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Re: "Chinese Democracy" and "O.K. Computer"
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I think CD will be like OK in the sense of diversity between songs. On OK, almost every track is distinctly different yet held together by Yorke's musings on modern life and it's trappings. The album is an absolute masterpiece. Radiohead will never top it, especially considering the direction they went after it. It is the Dark Side of the Moon of the 90's. I continue to try to envision CD as a heavy metal OKC or Achtung Baby. One can dream can't he?
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Quote from: blasphemer on July 04, 2005, 05:54:47 PM
If u want a priceless album go buy? ? Nola? by the group called? "down"? ? ? ? One of the greastest unknown records of all time.? But the true rockers should already know about this one.
Blasphemer, that album does kick ass!!!!!
I just listened to it last week
A Bustle In Your Hedgerow, their 2nd album, was wicked too, and it was written and recorded in less than a month!!!
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Quote from: Neemo on July 04, 2005, 03:48:17 PM
Quote from: BurningHills on July 04, 2005, 03:14:15 PM
Am I the only person here that thinks Radiohead completely blows, except for maybe 2 songs?
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Nope!!! I'm not a big fan of them either
sign me up too, please!
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Nesquick, heavy metal was the wrong word-a hard rock OKC! Is that better?
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Quote from: Hillel Slovak on July 05, 2005, 09:14:49 AM
Quote from: Neemo on July 04, 2005, 03:48:17 PM
Quote from: BurningHills on July 04, 2005, 03:14:15 PM
Am I the only person here that thinks Radiohead completely blows, except for maybe 2 songs?
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Nope!!! I'm not a big fan of them either
sign me up too, please!
Ok, stop whining about Radiohead please.... It's pretty pointless listing people who hate that band in the GN'R section.
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Personally, I would love to see
Chinese Democracy
achieve the kind of stylistic diversity, yet continuity of strength that
O.K. Computer
did for Radiohead. In other words, I'll consider it an impressive artistic achievement if it's all killer-no filler, with a wide range of influences being pulled through the Guns N' Roses filter.
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I went to a radiohead show in Paris almost 2 years ago, that's not one of my favourite band? but that was a great show. the guitar player and the bassist are amazing! This is a great band. Their music is quite special, it's not energizing Rock music like GN'R, but they have their own universe. However, it's pretty depressing music. Definitely. That's one of the bad point of this band. They are great in what they do, but this is special.
Thom Yorke is a great Live singer, however he doesn't have a lot of charisma/stage presence. He is not a beast on stage like Axl or Steven Tyler or any other monsters of Rock. He is pretty shy. Not explosive. But he was great though.
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Personally, I love the rare diversity of the fan bases GN'R has achieved, despite the fact it's mostly a mere pain in the ass.
Is it that the majority of metal heads hate Radioheads?
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I continue to try to envision CD as a
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OKC or Achtung Baby
Are you serious?
I was bout to ask the same....
Then again, what genres are Dark Side of the Moon OKC and Achtung Baby in?
My grandma would put down all of them as "Beatles".
I urge that GN'R should create its own genre this time so that the band can fled from the labelling buisiness.
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Nola by the group called "down"
Beauty is in the eye of beholder and not in mine on this one, Sorry.
I guess I look for some lyricism in music.
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I think OK Computer is one of the best rock albums in the last 12 years. Paranoid Android is the better song IMO. I can only hope to see Axl doing something like that, it would be amazing.
I agree with Indiana Rose. I guess CD will be something more like Zep with new trends, more Kashimir and less Mama Kin. But I'm pretty sure we'll hear a lot of Queen there too, as it's one of Axl's biggest influences.
Quote from: nesquick on July 05, 2005, 10:34:34 AM
I went to a radiohead show in Paris almost 2 years ago, that's not one of my favourite band but that was a great show. the guitar player and the bassist are amazing! This is a great band. Their music is quite special, it's not energizing Rock music like GN'R, but they have their own universe. However, it's pretty depressing music. Definitely. That's one of the bad point of this band. They are great in what they do, but this is special.
Thom Yorke is a great Live singer, however he doesn't have a lot of charisma/stage presence. He is not a beast on stage like Axl or Steven Tyler or any other monsters of Rock. He is pretty shy. Not explosive. But he was great though.
It could not work for you, but it's their style. Yorke never wanted to be a "rock star" like Tyler or Axl. His lyrics are depressing, and that's what the fans like it. Sorry if it's not your taste.
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Quote from: Voodoochild on July 05, 2005, 12:34:58 PM
I think OK Computer is one of the best rock albums in the last 12 years. Paranoid Android is the better song IMO. I can only hope to see Axl doing something like that, it would be amazing.
I agree with Indiana Rose. I guess CD will be something more like Zep with new trends, more Kashimir and less Mama Kin. But I'm pretty sure we'll hear a lot of Queen there too, as it's one of Axl's biggest influences.
Quote from: nesquick on July 05, 2005, 10:34:34 AM
I went to a radiohead show in Paris almost 2 years ago, that's not one of my favourite band? but that was a great show. the guitar player and the bassist are amazing! This is a great band. Their music is quite special, it's not energizing Rock music like GN'R, but they have their own universe. However, it's pretty depressing music. Definitely. That's one of the bad point of this band. They are great in what they do, but this is special.
Thom Yorke is a great Live singer, however he doesn't have a lot of charisma/stage presence. He is not a beast on stage like Axl or Steven Tyler or any other monsters of Rock. He is pretty shy. Not explosive. But he was great though.
It could not work for you, but it's their style. Yorke never wanted to be a "rock star" like Tyler or Axl. His lyrics are depressing, and that's what the fans like it. Sorry if it's not your taste.
re-read what I said, I said it was a great band and that the show was great. my comment was positive.
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Quote from: nesquick on July 05, 2005, 12:54:52 PM
Quote from: Voodoochild on July 05, 2005, 12:34:58 PM
I think OK Computer is one of the best rock albums in the last 12 years. Paranoid Android is the better song IMO. I can only hope to see Axl doing something like that, it would be amazing.
I agree with Indiana Rose. I guess CD will be something more like Zep with new trends, more Kashimir and less Mama Kin. But I'm pretty sure we'll hear a lot of Queen there too, as it's one of Axl's biggest influences.
Quote from: nesquick on July 05, 2005, 10:34:34 AM
I went to a radiohead show in Paris almost 2 years ago, that's not one of my favourite band but that was a great show. the guitar player and the bassist are amazing! This is a great band. Their music is quite special, it's not energizing Rock music like GN'R, but they have their own universe. However, it's pretty depressing music. Definitely. That's one of the bad point of this band. They are great in what they do, but this is special.
Thom Yorke is a great Live singer, however he doesn't have a lot of charisma/stage presence. He is not a beast on stage like Axl or Steven Tyler or any other monsters of Rock. He is pretty shy. Not explosive. But he was great though.
It could not work for you, but it's their style. Yorke never wanted to be a "rock star" like Tyler or Axl. His lyrics are depressing, and that's what the fans like it. Sorry if it's not your taste.
re-read what I said, I said it was a great band and that the show was great. my comment was positive.
Read again MY post. You said "pretty depressing music" as "one of the bad point of this band". Also, you said "pretty shy" and "not explosive", as if it wasn't meant to be like this.
Anyways, this thread is not about Radiohead itself.
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I would think that Axl would be very pleased if CD earned the respect from other musicians, fans, and critics on the same level as OKC. Radiohead has a huge following, sell well, and fill up arenas around the world, I don't think Axl would mind doing that.....maybe.
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IndiannaRose, interesting that you said you thought there would be a 'Kashmir' on CD. The first time I heard the words 'Big Guns" used, I immediately thought of Kashmir.
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So apparently Phil Anselmo rights crappy lryics u say.
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Gypsy Note:? I'm posting this here because IMO it sorta is on topic, or as we say at my job: "close enough for government work.
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It just so happens that in SPIN mags 20th Anniversary Special Issue they list their 100 Greatest Albums and 'OK Computer' is their #1 pick.? They (obviously) couldn't compare that album to 'Chinese Democracy' but their #18 pick is 'Appetite for Destruction'.? So here's their list and I included the write-ups on Radiohead, Guns N' Roses, and Tommy's former band The Replacements (whose album 'Tim' made the list at #32).
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chinese democracy will be the defining record of this decade, there is no doubt about it. even if the material doesn't live up to it's hype, the hype alone will carve it's way into rock and roll history.
rock n roll history as the biggest , longest running joke ever! Really though , if the material is shit then axk will never , ever live it down. If it sells slower then "Contraband" or any other VR album , he'll never live that down.
the critics/media will eat him alive , forcing him further into seclusion then ever.
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Quote from: Saul on July 05, 2005, 09:43:29 PM
Quote from: August 15th on July 04, 2005, 03:05:34 PM
chinese democracy will be the defining record of this decade, there is no doubt about it. even if the material doesn't live up to it's hype, the hype alone will carve it's way into rock and roll history.
rock n roll history as the biggest , longest running joke ever! Really though , if the material is shit then axk will never , ever live it down. If it sells slower then "Contraband" or any other VR album , he'll never live that down.
the critics/media will eat him alive , forcing him further into seclusion then ever.
I agree with that. This album is not the defining moment of rock n roll, but the defining moment of Axl's life: as the ultimate comeback rocker or the ultimate goat. Alot is on the line.
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Quote from: Saul on July 05, 2005, 09:43:29 PM
Quote from: August 15th on July 04, 2005, 03:05:34 PM
chinese democracy will be the defining record of this decade, there is no doubt about it. even if the material doesn't live up to it's hype, the hype alone will carve it's way into rock and roll history.
rock n roll history as the biggest , longest running joke ever! Really though , if the material is shit then axk will never , ever live it down. If it sells slower then "Contraband" or any other VR album , he'll never live that down.
the critics/media will eat him alive , forcing him further into seclusion then ever.
I agree with that. This album is not the defining moment of rock n roll, but the defining moment of Axl's life: as the ultimate comeback rocker or the ultimate goat. Alot is on the line.
And you just have to realize that unless this album IS something very very very special , like an album you only get once , maybe twice a lifetime , unless it's that good you know the journalists allready have their reviews written. They've been written , for years. They just need the album to fill in the few blanks now empty on the review , like track names , musicans .. probably even down to album art.
All will be under the finest of microscopes , only because it's "been so long" .
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