Wrestling...thats right, Wrestling!

[D]

I just don't think Vince has that much respect for Dreamer to be honest.

WM is a time for making stars. U have two of your top up and coming stars: Swagger and Bourne face off which would be a great feud for years to come.



Its a damn shame John Morrison isn't in MITB. I mean of all the bullshit and stupid WWE shit over the years, this ranks up there with some of their dumbest

[AtariLegend]

I think it's greater sacrildege that C.M. Punk has to go through it again, it's means he's just another Kane... someone to pass the time.

[Hammy]

I just don't think Vince has that much respect for Dreamer to be honest.

Very true.  I've seen relatively little of the original ECW and have been brought up by the people at Titan Towers to believe Dreamer is a fat jobber who whines about being the heart and soul of a dead company.

Its a damn shame John Morrison isn't in MITB. I mean of all the bullshit and stupid WWE shit over the years, this ranks up there with some of their dumbest

Not if it means for once its because they want to put some much needed worth in their Tag Titles

[Sober_times]

As a person who watched and loved alot of the original ECW I would perfer not to see WWE's version of it. It sucks, plain and simple. And though Swagger may have some potential a ECW title match for me is a sad moment and a piss break. 

[Gnrfan]

Swagger has to face someone. I say Evan Bourne vs Swagger with hopefully Bourne taking the strap

I personally don't think that Bourne should take the title so quickly after returning. I'd quite like to see a sustained feud between Bourne and Swagger although i have a feeling Bourne might end up on RAW fighting for the IC title

[D]

Makes u wonder why Vince didn't bring back "WCW" and have it on Tuesday Nights

[Hammy]

Makes u wonder why Vince didn't bring back "WCW" and have it on Tuesday Nights

Tony Schiavone and Matt Striker.

Sign up some Cruserweights and Buff Bagwell and I'm sold. 

[Izzy]

Bring back WCW

...have Smackdown rebrand as WCW....

Hmmm...i wonder

[Hammy]

Bring back WCW

...have Smackdown rebrand as WCW....

Hmmm...i wonder

To make it WCW, to define it as such, you would need some originals and many of the aspects that made WCW....well WCW.  Bring in wrestlers from Japan, focus on Cruiserweights, 3 man announce team, away from ringside, cut away during matches to the backstage area, have interviews on the entrance ramp, no Titantron, generic rock themes as entrance music and having a seemingly endless roster where half the guys only show up once every 2 months.  At least after watching WCW Sep '95 to Jan '96 that's pretty much the gist of things, and for the most part, Yeti aside, its lots of fun.

[Hammy]

Wrestler Dave Batista of World Wrestling Entertainment has this week filmed a Neighbours cameo whilst in Australia to promote July's WWE tour. Dave will appear in scenes with wrestling fans Toadie (Ryan Moloney) and Callum (Morgan Baker) in an episode set to go to air in June in Australia.

I had quit watching the show, but for comedy gold like this, I might have to make an exception and watch episode, although we won't get it here until near the end of the year.

[pilferk]

I think we can put any talk of Hogan being at WM to bed.....

A recent MSNBC article, about some verbal sparring with his wife's divorce lawyer, was on crutches due to recent back surgery.

[Izzy]

Raw this week was about as....Attitude as you can get

...and utterly ruined by being so attitude

It was about as absurd, about as Russo, as you can get

The magic cameras where everywhere - amazingly even waiting outside for Orton to crash through! Triple H never noticed they were there, or he might have...well...asked them for assistance?

Since when do security cameras so small as to be invisible now record in HD and sound?

I know i'm the ultimate hypocrite - i moan about modern wrestling, and yet when they regress I moan even more!

What I'm really after is a fusion of old and the new - push out the boat but dont forget the common sense (perhaps the proverbial anchor?)

...and enough with the magic camera!!!

ps. the bird with Orton - i have never seen such a blank expression, not much going on behind those eyes!

[Hammy]

Its an effort, I know, I struggle, but we've said it so many times, you HAVE to put your brain on hold, trying to use sense and reasoning with wrestling will ruin it.  Go back and re-watch the Attitude Era, with the wrong mindset its not half as fun.  With a lot you just have to laugh, I mean the whole Playboy Wife screaming and Orton's "Don't open the door" had me in stitches, pure comedy.  I mean if we really got into realism and such, at least Triple H was arrested, I mean Samoa Joe attacks Scott Steiner with a knife, while the cops busy themselves arresting AJ for...wait for it....theft, but once again thats over analyzing things.

That Vickie/Big Show camera stuff is about the best you can get and I can accept that stuff quite easily, reminds me of the classic GTV, that was a great tool for a multitude of feuds up and down the card, although we never did find out the culprit behind it all did we? I'm saying Al Snow....or maybe Head 

[RancidPunx]

R.I.P. Andrew "TEST" Martin

PWInsider.com is sad to report that former WWE star Andrew "Test" Martin was found dead in his apartment in Tampa, Florida at the age of 33, just four days shy of his 34th birthday. We don't have much in the way of details at this time. Tampa area authorities have declined to officially confirm it is Martin they found but word within the industry has been widespread the last few hours.

Originally born in Whitby, Ontario Canada, Martin was discovered randomly by then-top WWF star Bret Hart in a restaurant. Recognizing the potential of a 6'6', 300 pounder, Hart offered to train Martin and help break him into the business. Martin quit his jobs and trained for eight months under Hart and Leo Burke in Calgary. At the same time, Hart was helping several other young Canadian talents including future WWE champion Edge, and future NWA champion Christian Cage, among others.

He was quickly signed to one of the early WWF developmental deals in the late 1990s, Martin would be brought in for camps under former NWA World champion Dory Funk Jr. and Dr. Tom Prichard. The camps included names like Edge, Christian, Kurt Angle, Steve Corino, a young Teddy Hart, Shawn Stasiak, Devon (Crowbar) Storm, and Tiger Ali Singh, among others, so there was a huge talent wealth there at the time.

In his 1998 debut on WWF television, Martin appeared as a roadie for heavy metal band Motley Crue during a musical performance where he "removed" a fan that had gotten on stage. He was quickly made a member of Vince McMahon's Corporation under the ring name "Test", which was short for Testosterone. He made his PPV debut for the company at the 1999 Royal Rumble, competing in that match and made his Wrestlemania debut at Mania 15, teaming with D'Lo Brown while challenging then-WWF Tag Team champions Owen Hart and Jeff Jarrett in Hart's last Mania bout before his death several months later.

After turning babyface, Martin was scripted into a relationship with a young, babyface Stephanie McMahon that was exposed via G-TV, a series of mysterious cameras capturing WWF talents in out of the ring, backstage situations (sort of a predecessor r to today's paparazzi, TMZ type "journalism"). The relationship led to an angry Shane McMahon feuding with Test, which culminated at Summerslam 1999 in Chicago with a "Love Her or Leave Her" match where Test had to beat McMahon in order to be accepted. Inside the ring, it was probably the high point of his career as the two had a hell of a brawl. Stephanie and Test's on-screen romance continued, complete with engagement and a wedding live on Raw.

As is the case with all WWE weddings, there was a twist and in hindsight, it was the most successful one for any wedding angle the company has ever produced. The storyline that top heel Triple H had drugged Stephanie the night before and gotten her to marry him in Las Vegas, revealed on the Titantron in the middle of the ceremony live on Monday Night Raw. The storyline from that point on focused on HHH vs. Vince McMahon, with Stephanie turning heel on her father, having been in on the plot. The angle later turned to real life as Triple H is for all intents and purposes married into the company.

From a storyline standpoint, Martin was left out of the top mix of the company's roster and never got as high in the hierarchy as he did during that era. He was repackaged as heel, teaming with Albert (current New Japan star Giant Bernard) as T&A, managed by the debuting Trish Stratus, who was just breaking into the company as a former fitness model who legitimately was a huge wrestling fan before being signed. After the team broke up, Martin was back as a babyface and won the European championship from William Regal in 2001. He dropped the title to Eddie Guerrero at Wrestlemania 17 in Houston after interference from the other Radicalz.

[RancidPunx]

Martin ended up a heel yet again as part of the WCW/ECW Alliance later that year, holding both the WWE and WCW Tag Team belts with Booker T as well as the WWE Intercontinental championship during that period. At the 2001 Survivor Series, Martin lost the IC belt to Edge, who unified it with the WCW United States championship. He also had a short run with the hot potato Hardcore championship. With the idea that the Alliance vs. WWE war was coming to an end and those who lost could be fired, Test went on to insert himself into an "Immunity" Battle Royal, which he won with the gimmick being that he couldn't be let go by WWE for a year.

In 2002, he bounced around a number of different storyline gimmicks. He was part of the Un-Americans with Lance Storm, Christian and William Regal. He was Stacy Keibler's charge as she tried to change his image and claim his fans were his "Testicles" in an all-time so bad it was good idea. He went to the finals of that year's King of the Ring tournament, later losing to eventual winner and current UFC champion Brock Lesnar. The relationship with Keibler eventually turned into a real life one for the couple. After she left the company and became an ABC darling via "Dancing With the Stars", Martin would later write online how proud he was of her success and that he often told her while they were dating that she would go on to do something bigger than professional wrestling.

Scott Steiner was brought into the company. Despite being one of the top names in WCW when it imploded in 2001, Steiner was sent to the mid-card after a feud with then WWE champion Triple H and put into a tag team with Martin. The two ended up at odds of Keibler's services but later reunited with the idea she was their slave.

Martin ended up out of action with a neck injury and was forced to undergo spinal fusion surgery that would keep him out of action for at least a year. In a move that was heavily criticized at the time, World Wrestling Entertainment released Martin on 11/1/04, four months after the surgery and at least eight months before he would be able to return. At the time, WWE's John Laurinaitis promised to give Martin a look when he was ready, but the very idea that Martin, who had spent his entire professional career with the company and had broken his neck working there, could be fired as he recovered, sent a shockwave through the company's roster.

Exactly a year later, Martin discussed the release while writing about the November 2005 passing of former WWE champion Eddie Guerrero, commenting, "Look at me. I break my neck in the ring had to have two discs taken out of my neck and a steel plate put in and was told at the time by Johnny Ace when I asked if my job would be in jeopardy, 'We don't fire people with injuries like that.' Hmm, that's funny, because two months after surgery I got fired because I wasn't working. My seven years of busting my *** for them and putting over the boss's son while my foot was broken in a cast was all forgotten about.When Johnny Ace called me and told me they were releasing me - which of course he put all the heat on Vince - I said to him, 'What kind of message are you sending the boys that if they get hurt they are going to get fired?' So all the guys who don't want to lose their jobs, what do they do? Pop a couple of Percocet or Vicodin and mask the pain because god forbid they say they are hurt and lose their job. I'm not going to name any names, but I know at least a dozen or so wrestlers who are addicted to these things for that very reason. Get hurt, lose your job. I just turned 30, my back aches everyday, I have a metal plate in my neck, and yes I got in the business at the right time and have a lot of nice things, but is it all worth it? You guys don't see the ugly side of this business. Yes, wrestling is entertainment, but the bumps and bruises are real and sometimes they don't go away. So think long and hard before you get in this business because I can tell you first hand that if you're not working or making them money they don't give a ****."

Martin returned to the ring in the summer of 2005, working for Nu-Wrestling in Italy, which was being booked by former WWE star Rikishi Phatu. He made several convention appearances as well.

During this period, Eddie Guerrero died in a Minnesota hotel room due to an enlarged heart giving out on him, a complication from the drugs he had taken during his career. Martin, completely removed from WWE at the time, wrote, "I'm actually wondering who's next? Who's next to die? I can think of at least 15 to 20 people who have died from various things - mostly prescription pain killers. For all you wanna be wrestlers who wanna get in this business, especially now when WWE doesn't pay you anymore than you would make at a 9 to 5 job, let me break some things down for you. When I started wrestling I had never seen or heard of Vicodin or Percocet or Soma. How come so many wrestlers die from these medications and football players and hockey players don't? The answer is simple - wrestlers, especially WWE wrestlers, work five days a week all year long taking bump after bump in the ring. A doctor explained it to me like this: Every time you take a fall in the ring it's like getting rear-ended by a car going 20 mph, so how many bumps in the ring a night do you take? Multiply that by how many times a week you work all year long. That's a hell of a lot of whiplash and pain. I can remember hearing a conversation from some unnamed WWE head guys talking about how this certain person needs to go to rehab but they couldn't send him because he was to important to the show. That's the reality people that is how we are treated."

Despite being extremely critical of WWE's use of Eddie Guerrero's name after his death, including one blog where he said it wanted to "make me puke", Martin was still brought back to the WWE fold. He was signed to a new deal in March 2006 and placed into the relaunched ECW brand later that year as a heel. He most notably feuded with then-ECW champion Bobby Lashley late in the year going into 2007. After being defeated by Lashley clean several times, he disappeared from television.

Despite his earlier writings about the drug scene in the wrestling business, Martin ended up suspended under the WWE Wellness Policy and was released shortly afterwards. At the time, Martin claimed it was a mutual release that he asked the company for.

After departing WWE, Martin made several appearances for TNA in the summer of 2007, teaming with Sting and Abyss in a a winning bout against AJ Styles, Christian and Tomko. With a feeling his huge physique was neon sign for the impending United States Congress investigation into the business following the Benoit family tragedy and also a feeling that his attitude didn't jibe well with the TNA locker room, he wasn't signed and was never brought back.

Through his Myspace.com account, Martin would often write about different views on the wrestling business and was critical of what WWE's developmental program had turned into after it was moved to Florida. In one blog, he complained that too many of the students would care too much about partying and not enough about studying tapes and learning the business. One talent signed to WWE who was stationed in FCW at the time responded that other than dropping Kelly Kelly (who he was dating) off, Martin had never actually come to the facility.

Martin was arrested for a DUI in April 2008. The police report at the time claimed Martin failed a field sobriety test and that he continued to fall asleep in the arresting officer's vehicle after being taken into custody. At the time, The Tampa Tribune noted that he had a history of traffic violations but Martin responded, "Considering I don't drink alcohol or do drugs I don't know how the DUI is going to stand." When the newspaper asked Martin if he was still a wrestler, he commented that it was something he "didn't want to get into."

As noted, in recent years, Martin had been dating WWE Raw Diva Kelly Kelly and at one point, he publicly praised her for saving his life when he had a medical emergency, believed by some to have been an OD. According to those I spoke to tonight, the two had split recently, about 6-8 weeks back. Although Martin had pushed that he was retiring from the business as far back as December 2007, he was still making appearances overseas. As recently as last month, he worked in Japan on shows promoted by Big Van Vader and was scheduled to leave this week for a European tour of several countries.

Our deepest condolences to Martin's family, friends and fans at this time.

[D]

WOW, that really sucks. RIP

[Gnrfan]

Thats Horrible.

Still a disgrace he got fired while injured. That should never happen. Something tells me that was to do with more with his ex than anything else

[Hammy]

R.I.P

 

This is his blog he wrote a few days ago, seemed to be in a really good place:

Hey all! I just got back from Tokoyo Japan. I have been to Japan several times but this was by far the best trip there for a number of reasons. First I must thank Mr. Aso who treated me beyond first class and is a total gentleman as well as a great human being himself. My trip there was first class all the way. Thanks to Mr. Ena for making my flight the best flight I had ever been on. Mr. Aso flew me first class on United airlines who I must thank the ladies on board, who kept feeding me steak and chicken every two hours. It ended up being about a 24 hour travel day. When I landed I was greeted by Mr. Yabe another kind and stand up man.

We chatted for a bit and waited for Vader. For those of you who do not know Leon (Vader) he is a total gentleman. I met Leon about ten years ago when I was training at Brets house he was kind to me then and was nothing but a gentleman to me now and we became good friends on this trip. Leon is a stand up guy and I want to thank him as well for a wonderfull trip. Mr. Aso put us up in the Keio Plaza hotel which is one of the nicest hotels in tokoyo. I want to thank Mr.Tiger Kihara who is one of the funniest guys I have met and a master at wrestling impressions and kept me laughing the whole time. Thanks to Golds gym who took great care of me there.

I worked my first match with Lance Hoyt. Lance is green but has a lot of promise and under the right guidance can have a great match because he is a good athlete. He needs to be in the WWE were I think he could learn and reach full potential...thanks Lance. My second match was with a Japanese shooter named Nagai{hopefully I spelled that right} A totally diferant style but we had a great match together. He works almost as stiff as I do...lol. I was very humbled by the reception from the Japanese fans. The Japanese people are so respectfull you can't help but love it there. I loved Japan for so many reasons and hope to makee it my wrestling home.

Japan is so beautifull and full of things to do, I could see myself living there it was that much fun. Thanks again to Mr. Aso your a real gentleman and number one in my books. On March 16th, I will be heading to Europe for two weeks in France, Sweden and Belgum. This is with the crew from Ireland. These guys hold a special place in my heart because they stuck by me when I was going thru some hard times and we all ended up becoming good friends. Great guys and fantastic people to work for, from Martin, to Mick, Joe, Jamie, Grant, Patty, Justin Shape, Lizzy, Anne, Ken, the whole crew are just great and I'm looking forward to this trip. That's all for now..talk to you soon Andrew

[AtariLegend]

Respects and sympathies to his friend and family.

His part in the Stephanie-Triple H "1999-2000" can't be forgot.

It was utterly amazing, that his feud with Triple H got brushed over; and only mention once on a Raw skit a few years afterwards, when Test phoned the police on Triple H.... 

He also played a bigger part in getting Shane McMahon over as a wrestler; better than "X-Pac"

...And can't forget "TNA'".

[Izzy]

Wow - he must have been juiced out of his mind - dead at 33, thats shocking!

God knows what he must have been injecting himself with - wrestlers die young, but thats very young