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Unplanned RKO?
How would you even do that?
...after all, its all fake and just about every move requires the other guys help
The injury might be the reason he was fired - maybe the Doc's said he'd be on the shelf for another long spell and WWE just despaired
...seems like politics though
Will be a huge TNA signing
FOR FUCKS SAKE TNA GET LASHLEY AND KENNEDY NOW
TNA could be on the verge of the biggest break they've ever had - poor Slash might cry, might need to offer my shoulder
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Okay, the Suicide/Daniels match was botched at the end - but we had a damn fine match
Kaz isnt the Suicide that Daniels was though (which is odd, because Kaz was superb) - and go back to your rapelling u bastard!
The main event was superb (a four way with NO Triple H syndrome...not sure i can remember another 4 way without that...)
..the ending was daft
Angle should have pinned Jarrett for the title AND control and play the MEM/NWO angle to its logical conclusion. Sting as leader makes little sense as a face leader of a heel faction
...unless Sting becomes heel. A pure evil Sting and a face Angle might be intresting.....
The Booker v Styles match was good, but the ending was odd too. I think Booker was big enough to take a loss
I'm hoping they use the Legends title to its full potential - (not a WWE IC title), have the Legenfs title as the heavyweight title for TNA, leaving the main belt for the PPVs, would be a useful tool to increase the stakes of a main event while the TNA title is preserved
...last thing u want is either title to become a the WCW/World Heavyweight title, where even the commentatots say its secondary to the WWE title...(though offer no explanation as to why....)
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Shame Kennedy was released, I met him once and he's a really cool guy. It's unfortunate that he was cursed with the 'injury bug' before his career even got started. I'll reserve further judgement until more details are released and confirmed.
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I don't think
Kennedy
's value ever fully recovered from his comments during the
Benoit
incident.
WWE is clean, I am clean, we are much better now, guys like
Mero
don't know what they are saying.
The evil doctor prescribing the steroids has a list of names released, Kennedy is on there and he fails the wellness test, oops.
What made it so dumb is he felt this need to speak up and get involved and be a nominated spokesman for the company.
It must be politics though, if it was just his injury prone nature surely they would just sack
Jerry Lawler
and have him as the new
RAW
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Cutting footage of the MEM during an X Division title match
...kinda says something about TNA's priorities....
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Quote from: Izzy on May 30, 2009, 04:08:14 PM
Cutting footage of the MEM during an X Division title match
...kinda says something about TNA's priorities....
The MEM stuff is just a mess these days, just has no general direction and is no better off than 6 months ago yet they prioritise it higher than one of their highest rated more talented divisions. I think thats where its ultimately going to go all wrong for TNA, they should be more focused on creating new stars (say what you want but WWE are actually doing it) but yet they've killed what ever momentum either AJ or Joe had in favour of the old timers like Foley who really has no right being champion at this stage in TNA.
Aswell there meant to be pushing the British Invasion yet they can't seem to get onto the shows or get beat by almost jobber-like put together teams. While its in the state its in TNA just has no chance whatsoever in being a threat to WWE. Thats not any sort of bias talking its just the actuality of things.
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I have the disadvantage of being an adult - I cant get anything from children's TV (even if for some perverse reason I wanted to)
WWE is now inherantly boring - it has no choice but to be superficial and tame, it now works within a straight jacket
...and thats not how good drama operates
If you can get something from it still - then, fair enough
WWE could perhaps compensate if its matches were superb - but they fight at a slow tempo and every match outcome is obvious (and it is obvious) plus they've banned all the moves (at Sacrifice - we saw a PILEDRIVER, an honest to god piledriver)
I'm not sure whats left for adults (we dont even get the shameful lingerie matches anymore)....
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May 31, 2009, 01:52:08 PM »
I agree completely with that, its the same way I feel but I would just class that about Raw. It seems that Raw is just the show aimed at kids whereas SD & ECW are very appealing to adults because for the most part the focus is on the wrestling itself and the feuds are less childish. The only people I really like on Raw are Hardy, Regal, Kingston & MVP. HBK aswell but hes not active.
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Kennedy's release so soon after his return is wierd. This is a guy somebody had some faith in. This is a guy that has gotten so many chances. He had the big fued with undertaker on smackdown and got hurt shortly after. He won the MITB and sure to be victim of a big push and than gets hurt again. They put him as Vince's son in what would have been a huge story line that summer but than he gets popped for steroids.
I am a big fan of Ken Kennedy. I am extremely dissappointed he got released less than week after his return. Something had to of happened. Either that injury is big or somebody with pull doesn't like him. Maybe he got in a fight backstage or something.
I just find it strange that a guy that has gotten so many chances is let go less than a week after his return. Fuck wwe, what are you thinking. This guy has 10 times the charisma of Randy Orton. I still think this guy could have been that heel that the crowd started loving and gets turned to the biggest face in the company. I think his mic skills and his personality are leagues above some of the current top talent in the wwe, even on a bad night.
If their smart TNA will sign this guy. If he can stay healthy, he will be a top talent.
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Watching the first X Division title match from 2002
Oh my frakking hell
Its absolutely insane - think current x division matches but including all the absurd and dangerous moves that have been banned. I have no idea how anyone survived
I'm loving it
TNA focus on the X Division again - dont make me piledrive u Jarrett!!
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May 31, 2009, 06:10:08 PM »
Quote from: Izzy on May 31, 2009, 04:10:32 PM
Watching the first X Division title match from 2002
Oh my frakking hell
Its absolutely insane - think current x division matches but including all the absurd and dangerous moves that have been banned. I have no idea how anyone survived
I'm loving it
TNA focus on the X Division again - dont make me piledrive u Jarrett!!
I watched that on TNA Epics too last week. The break placement is unbelieveably bad however, I had to switch off after the first one because all flow was ruined.
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Theres a video up on Kennedy's facebook of him moving his wrists around...I thought it was kinda funny.
Provided a link to the story posted, also has the video of kennedy.
http://www.impactwrestling.com/Content.aspx?ID=26804
Source: PWInsider
- Many people close to the situation believe that Kennedy's release was a decision made by Vince McMahon after Kennedy almost injured WWE Champion Randy Orton in the main event on last week's RAW.
Kennedy hit Orton with a back suplex that dropped Orton hard on the collar bone that he broke a few years back. Orton started pounding the mat in anger and later in the match, dropped Kennedy with an RKO that was a bit hard, causing Kennedy to grab at his wrist after hitting the mat.
The belief is that Orton complained about Kennedy's work in the match backstage. Sources say Vince McMahon agreed with Orton and it was seen as a "last strike" on Kennedy.
As seen above, Kennedy posted a video online earlier showing that his wrists were just fine. Sources say that Kennedy is "furious" about the reports of his injury. However, Kennedy isn't saying anything at all about the reported situation with Randy Orton.
As far as TNA is concerned, there appears to be some sort of interest but Kennedy can't work there until this September without waiving his 90-day no compete clause from his WWE contract.
I wonder if it was not an isolated incident with Kennedy and botching moves. I know shit happens that sometimes you cannot control. But i find it hard to believe that Kennedy would be let go if this was an isolated incident. There was prolly some kind of backstage incident between these two that got him fired. Hopefully he'll talk some about it.
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Quote from: High_times on May 31, 2009, 10:06:31 PM
Hopefully he'll talk some about it.
Or he could respond like
Ariel
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Batista
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I agree with high_times that the botched suplex likely wasn't the only reasons he got released. I mean, the nature of wrestling where you
lift guys up and slam them on the mat and such
kinda suggests that some accidents are gonna happen. If they fired guys for botched moves, there'd have been lots more "future endeavours" being undertaken right now...
Khali slammed a guy once who died, didn't he? And that was
before
he got signed by WWE!
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Quote from: BlowUpYourVideo on June 01, 2009, 07:02:16 AM
Khali slammed a guy once who died, didn't he? And that was
before
he got signed by WWE!
So it doesn't count
Remember, stuff outside the
WWE Universe
has no baring on what happens in it. If you were a star in
WCW
,
TNA
or anywhere else, chances are you will be renamed, repackaged and pushed down the card in no time. Just ask
Marcus Cor Von
and
Braden Walker
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....although
CM Punk
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Ziggler
and
Jericho
are teaming up this week....break down the walls!
Enjoyed
Impact
this week for the first time in a few weeks.
Raven
looked in great shape (best in years) and it looks like we have the beginnings of another little group,
Stevie Richards
, Raven and
Daffney
.
Shane Douglas
looked bloated, maybe I'm wrong though and he will be alright in the ring.
Kip James
' firing amused me, for some reason, probably just me liking most things Kip James, hopefully this isn't him signing off to be a road agent, I'm wanting a return as a singles star (I know, never going to happen).
Victoria
looked good to, nice to see her, she was wasted in her last few years in WWE, and she seems to have the psycho grin back as well.
An
Eric Young
heel turn, based on him being pissed at never getting a chance and being screwed over etc. and so on. I'm sure
Russo
would argue its been a 2 year plan....
never been too keen on him I think there are others with much more potential/upside, but he did need a change.
Watching Smackdown, its scary how over
R-Truth
and
The Great Khali
are
I read something this week about how WWE have this list of things they don't/can't do anymore because
Linda Mcmahon
is, well I forget but she's doing something PG and political anyway. And one of the things was no threatening violence (which sounds quite laughable). Shows how much these "NEWZ" sites know though. On Smackdown you have Jericho talking to
Mysterio
about smashing his head in with a steel chair (although maybe that doesn't count), maybe they mean
Samoa Joe
like, telling
Kurt Angle
he is going to kill him, I just found that hilarious, much like the
Deaner
vs.
Williams
Ladder Match which was surprisingly competitive, but fun, although whats with the recent spate of banging out Ladder Matches so often, especially if its for a naff one like
Bolt
vs.
Wilde
.
And I know its over a week since, but
Umaga
speaking english all of a sudden, that was just dumb. The commentators didn't even sound shocked, I at least expected a comedy;
"Well it looks like Umaga has been learning english in his time away, JR"
comment from
Grisham
.
The Hart Dynasty
has mucho potential, but with
Nattie
doing all the talking I wonder if thats because the other two have little to no charisma.
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Quote from: Hammy on June 01, 2009, 11:51:06 AM
I read something this week about how WWE have this list of things they don't/can't do anymore because
Linda Mcmahon
is, well I forget but she's doing something PG and political anyway.
I wonder has that got to do with their new policy of announcers not being able to refer to the referee's by their actual names.
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^Or constantly saying "skull" instead of "head". Seriously, whenever Orton boots someone in the cranium, it's almost always the "skull" and not the "head"....
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Linda is on the board of education in Conneticut
...apparently this is much much much more important than the company
- and they are afraid ''enemies'' (Nazis? Martians?) will use WWE against her to ruin her new career (CEO of WWE anyone...)
In any other company the shareholders would demand she resigned (the idea, the very idea u could put a hobby above your role as CEO!) but Vince and Co have like 95% of the voting stock
I dont wish harm on anyone - but i kinda want...something to happen to the McMahons that means they cant ever have any involvement in WWE again - maybe thye could go the moon for....a million years?
WWE needs new management
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is it bad that I'd rather watch Mick Foley wrestle the cardboard Rocky over 50 percent of WWE matches?
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