Wrestling...thats right, Wrestling!

[Hammy]

Gnrfan, we know your arsy but that's just cos the WWE Game is gettin' to you, we know, don't worry

As for Shawn Michaels not being a great mat wrestler, he may not be in Angle/Benoit/Hart's league, but few are.? He is still damn good, Wrestlemania 12, Iron Man Match with Bret Hart showed that, it proved to fans that he was more than just a "High Flyer", because, by standards back then he was probably one of the biggest risk takers, and if a young Shawn Michaels had come along in the Attitude Era climate i think there is a damn good chance he would of taken these risks, unfortunately his body got fucked, whenver you mentioning him being "Away" you may it sound like he was skiving, putting his feet up, like he chose to just disappear.

In all honesty BOTH guys in question are past their best.? Both were better many years ago and did better moves, HBK isn't what he was, but he's still damn good, and i understand you may not like the superman comeback, but come on dude, when he's taking the beat down nobody sells it better, he's had more blade jobs than i've had joints

As for people using Jeff Hardy's drug past against him, Shawn Michaels has had drug problems to so they were both unfortunate or stupid depending on how you look at it, in falling in to bad ways...

On a totally different subject.? I am lookin' forward to Vladimir Kozlov, i'm a sucker for a goofy gimmick, and the "I love Double Double E" cracks me up every time.....

[sweet616]

in IWF when jody flech wrestled he did some amazing high risk moves and all we could talk about was Joey Wrights elbow drop ?

you cant call wrestler for taking his time wile drug and alcohol abuse wile on a GnR forum

HBK realy can wrestle

Goldberg didnt dead lift Big Show...i would put forward the point that anyone in wwe could suplex show....not many could kick him in the jaw

AJ has 1 of the 3ways for wwe....talent!....he fails in the other to of a huge body or character
jeff has none of the above


people like jeff hardy are killing wrestling the same goes for people like jack evens and possably even PAC

there killing it because when HBK got into the buisness you needed to be talented and have charisma

now people need to go through tables

then they wanna see the tables on fire

next the tables will have needles infected by aids onthem!


the same goes with top rope moves

jeff did a swanton everyone is :O he did a flip

then someone comes a long does a 450...fuck the guy who did the flip

then 2flips....fuck the guy who did 1 and a half..2FLIPS!!!

then some one dies doin 3flips....people are like damn that wuda been awsome


some one does 3flips fuck!!!!!!!!!! 3fucking flips...fuck 2flips pissy

no 1 is ever gona do 7flips...so what happens when they get to 6?



yeah a forgot to mention before i posted it that the reason we where all talking about Joeys elbow drop was cos he hit his head on the light above lol

[slash666]

he's had more blade jobs than i've had joints

and thats alot of joints!?

On a totally different subject.? I am lookin' forward to Vladimir Kozlov, i'm a sucker for a goofy gimmick, and the "I love Double Double E" cracks me up every time.....

I love Kozlov already, whenever he talks i instantly think "its Ivan Drago from Rocky 3" lol, but man he better debut soon so i can get some points outta him in the WWE Singles game?

[Jim]

Ivan Drago is from Rocky 4, fool!

[Gnrfan]

no one can ever convince me that HBK is a good wrestler . . . Never! he just isn't. Bret made HBK look good in that Iron Man Match thats all.

HBK has the odd moment of brilliance . . thats it. just like Jeff. He may not be the best ever but he is an essential part of wrestling.

as far as WWE goes my favourite match of all time is Bulldog vs Hart at Summerslam but after that the TLC matches take it for me and thats why i like people like edge and jeff hardy coz to me they have put on matches that people still talk about.

I can honestly say the only match that sticks out as awesome with HBK was him and Razor in the ladder match and him vs taker in a cell. and thats my point. Him and jeff are similar in the sense that they need gimmicks to pull off great matches. as where people like RVD, Styles, Bret Hart, Angle etc dont they just go out and do what they do and its usually better than what HBK can produce

[Gnrfan]

getting off the HBK thing.

What does everyone make of this VKM thing coz i just think its stupid! It takes away from all the good TNA has to offer and because they are on it means we are deprieved of people like Alex Shelly and Jay Lethal on a regular basis.

Even Raven!

Does anyone else think that HHH's injury makes it nearly impossible to continue their ridiculas quest?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpx0FSyLPZQ&mode=related&search=

apprently they set a challenge and loads of fans turned up, and no one showed and the fans apprently got pissed.

[sweet616]

Voodoo KIN MAFIA!!! ALL THE WAY!!!

DX Sees And Desease

[Neemo]

is that Road Dogg and Billy Gunn in TnA?

and is the Abyss that Mideon Guy?

and is Runt actually Spike Dudley?

[Hammy]

is that Road Dogg and Billy Gunn in TnA?

Yes

and is the Abyss that Mideon Guy?

No

and is Runt actually Spike Dudley?

Yes

[Neemo]

Absyss is an old wrestler though? ihe looks familiar and who was that dealer dude in the poker game? he looks and sounds familiar too. I saw this for the first time last night BTW if you cant tell

[Hammy]

Absyss is an old wrestler though?

Nope.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abyss_%28wrestler%29

[Neemo]

thanks stoned....im amazed that Vince hasnt sued over his image...he looks a tiny bit like Mankind

[Hammy]

thanks stoned....im amazed that Vince hasnt sued over his image...he looks a tiny bit like Mankind

He's Mankind/Kane's lovechild

[Neemo]

thanks stoned....im amazed that Vince hasnt sued over his image...he looks a tiny bit like Mankind

He's Mankind/Kane's lovechild

is that the big secret that his manager threatened to reveal?

[BlowUpYourVideo]

I'm sure HHH and HBK have nothing else to do except fight those two.?

[Evolution]

Jeff cant talk!!!

neither can AJ Styles or Chris Beniot . . . maybe they suck too

AJ Styles can definately talk. His babyface promos and interview were pretty cheesy, but since his heel turn his mic work has been pretty damn good in my opinion. He has the spoilt brat face down perfectly. I would like to see TNA add more of him believing his own hype into the character. Tenay and West LOVED him all throughout 2005 and 2006 and put him over whenever he appeared, so why not have him use that. I like the way they left the door open to reform the tag team with Christopher Daniels too.

Absyss is an old wrestler though? ihe looks familiar and who was that dealer dude in the poker game? he looks and sounds familiar too. I saw this for the first time last night BTW if you cant tell

I think the dealer you mean is Balls Mahoney. He was an ECW original and actually wrestled briefly for the WWF as Xanta Claus.

[slash666]

Ivan Drago is from Rocky 4, fool!

my bad!

What does everyone make of this VKM thing coz i just think its stupid! It takes away from all the good TNA has to offer and because they are on it means we are deprieved of people like Alex Shelly and Jay Lethal on a regular basis.

Even Raven!

Does anyone else think that HHH's injury makes it nearly impossible to continue their ridiculas quest?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpx0FSyLPZQ&mode=related&search=

apprently they set a challenge and loads of fans turned up, and no one showed and the fans apprently got pissed.

i think its stupid what TNA are doing with VKM, its easy to tell there just doing it to get more publicity and try to make everyone hate DX & WWE. Also the fact that VKM didn't even show up themselves proves the fact they only talk the talk. Ever since TNA has started doing this has made me watch TNA less and made it obvious that they are getting more pathetic since Vince Russo went back to them

[Hammy]

no one can ever convince me that HBK is a good wrestler . . . Never! he just isn't. Bret made HBK look good in that Iron Man Match thats all.

He's had more than just that match, he doesn't need a gimmick match for a great performance and don't say it's all down to his opponent, there's only so much carrying you can do for 60 minutes, both guys worked their asses off.

He's also had numerous other great matches with no gimmick involved. ?Fighting Angle & Jericho at recent Wrestlemania's. ?Taking on Triple H on the last RAW show of the year a few years back. ?During the Gold Rush Tournament he and Shelton Benjamin probably had tv match of the year. ?Back during his first title reign he "Carried" Sid, Bulldog & Vader to some great matches and also fought Mankind at Mind Games in what Foley describes at the BEST match of HIS career. ?A guy who made a career out of doing hardcore crazy ass stunts and he picks a one-on-one match with HBK as his fave. ?I still think your issue is with HBK as a person and you are letting that cloud your judgement but we can agree to disagree i'm obviously never gonna convince you.

Since you like all the high flying stuff, Jeff Hardy.....eat your heart out

thanks stoned....im amazed that Vince hasnt sued over his image...he looks a tiny bit like Mankind

He's Mankind/Kane's lovechild

is that the big secret that his manager threatened to reveal?

Kind of, think 3 way and Paul Bearer

[sweet616]

it takes no skill to jump off a 20foot ladder...to do a wrist lock takes slightly more

[Malcolm]

The Angle/HBK matches they had I think were the 3 best matches I've ever seen...I remember watching one opf the matches at a buddies and weve never been on the edge of our seats or so into a match before