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« on: July 01, 2005, 12:45:25 PM »

I'm talking about the part at the very end of the song when Axl yells and he starts soloing...I am assuming that is Buckethead (due to the shredding? ok)?

My main question, if that is Buckethead, is can the other GnR guitarists play that part? Would they have to change the song if they can't pull it off? I don't know much about them, and I certainly don't doubt them...But I know of Buckethead's skills and that part is extremely fast.
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« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2005, 01:07:10 PM »

I'm talking about the part at the very end of the song when Axl yells and he starts soloing...I am assuming that is Buckethead (due to the shredding? ok)?

My main question, if that is Buckethead, is can the other GnR guitarists play that part? Would they have to change the song if they can't pull it off? I don't know much about them, and I certainly don't doubt them...But I know of Buckethead's skills and that part is extremely fast.

That was an old demo we heard.  Buckets part could have been erased by now.
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« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2005, 01:40:08 PM »

Since the first time I heard IRS, I've always though the same thing: the song kicks-ass, but I see one weak point in it (and just one): the Buckethead "without heart and soul" shredd guitar solo at the end. No feeling, boring, too fast and not melodious. My friend would have made a better guitar solo. Buckethead is the weakest point on that song. the rest of the band is amazing, the rythm section is  Shocked and Axl is phenomenal.
the Robin's short guitar solo (first one) is really cool, I like it.
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« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2005, 01:47:17 PM »

yeah that's definately Bucket.
I love that solo!
and no, I really really doubt Richard or Robin can pull of solos like that.
they have probably been erased. and if they stay on the record, Robin or Richard will probably improvise on them in live situations.
they might have put new solos over Buckets stuff though, I doubt Richard has done it, since it seems like it's been long since he was in the studio with GN'R. Robin on the other hand..who knows what he's been up to.

I hope Bucketheads stuff stay on the record! yes
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« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2005, 01:51:38 PM »

that solo could've had more feeling to it, yes. shredding isn't always good.
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« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2005, 01:52:34 PM »

oh yeah last thing: Tommy is an amazing bassist. Everytime I heard a new GN'R song (IRS and the blues) I notice how great his bass lines are.
That guy is fucking great!! ok
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« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2005, 02:06:32 PM »

I for once didnt like BHs solo in a song. It felt out of place.
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« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2005, 02:12:47 PM »

I didn't mind it too much. I should have contained more variation on the main melody of the song, but since this is a demo, it is possible that this was just a temporary solo to fill in the gap. Who knows. The scream leading in to the solo though is impeccable.
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« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2005, 02:39:21 PM »

The solo fit the song perfectly. ok
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« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2005, 02:56:48 PM »

I like Robins solo part better than BHs in IRS
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« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2005, 03:16:20 PM »

The solo fit the song perfectly. ok

I agree with you...

I really don't know why some people have this problem with fast solos...This solo HAVE FELLING...just because this solo is a fast one, doesn't mean that it can't have felling...

The solo is great, at least I like it...I just don't know how it'll gonna work live, without BH who get to do this solo? I don't think that Robin or Richard can do it...I don't know, it just don't seems like their way to play...
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« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2005, 04:30:05 PM »

 Someone said Buckethead's parts cant really be replicated. I think you're wrong. Remember that guitarist of the band Living Colour? That guy could kick some ass!! Remember that solo from 'Cult of Personality'? One of the most memorable solos of the 80's. Although I remember an interview where Slash commented on it and he said the solo is pure studio, it cant sound like that live. Although I never heard Living Colour live to know if Slash was right or not.
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« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2005, 04:57:19 PM »

Someone said Buckethead's parts cant really be replicated. I think you're wrong. Remember that guitarist of the band Living Colour? That guy could kick some ass!! Remember that solo from 'Cult of Personality'? One of the most memorable solos of the 80's. Although I remember an interview where Slash commented on it and he said the solo is pure studio, it cant sound like that live. Although I never heard Living Colour live to know if Slash was right or not.
That would be Vernon Reid, and yes, hes an incredible player
Highly unlikely he'd come on board given the two bands histories however
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« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2005, 05:03:46 PM »

Jimmy, highly unlikely?? Damn! You mean that guy still hasn't gotten over the 'One in a Million' fiasco? LMAO! He needs to get over it, cause if he would, an interesting opportunity might present itself.
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« Reply #14 on: July 01, 2005, 05:11:28 PM »

I like Bucket's solo, really don't have a problem with that.
I guess we could hear Richard doing this solo live, I really think he's able to play it.
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« Reply #15 on: July 01, 2005, 05:19:32 PM »

I like Bucket's solo, really don't have a problem with that.
I guess we could hear Richard doing this solo live, I really think he's able to play it.
yes he is, but Richard is a much more bluesier guitarist than buckethead. Listen to his stuff ('dead again, dead man), it sounds very Classic-Rock and even Western sometimes. Richard makes me think to a melting pot between jeff beck, slash, and ZZ Top, with a touch of hanz zimmer.
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« Reply #16 on: July 01, 2005, 08:02:15 PM »

I like Bucket's solo, really don't have a problem with that.
I guess we could hear Richard doing this solo live, I really think he's able to play it.
yes he is, but Richard is a much more bluesier guitarist than buckethead. Listen to his stuff ('dead again, dead man), it sounds very Classic-Rock and even Western sometimes. Richard makes me think to a melting pot between jeff beck, slash, and ZZ Top, with a touch of hanz zimmer.


Surprisingly Richard had a very difficult time with the Slash's NR solo; Buckethead, though, completely nailed the outro. People here can label Bucket whatever they want, but the difference in talent level between Bucket and the Richard/Robin combo outweighs any of the differences in style.
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« Reply #17 on: July 01, 2005, 08:48:01 PM »

this song is so great, even though it's just a shitty demo it's a small sample of what's to come. we're witnessing something huge here, that's for sure. smoking only axl can make songs like this, beats the hell out of everything in rock today. smoking
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« Reply #18 on: July 01, 2005, 10:17:47 PM »

This solo is so amazing... Yeah GN'R musicians are (were? crying) great. Buckethead plays with his soul don't believe BH haters? Wink drool

Since the first time I heard IRS, I've always though the same thing: the song kicks-ass, but I see one weak point in it (and just one): the Buckethead "without heart and soul" shredd guitar solo at the end. No feeling, boring, too fast and not melodious. My friend would have made a better guitar solo.

Yeah come on I will speak to Axl about your friend.
Don't quote "without heart and soul": you try to make this sentence a common saying but you create it, they are your own words. Perhaps some jackass share this opinion yeah  hihi
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« Reply #19 on: July 02, 2005, 02:37:13 AM »

so august 15th and dave-gnfr2k are also "jasckass" I guess for you too...as well as plenty of others non BH fans.
Continue to insult other boardmembers, and maybe a day or another you'll be banned? ok

oh yeah and for my friend listen to what he is capable of: http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0WDSEESC7VOD22X87AFV6I15UL
You see, it's not that difficult to find a guitar player with more "soul and heart" in his guitar playing than BH, even a 20 years old teenager amateur can do better. Well at least that's what I think and I am intelligent enough not to treat other boardmembers of "jackass" if they don't agree with me. unfortunately, "intelligent" is a word you don't know...because you are not. peace
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