin kind of sounds like some kind of knife cutting through the mix... I like Robin for the most part, but he is in no way anywhere near as good as Slash. Shame on all of you. ha ha ha

Brain vs Matt
Matt is an underrated drummer. While I think the sound of the drums is the lowpoint of the UYI CDs, his skill is really highlited on Coma and Locomotive. I think there's a good reason there isn't much UYI stuff played by the new band... They can't pull it off properly. Brain done a lot of great work with Primus though. I'm not a huge fan of either drummer, but I'll take Matt here.