Wrestling...thats right, Wrestling!

[Hammy]

raw seems very unspontaneous with jim ross especially, they need to stop going so overboard like every small thing is the greatest thing in the world and shit. JR. and Lawlers enthusiasm seems forced and not genuine

i fully expected goldberg and hbk vs hhh and orton as the main event, i dont know why hbk wasnt their, of course that is the wwe these days, feuds are just sort of thrown together and the build up sucks

remember 4 or 5 years ago wrestling from top to bottom of the card had an interesting storyline, now they have one or two main storylines and throw together a bunch of filler matches for everyone else, they have missed many opportunities but thats why its going down hill.

of course the brand extension has hurt wrestling, imagine it all lumped together, it would be pretty kick ass now wouldnt it?

u know what i blame the demise of wcw and now the wwe on? they started over doing it, they over exposed themselves

when all we had was monday nitro and raw is war it kicked so much ass, then they add thunder and smackdown and it sped shit up and it just burnt wrestling out

if they had stuck to the 2 hour one show a week format i think both wrestlings would still be big today, they over did it!

Put simply WWE has become WCW too many wrestlers and too many older over the hill talents being pushed

[Izzy]

That brand extension killed it for me....i stopped watching it straight afterwards.....i still keep up to date on it but rarely watch it now except the ppv's

the storylines used to be wkd..with great build up now its so boring..but hey i'm off to see it in Brum next month so i will start getting into it again.

[America's Least Wanted]

Does anyone know who sings Eric Bischoff's theme and what the title of the track is?

[IraqiDemocracy]

Thanks to BlackJack Brown for the following tidbits:

J.R. & Lawler vs Snow & Coach:

The winners of the match will become the new broadcast team on ''Raw.'' I hear Snow and Coach might pull the upset and take over the headsets on a temporary basis. Stone Cold and Eric Bischoff will handle the announcing of the match.

Look for Rikishi to make his return to the WWE in October or November.

Shelton Benjamin will be taking some time off to have arthroscopic knee surgery. Charlie Haas will compete in singles action until Benjamin is ready to return.

Hulk Hogan could be looking to follow Roddy Piper to the NWA TNA promotion. Hogan recently said he had been in negotiations with the Jarrett family and could be looking to debut with the company sometime before the new year.

[Hammy]

Thanks to BlackJack Brown for the following tidbits:

J.R. & Lawler vs Snow & Coach:

The winners of the match will become the new broadcast team on ''Raw.'' I hear Snow and Coach might pull the upset and take over the headsets on a temporary basis. Stone Cold and Eric Bischoff will handle the announcing of the match.

Look for Rikishi to make his return to the WWE in October or November.

Shelton Benjamin will be taking some time off to have arthroscopic knee surgery. Charlie Haas will compete in singles action until Benjamin is ready to return.

Hulk Hogan could be looking to follow Roddy Piper to the NWA TNA promotion. Hogan recently said he had been in negotiations with the Jarrett family and could be looking to debut with the company sometime before the new year.

Snow and Coach rule have them as the announce team permanently!!!!!!!!! As for Hogan who gives a fuck?

[IraqiDemocracy]

saw this information posted elsewhere, so I thought I'd post it here as well.


Taken from highspots.com

WWE Bloodbath: Wrestling's Most Incredible Steel Cage Matches

Special Double DVD Set!

The steel cage: It's used as a barrier and as a weapon. It keeps the competitors inside and the interference outside. The Steel Cage Match is the most brutal form of confrontation.

Here are highlights from fifteen of the best steel cage matches in wrestling history. Never-before-seen on DVD. They'll definitely leave their mark! 2-disc DVD set contains:

Bob Backlund vs. Pat Patterson (1979)
Bruno Sammartino vs. Larry Zbyszko (1980)
Bob Backlund vs. Jimmy Snuka (1980)
Jimmy Snuka vs. Don Muraco (1983)
Magnum TA vs. Tully Blanchard (1985)
Hulk Hogan vs. Paul Orndorff (1987)
Ric Flair vs. Ronnie Garvin (1987)
Bret Hart vs. Owen Hart (1994)
Isaac Yankem vs. Bret Hart (1995)
Triple H vs. Mankind (1997)
Triple H vs. The Rock (1999)
Stone Cold Steve Austin vs. Mr. McMahon (1999)
Edge & Christian vs. Hardy Boyz (2000)
Kurt Angle vs. Chris Benoit (2001)
Edge vs. Kurt Angle (2002)
DVD Extras

Over 3.5 hours of bonus material - 11 Complete Matches.

Bruno Sammartino vs. Ivan Koloff (1975)
Bob Backlund vs. Stan Hansen (1981)
Ric Flair vs. Dusty Rhodes (1986)
Rock 'n' Roll Express vs. Andersons (1986)
Shawn Michaels vs. Marty Jannetty (1993)

Running Time: 5 hours 30 minutes

Release date: October 28th
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Well, looks like I'm getting this one, it looks great. I've still yet to buy the Shawn Michaels and Rey Mysterio DVDs.

[D]

i dont think ill get unforgiven tonight, ill just read the results, if anyone gets it though write a review on here please!

that tully blanchard vs magnum t.a. cage match from 1985 was brutal as hell, it was an i quit match magnum wins by sticking a piece of wood in tully's head, it rocks!

[Hammy]

i dont think ill get unforgiven tonight, ill just read the results, if anyone gets it though write a review on here please!

that tully blanchard vs magnum t.a. cage match from 1985 was brutal as hell, it was an i quit match magnum wins by sticking a piece of wood in tully's head, it rocks!

I'll write a review tomorrow dude over here in the UK it is free I'm looking forward to HBK vs Orton that has classic written all over it

[IraqiDemocracy]

September 21, 2003
As you know, the plan is for Goldberg to finally end Triple H's long title reign by winning tonight at Unforgiven. This will allow HHH to take some time off to nurse his injury, marry Stephanie, and due some work for Blade: Trinity.
However, there is some fear with this match. It's no secret that HHH likes to work long matches, and since he is expected to drop the title, he obviously had some say in the match. The main problem is that Goldberg tends to be overexposed in long matches, and the crowd has turned on him in the past. The backstage dilemma for a while is how to book this in a way where Triple H looks credible, yet fans remain interested in Goldberg's title win, giving him the reaction he needs to be a strong champion.

[chineseilusions]

September 21, 2003
As you know, the plan is for Goldberg to finally end Triple H's long title reign by winning tonight at Unforgiven. This will allow HHH to take some time off to nurse his injury, marry Stephanie, and due some work for Blade: Trinity.
However, there is some fear with this match. It's no secret that HHH likes to work long matches, and since he is expected to drop the title, he obviously had some say in the match. The main problem is that Goldberg tends to be overexposed in long matches, and the crowd has turned on him in the past. The backstage dilemma for a while is how to book this in a way where Triple H looks credible, yet fans remain interested in Goldberg's title win, giving him the reaction he needs to be a strong champion.

It's about time for that fucker to lose the tittle.
BTW: what is your source for this information

[D]

September 21, 2003
As you know, the plan is for Goldberg to finally end Triple H's long title reign by winning tonight at Unforgiven. This will allow HHH to take some time off to nurse his injury, marry Stephanie, and due some work for Blade: Trinity.
However, there is some fear with this match. It's no secret that HHH likes to work long matches, and since he is expected to drop the title, he obviously had some say in the match. The main problem is that Goldberg tends to be overexposed in long matches, and the crowd has turned on him in the past. The backstage dilemma for a while is how to book this in a way where Triple H looks credible, yet fans remain interested in Goldberg's title win, giving him the reaction he needs to be a strong champion.

It's about time for that fucker to lose the tittle.
BTW: what is your source for this information

cool stonemaids, i read the results it sounded like it kicked ass but give me the review. i read this on www.prowrestling.com chinese, their news is very accurate and they dont post bullshit rumors, most of their news is dead on accurate

[IraqiDemocracy]

These Are the matches that are rumored to be on the new Ric Flair DVD Box Set      , Most will probably be on considering its 3 discs (  )

WWE The Ultimate Ric Flair Collection - 3 Disc DVD
Release Date: November 18, 2003

Rumored Matches To be on DVDs:

Flair vs. Buddy Rodgers: Nature Boy vs. Nature Boy.
Flair vs. Steamboat for U.S. Title (Mid-Atlantic).
Flair as an NWA Tag Champ in the 70's.
Flair vs. Rhodes (1981, World Title #1)
Flair vs. Kerry Von Erich (X-Mas '82 cage match)
Flair vs. Race (Starrcade '83)
Flair vs. Steamboat (1984)
Flair vs. Magnum T.A. (TBS, June-July '85)
Flair vs. Nikita Koloff (Omni, Sept. '85, post match beatdown of Dusty Rhodes defining moment of Horsemen and turned Flair heel for 4 years)
Beatdown of either/both Dusty Rhodes and/or Ricky Morton
Flair vs. Rhodes (Flair regains World Title Summer '86)
Flair vs. Barry Windham (1987)
Flair vs. Sting (Clash I. Only the third best match on the card, but began the continuing Sting/Flair feud)
Flair vs. Luger (1988, either GAB or Starrcade)
Flair vs. Steamboat Trilogy '89
Flair vs. Funk (GAB '89)
Flair getting the garbage bag tied around his head by Funk on Clash of Champions (September '89)
Funk's Grill where Funk told kids not to tie garbage bags around the heads of their siblings (hell, it was funny, ok)
Flair vs. Funk (I Quit Match Clash Nov. '89)
Either Wargames '87 and/or '91
Flair/Arn Anderson vs. Doom (Havoc '90)
Nothing, I repeat nothing, involving the Black Scorpion
Flair vs. Bobby Eaton (Clash, June '91, Flair's last televised match in WCW before jump)
vignettes of Bobby Heenan proclaiming Flair as the Real World Champion
If the have a multi series DVD, Rumble '92.
Flair vs. Savage (Mania VIII)
Flair vs. Hennig (Loser Leave Town Match, RAW '93)
Nothing involving Shockmaster debuting on Flair for the Gold.
Flair/Anderson vs. Hollywood Blondes
Flair vs. Vader (Starrcade '93)
Flair vs. Steamboat (1994, both the PPV and TBS match)
Flair vs. Arn Anderson (1995)
Flair/Sting vs. Arn Anderson/Brian Pillman (1995)
Flair pinning Hogan cleanly in the middle of the ring without interference of any type (January, 1996 Nitro)
Arn Anderson pinning Hogan cleanly in the middle of the ring without interference of any type (February, 1996 Nitro)
Flair vs. Savage (Feb. '96 PPV)
Flair vs. Eddy Guerrero (August '96 PPV)



Credit: ProWrestlingScoops

I hope they put a few of his promos on there, but anyway

It's 3 DVDs.

It's Flair.

There's nothing to argue about  here.

[Hammy]

Ok here is my review of RAW presents Unforgiven:

Dudleys vs La Resistance:

Nice opening surprisingly losts of action and it was great to see new tag champs at last only question looking at RAW's tag division is what new feuds can be made im guessing it will be with Mark Henry and Rodney Mack.......Oh the joy (please not sarcasm)

Test vs Steiner:

As a match this was quite entertaining only problem was Test won meaning Steiner is his bitch and the feud goes on.........nice finish though Stacy hit Steiner with a steel chair by accident (it was too she did not turn heel)

HBK vs Randy Orton:

Why this was so low down on the card i don't know, ok this match had way too much Flair interference other than that it was good HBK had the match won with SCM but Flair put Orton's foot on the rope ref noticed after the match restarted it Orton got brass knucks off ref and clocked HBK on the sly and got the win therefore HBK was still shown to be better but lost giving the 'rub' to Orton................goddamn i love HBK he should of won

Gail Kim & Molly Holly vs Lita and Trish:

Did not pay much attention in this i think if i remember Lita and Trish won but who cares............sorry if anyone here does..............im sure i missed a classic

Kane vs Shane:

HOLY SHIT this match was way better than i expected losts of cool bumps if anyone had ever seen the match with Vince and Shane at WM X-7 remember the finish with the jump across the ring into vince and the steel chair well Shane did this to Kane with steel steps.........lots of other cool bumps to got to see it to believe it but then at the end Shane jumped off the top of the titantron area that kinda height anyway Kane moved and Shane went through the stage but unlike wat u would expect his body did not disappear (like u expect with mats undernear) the body is just lodged in the wooden stage area with a hole where Shane fell through trust me it looked sick fucking ace....unsurprisingly Shane never got back up and Kane won.....WOOOOOO!!

RVD vs Christian vs Jericho:

Nice fast paced match with Christian making a successful defence with a little help from his belt when RVD went to hit the Five Star Frog Splash.......nice to see the title not flying around

Coach & Al vs JR and The King:

Well the match wasn't much but thanks to Jericho interfering to piss of Austin Coach & Al won and we have new RAW announcers WOOOOOOO!!!!!........would be even better if i believed it was permanent but we all know it won't be a lard ass JR and puppy obsessed King will be back soon...................damn!!!!!!!!!

Goldberg vs HHH:

This match was pretty boring IMO it felt like it dragged on for ever don't know how long it was.............probably quite short who knows...........well Goldberg won.............all i can say is damn!!! he sucks major ass

Hope you all enjoyed my review and as Tony Schivone would say........i'm just about outta time

[D]

thanks stoned!!!!

i like jericho pissin off austin their bit on raw a couple weeks ago was funnier than hell, so hopefully that will continue and be entertaining, im not to sure about coach and al snow announcing raw, i hope they do the fuckin job and dont bury it with stupid announcing, although i am sick of jim ross

goldberg's the champ whoopeeeee! goldberg licks balls, by far one of the worst wrestlers, how bout they bury wrestling completely and start a kane vs goldberg feud, oh god damn how fuckin boring would this shit be!

oh well at least i have jericho!

[chineseilusions]

September 21, 2003
As you know, the plan is for Goldberg to finally end Triple H's long title reign by winning tonight at Unforgiven. This will allow HHH to take some time off to nurse his injury, marry Stephanie, and due some work for Blade: Trinity.
However, there is some fear with this match. It's no secret that HHH likes to work long matches, and since he is expected to drop the title, he obviously had some say in the match. The main problem is that Goldberg tends to be overexposed in long matches, and the crowd has turned on him in the past. The backstage dilemma for a while is how to book this in a way where Triple H looks credible, yet fans remain interested in Goldberg's title win, giving him the reaction he needs to be a strong champion.

It's about time for that fucker to lose the tittle.
BTW: what is your source for this information

cool stonemaids, i read the results it sounded like it kicked ass but give me the review. i read this on www.prowrestling.com chinese, their news is very accurate and they dont post bullshit rumors, most of their news is dead on accurate

Thanks .D  I will have to check that site

[D]

cool chinese u will like the site, lots of news etc.

raw was awesome tonight jericho is gettin ready to face goldberg as i type this but so far the show has been great, the opening segment was a little weird, austin comin out and stuff, its pretty clear that goldberg cant carry a show, which makes me wonder why he is champ, their are only 5 wrestlers right now on raw who can carry the show, the rock, who of course is gone to hollywood, stone cold who of course isnt wrestling, triple h who is takin time off, jericho, and hbk, so i truly think jericho should be champ and not just cause he is my fav wrestler.

rvd vs christian was a great match, i cant wait till the ladder match

the womens match was good for what it was worth, i usually turn to monday night football during the women's match, i caught the end, it was ok

evolution vs jindrax, maven and gage/cage? was cool, i dont remember many of the matches for some reason, oh yeah the hurricane rosey tag match was ok, i turned it during tommy dreamer vs mark henry

i totally love coach and al snow as announcers to bad they will lose the announcing duties next week, am i the only one who think they are 100 times better than jr and lawler? never thought id say that but they are,

the kane shane o mac hospital segment was cool so was the steiner test backstage bit the scsa, jericho,christian bit was funny the clb thing was cool

well im off to watch the main event, no way jericho will win but i can tell u before watchin the match, jericho was awesome goldberg was his normal skilless self, so till next week!

[GNR-Rules]

Yeah no offense to those fans who like Triple H, but he really did have the title for a long time. I mean back in September of 2002 He was "Handed" the Title. He did not even earn it and he lost it 1 time to Shawn Michaels who did not even pin him to win it and lost it right back to Triple H like 2 weeks later. Finally he lost it and its about time. Wrestling really was getting crappy because of him. I'm glad his title reign is over..

[Hammy]

Yeah no offense to those fans who like Triple H, but he really did have the title for a long time. I mean back in September of 2002 He was "Handed" the Title. He did not even earn it and he lost it 1 time to Shawn Michaels who did not even pin him to win it and lost it right back to Triple H like 2 weeks later. Finally he lost it and its about time. Wrestling really was getting crappy because of him. I'm glad his title reign is over..

HBK did pin HHH to win it in the Elimination Chamber at Survivor Series 2002

[Izzy]

No dissin of Triple H.....he is the only wrestler who i so much as give a damn about, the rest have the charisma of...er.......

[Hammy]

HHH's long title reign gave the World Title some much needed value and meaning rather than just a title passed around on a monthly basis and i mean who was he to drop it to Booker T or RVD seriously overated guys IMO, i mean on RAW the only ones worthy are HBK (who can only wrestle part time) and Jericho.  I say well done to HHH and as for Goldberg well i hope is reign is short maybe Jericho could end it but i suspect it will be Kane (who is at the bst he has ever been) or HHH upon his return from filming scenes for Blade 3 and marrying Steph