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Re: Wrestling...thats right, Wrestling!
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July 22, 2006, 12:27:49 PM »
Quote from: BlowUpYourVideo on July 22, 2006, 10:21:28 AM
ECW should just be put in charge of Paul Heyman
The WWE wouldn't let something like
that
happen.
And thats why its shit
I'm not saying don't monitor him and keep him in line. Just let ECW be his. Lets face it no matter who owns ECW it will always be Paul Heyman's Baby. Vince was so worried by ECW when it was at his prime and you had Taz and RVD as the World and TV champs respectivally, you'd think he'd understand to get the same out of it you need to put the same into it and the only person who knows what it takes is Paul Heyman
WWE are experts of giving you just enough without you ever really being entertained. They came unstuck when Eric Bischoff created the prime years of WCW with Goldberg at the helm and fans turned over. And it needed Austin to drag it back. . .But WWE dont have an Austin anymore they have nothing new if it goes wrong aside from Edge and Randy Orton. They will be forced to go back to HHH . . which is where we were 3 years ago
ECW was about the wrestling and spots.
WWE is about the story.
They have to find a solution in between IMO
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Quote from: bill213 on July 22, 2006, 12:20:24 PM
I'm so fucking sick of seeing John Cena vs. Edge that I've actually lost interest in Edge now.?
Edge deserves his run.
i think he is the best thing going for WWE right now.
Him and RVD should be leading it forward if RVD just wasn't such a drug head.
John Cena should just fuck right off. He's had his run its time to let Edge and Randy Orton take over the Raw reigns
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Quote from: Evolution on July 22, 2006, 12:26:04 PM
D show, we still get Heat remember?
haha don't forget AM Raw which is on Saturdays at like 2 am..............The F show!
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I guess that makes WWE Experience the E show?
Think how good a Edge Vs RVD Vs Orton title match would be.
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Quote from: Evolution on July 22, 2006, 12:36:11 PM
I guess that makes WWE Experience the E show??
Think how good a Edge Vs RVD Vs Orton title match would be.
Yeah. Its the Money match for me right now.
I mean there could be a title involved or not . . Who cares. You know your gonna get at least a 7 out of 10 match. I hate the fact that only the title matches get any real build up. Can you imagine those 3 kicking the crap out of each other for a month then a match to end it with. . . Thats worth tuning in for
I mean i watched AJ Styles vs Chrisopher Daniels last night from a video and it was the same sorta feeling you knew you were in for something special. Thats what those 3 guys give you.
Also Kurt Angle too is awesome. WWE/ECW just need some new exciting blood.
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July 22, 2006, 12:45:49 PM »
Yeah, why don't we get triple threats and four way title matches more often? You never really know who will win. Plus the more guys, the more quality exchanges as everyone isn't as tired.
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Quote from: Evolution on July 22, 2006, 12:36:11 PM
I guess that makes WWE Experience the E show??
Think how good a Edge Vs RVD Vs Orton title match would be.
As long as Cena's out of the title picture, any main event would be good!
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Imagine how hard its gonna be drafting for WWE Game IV...
Im definitely gonna take steroid testing under advisement when I make my selections.
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Quote from: Evolution on July 22, 2006, 12:45:49 PM
Yeah, why don't we get triple threats and four way title matches more often? You never really know who will win. Plus the more guys, the more quality exchanges as everyone isn't as tired.
Yeah i remember some ECW 3 ways that were obviously set up but was Awesome.
I remember when every match on a PPV had at least 2 weeks of build up. and proper build up at that.
Its just that WWE are short of real exciting wrestlers.
I mean they got rid of Jeff Hardy, Christian, Rhino and the Dudleys all of who would be awesome to watch. I remember Rhino Piledriving RVD through a table on the outside in ECW, Jeff Hardy Swanton bombing off a balcony at the Royal Rumble, Christian in the TLC matches taking A bubba bomb from the ladder and the 3D alone is more exciting than watching Kane wrestle . . why get rid of these people?
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July 22, 2006, 12:54:17 PM »
Just like WCW lost their backbone in Guerrero, Benoit, Jericho and Rey, WWE lost theirs in guys like Rhino, Dudleyz and Christian IMO.
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July 22, 2006, 01:00:06 PM »
It might be just me, but for some reason, I think Cena would make a good heel champion. If not the champ, at least turn him heel 'officially'. He'd probably get cheered more.
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July 22, 2006, 01:06:16 PM »
100% with you. His late 2003 run as heel was why he got cheered in the first place, The way he was so watered down in 2005 is why he gets booed.
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Quote from: Evolution on July 22, 2006, 12:54:17 PM
Just like WCW lost their backbone in Guerrero, Benoit, Jericho and Rey, WWE lost theirs in guys like Rhino, Dudleyz and Christian IMO.
I totally agree.
Its all well and good to have your "stars" and your future "hall of famers" i.e. Flair, Undertaker, HHH, HBK etc. But remind me when they were last in a match of the year. Probally Undertaker vs Mankind right . . . Because Mankind (Foley) agreed to be put through hell. Even though he lost it was Mankind's victory and wasn't long before they had to turn him face coz everyone respected him so much.
Its the other Wrestlers that i watch for the RVD's ,the Shelton Benjamin's, The Randy Orton's, The CM Punk's and The Edge's of this world.
I mean with all their History how great would and Edge vs Christian feud be. Especially for the title!
You always have to respect the people who brough the business where it is. But you also have to respect that they are only there coz someone stepped aside and put them there. Like Bret Hart did for Austin, Like HHH did for Batista and going way back like Hogan did for the Ultimate Warrior.
If these Ego's wont let these guys come through then the WWE is doomed. Coz the future right now is people like Edge, RVD, Rey, ?Orton, Batista, Angle and Cena (like it or not).
There are so many talented guys out there right now in all federations such as AJ Styles, Chris Sabin, CM Punk, Jodi Fliesch Aries, Matt Hardy, Jeff Hardy, Carlito, Sonjay Dutt, Christian, Shelton Benjamin, Rhino, Christopher Daniels and Samoan Joe to name a few. Imagine them all in the same place at the same time. Just Think what they can do. And if WWE have any ambition to really be No1 and i'm not just talking about TV ratings they should invest in these people as they are the future and not Undertaker, HHH, HBK and Flair. These people should be making these other guys stars like people did for them.
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He'd be good. But Edge is Awesome. you wanna see how to be a bonafide Heel champion. Go look at Jarrett in TNA. He's not the greatest wrestler or most entertaining. But he is an expert in how to be a Heel champion . . just like HHH
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July 22, 2006, 01:49:48 PM »
Show has officially replaced Khali in the match with Taker at the GAB...I think this may be the worst ppv ever
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Quote from: Malcolm on July 22, 2006, 01:49:48 PM
Show has officially replaced Khali in the match with Taker at the GAB...I think this may be the worst ppv ever
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i kinda like the big show. of all the big men hes alright. surely Undertaker can't beat the ECW champion tho.
This is where the roster split seems stupid.
ECW should invade or do something like that
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Quote from: Malcolm on July 22, 2006, 01:49:48 PM
Show has officially replaced Khali in the match with Taker at the GAB...I think this may be the worst ppv ever
Nah, it would be the worst if
Khali
was still in it
On a serious note though, it ain't that bad.
Regal
vs
Finlay
, if given enough time will be a classic.
Rey
vs
King Booker
should be a solid match.
The
Tag Title
match has 4 amazing talents so that should rule.
Word is
Helms
will be defending his
Cruiserweight Title
to.
In all honesty, the 3 people who have been cut from the ppv, would of had much worse matches than the ones set up now.....
Big Show
is a poor worker but he's ten times the guy
Khali
is.
Lashley
was easily gonna be the poorest worker in the
Triple Threat
.
And as for
Mark Henry
.....do i really need to comment on him?
As for stars
WWE
'Let Go'. ?
Jeff Hardy
fucked himself up, he's so much of an unreliable wreck even
TNA
won't touch him. ?
Team 3-D
are stale, i'll admit they would be good for the tag division but the big E would be better off creating new ones,
Dudleyz
are waaaay past it. ?As for
Christian
, the dude quit, whether
TNA
was there or not he said he was leaving. ?He was frustrated, true, but he's said after all these years the schedule was getting too much. ?Sayin' that he was so over in
WWE
they should of put the Title on him.
And on the subject of who the future of the company is, lumping
Angle
in there with those other names, i can't see it. ?The dude is dependany on painkillers, doctors in the past have told him to retire, due to his addiction he's been suspended for 30 day, question is if they are tryin' to help him, by making him quit taking all these painkillers, what does that say for his career, from what's been said about his body, it's a wreck now, he could not wrestle without them right? ?So if they fix his addiction/dependancy don't they kill his career?
What annoys me the most about the business today is all the big novelty matches going to the main event stars only.
The
Tag Title/IC Title
have been contested through
Ladder Matches, TLC, Cage
....
...The midcard got
Tables Matches
,
Hardcore Brawls
, you know gimmick matches to settle feuds. ?Now it's only the top guys.
Imagine if
Londrick
vs
The Pitbulls
was a
Ladder
or
Cage
Match, with those talents so much is possible....
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As for stars
WWE
'Let Go'.
Jeff Hardy
fucked himself up, he's so much of an unreliable wreck even
TNA
won't touch him.
Team 3-D
are stale, i'll admit they would be good for the tag division but the big E would be better off creating new ones,
Dudleyz
are waaaay past it. As for
Christian
, the dude quit, whether
TNA
was there or not he said he was leaving. He was frustrated, true, but he's said after all these years the schedule was getting too much. Sayin' that he was so over in
WWE
they should of put the Title on him.
Christian Left haha. . . anyone would with his talent who is not given the respect he deserved. They threw him between the Tag and IC titles. He had no purpose. They could never seperate him from Edge and they saw that as a bad thing instead of embracing it and using to for an awesome feud down the line. WWE let him and Jericho leave (i know he had his music, but in a way he was forced) they just was not how Vince sees a champion. And now look whats happened Cena had it for ages . . What a joke after releasing two people who are ten times the perfomer.
The Dudleys are one of the elite teams of all time. They won, they lost but they were always No.1 and WWE still does not have team to compare to them. Just like the New Age Outlaws when they were on top they were good and tried to split them up and it lost them credibility and it was hard to go back.
Jeff Hardy is bad now but he wasn't that bad when he left and there was complete double standards in the promotion then. HHH can do what he wants but the lower card wrestlers couldn't. Thats why he isn't there. and since then he has got worse.
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What annoys me the most about the business today is all the big novelty matches going to the main event stars only.
The
Tag Title/IC Title
have been contested through
Ladder Matches, TLC, Cage
....
...The midcard got
Tables Matches
,
Hardcore Brawls
, you know gimmick matches to settle feuds. Now it's only the top guys.
Imagine if
Londrick
vs
The Pitbulls
was a
Ladder
or
Cage
Match, with those talents so much is possible....
Agree totally.
More build up is needed for matches and less feud spanning 2 or 3 PPV's also
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July 22, 2006, 02:40:46 PM »
Quote from: Gnrfan on July 22, 2006, 02:28:37 PM
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What annoys me the most about the business today is all the big novelty matches going to the main event stars only.
The
Tag Title/IC Title
have been contested through
Ladder Matches, TLC, Cage
....
...The midcard got
Tables Matches
,
Hardcore Brawls
, you know gimmick matches to settle feuds.? Now it's only the top guys.
Imagine if
Londrick
vs
The Pitbulls
was a
Ladder
or
Cage
Match, with those talents so much is possible....
Agree totally.
More build up is needed for matches and less feud spanning 2 or 3 PPV's also
Yeah, i've been watching wrestling since
'91/92
and i've always preferred the midcard feuds, the
IC Title
always gave the best matches, i've never cared for the main event in the same way. These days though you don't have a choice they force it down your throat. I wish the other belts would be given meaning and time, they actually have the talent but they misuse it.
Great American Bash
.....
Pitbulls
vs
Londrick
vs
Hardy Boyz
(Rumours are going 'bout a reunion...)
TLC Match
Hardcore Brawl
Finlay
vs
William Regal
(Imagine the brutality...)
Have a
Cruiserweight Title 4-Way
....
Psichosis
vs
Super Crazy
vs
Gregory Helms
vs
Chavo Guerrero
and have it go 20 minutes...
World Title Match
:
Batista
vs
Rey Mysterio
vs
King Booker
Special Punjabi Prison Tag Match
(Pick Your Partner....)
Undertaker
&
Kane
vs
Big Show
&
Ken Kennedy
Live Heat Match:
Scotty 2 Hotty
,
Funaki
&
Tatanka
vs
Sylvan
,
Simon Dean
&
Jake Gymini
(The one who isn't injured...
)
Now if they'd of gone with that and started the build a while ago that would be a Fuckin' Show!
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July 22, 2006, 03:01:07 PM »
Er, what the fuck happened with RVD?
Man im so behind its unbelievable...and, Stoned, is that AJ video from the 1PW event i went too?
AJ rules.
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Quote from: Stoned on July 22, 2006, 02:16:13 PM
As for stars
WWE
'Let Go'. ?
Jeff Hardy
fucked himself up, he's so much of an unreliable wreck even
TNA
won't touch him.
He still has some form of a contract with TNA although they don't use him now due to what you mentioned. And he still ranks among their top current merchandise earners to this day.
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