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Quote from: Axl4Life on February 17, 2009, 09:29:49 AM
Looks like Austin will be the legend that will put Jericho in his place.
Would still prefer Rourke though.
I don't see Austin getting back in the ring...JR and Austin himself (I think I remember right...) have both said it would be near impossible for him to wrestle again. Maybe he's giving it one last go for this WM25, but I couldn't see him risking his health especially with his back and neck and everything.
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A super
PPV
was followed by a really good
RAW
which helped get things rolling for
'Mania
.
Edge
and
Cena
had a great bit of interaction to start the show....
....seeing
HBK
back to his happy, comical self was good to see "Don't you just hate it when people do that..."
And the prospect of him and
Undertaker
Triple H
looked stupid channeling the spirit of the
Ultimate Warrior
(I say spirit, don't worry, Warrior isn't dead), but the prospect of him and
Orton
, one on one, I think they'll pull it out of the bag.
Roddy Piper
gave his best promo in years, clearly he wasn't acting much it really was all from the heart and
Jericho
's heel persona continues to soar...
As
Gnrfan
said, we have one hell of a good card on our hands.
With....
Edge
vs
John Cena
,
Triple H
vs
Randy Orton
,
Jeff Hardy
vs
Matt Hardy
,
Undertaker
vs
Shawn Michaels
and
Chris Jericho
vs "A Legend". For some reason the prospect of
Jack Swagger
vs
Christian
just seems a bit "Meh", I guess it just pales in comparison to everything else so far.
So with a
Money In The Bank
a given, assuming they try and put eight people in, who gets the spots, at the moment many midcard to top line people are available:
John Morrison
The Miz
Vladimir Kozlov
Umaga
R-Truth
The Great Khali
Shelton Benjamin
MVP
Kane
John Bradshaw Layfield
Finlay
CM Punk
Cody Rhodes
Ted Dibiase
Kofi Kingston
The Brian Kendrick
Rey Mysterio
William Regal
Evan Bourne
Mr. Kennedy
Big Show
Carlito
Out of those, for me I could cut it down to: Miz, Morrison, MVP, Benjamin, Mysterio, Punk, Dibiase, Rhodes, Bourne and Kennedy. Maybe Dibiase and Rhodes will remain lackeys and the other eight will be the competitors.
Even with eight of those in
MITB
and maybe a
Tag Title
and/or a
US/IC Title
match, there are many established names who look set for the
Pre-Show Battle Royal
, especially since we are bound to have a
Divas
contest.
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February 17, 2009, 05:43:41 PM »
According to a well-placed source in WWE, the following matches are being talked about for WrestleMania 25. As always during WrestleMania season, things can change at the drop of a dime, but these are the current plans:
- Hulk Hogan vs. John Cena
- Triple H vs. Randy Orton (WWE Championship Match)
- Edge vs. Big Show (WWE World Heavyweight Championship Match)
- Shawn Michaels vs. Undertaker
- Chris Jericho vs. Mickey Rourke
- Jeff Hardy vs. Matt Hardy
Regarding the possibility of Hogan vs. Cena at WrestleMania, it has not yet been confirmed, but feelers have been sent Hogan's way about doing the match.
Source: PW Mania
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February 17, 2009, 05:49:03 PM »
I taking it MITB is a given.
Man Edge vs Big Show would really suck on such a good card.
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February 17, 2009, 06:03:02 PM »
No Way Out was excellent - only the second PPV I would rate as better than disgraceful in the last 12 months
Twists and turns galore - Edge losing..and winning the title in the same night, cracks me up
I was surprised to see Triple H take the title - after so many defeats at Mania I felt certain he'd get his big win this year
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February 17, 2009, 06:04:57 PM »
Quote from: Hammy on February 17, 2009, 04:39:35 PM
A super
PPV
was followed by a really good
RAW
which helped get things rolling for
'Mania
.
Edge
and
Cena
had a great bit of interaction to start the show....
....seeing
HBK
back to his happy, comical self was good to see "Don't you just hate it when people do that..."
And the prospect of him and
Undertaker
Triple H
looked stupid channeling the spirit of the
Ultimate Warrior
(I say spirit, don't worry, Warrior isn't dead), but the prospect of him and
Orton
, one on one, I think they'll pull it out of the bag.
Roddy Piper
gave his best promo in years, clearly he wasn't acting much it really was all from the heart and
Jericho
's heel persona continues to soar...
As
Gnrfan
said, we have one hell of a good card on our hands.
With....
Edge
vs
John Cena
,
Triple H
vs
Randy Orton
,
Jeff Hardy
vs
Matt Hardy
,
Undertaker
vs
Shawn Michaels
and
Chris Jericho
vs "A Legend". For some reason the prospect of
Jack Swagger
vs
Christian
just seems a bit "Meh", I guess it just pales in comparison to everything else so far.
So with a
Money In The Bank
a given, assuming they try and put eight people in, who gets the spots, at the moment many midcard to top line people are available:
John Morrison
The Miz
Vladimir Kozlov
Umaga
R-Truth
The Great Khali
Shelton Benjamin
MVP
Kane
John Bradshaw Layfield
Finlay
CM Punk
Cody Rhodes
Ted Dibiase
Kofi Kingston
The Brian Kendrick
Rey Mysterio
William Regal
Evan Bourne
Mr. Kennedy
Big Show
Carlito
Out of those, for me I could cut it down to: Miz, Morrison, MVP, Benjamin, Mysterio, Punk, Dibiase, Rhodes, Bourne and Kennedy. Maybe Dibiase and Rhodes will remain lackeys and the other eight will be the competitors.
Even with eight of those in
MITB
and maybe a
Tag Title
and/or a
US/IC Title
match, there are many established names who look set for the
Pre-Show Battle Royal
, especially since we are bound to have a
Divas
contest.
I'm Praying for at least one Tag Title Match. I think
Miz N Morrison
are the premier tag team in wwe but who'd they'd face i have no idea. Maybe a few teams seeing as we have so many 1on1's.
I'd Like to see
Punk
,
Shelton
,
Bourne
,
Kennedy
,
Umaga
,
Kofi
&
Rey
in the MITB although i'm pretty sure that
Koslov
will be in there somewhere.
My fear is that
Umaga
,
Koslov
,
Mark Henry
,
Kane
,
Big Show
,
Khali
&
JBL
don't look to be fitting in to Mania at this point and you can be sure that some of them will be on there and my fear is they might put 2 or 3 in the MITB and ruin it.
I'd also like to see the
Santino
invitational.... in which he'd get pinned by every HOF finished off by
Austin
Quote from: Axl4Life on February 17, 2009, 05:43:41 PM
According to a well-placed source in WWE, the following matches are being talked about for WrestleMania 25. As always during WrestleMania season, things can change at the drop of a dime, but these are the current plans:
- Hulk Hogan vs. John Cena
- Edge vs. Big Show (WWE World Heavyweight Championship Match)
Source: PW Mania
Hogan
vs
Cena
... personally i wouldn't want to see it although i'm sure the atmosphere would be buzzing. I would prefer to see
Cena
vs
Edge
. But
Edge
vs
Big Show
would be a horrible call IMO for Mania.
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February 17, 2009, 06:08:50 PM »
Edge v Big Show? Big Show shouldnt even be on the card - let alone main eventing for the title!
Cena v Hogan - face v face - never works
However,
Why not Hogan v Taker? That would be intresting at the very least
Triple H v Orton - argh, Orton is SO BORING
I dont want Triple H switching brands - i'm off to see Smackdown in April!!
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February 17, 2009, 06:15:27 PM »
Quote from: Izzy on February 17, 2009, 06:08:50 PM
Cena v Hogan - face v face - never works
If you think its gonna be equal fan support i think you'd be wrong. If it happens Cena will be booed with every punch he makes.
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Quote from: Izzy on February 17, 2009, 06:08:50 PM
Cena v Hogan - face v face - never works
Rock vs Hogan
Jeff Hardy vs Triple H
These are the best two examples. Rock vs Hogan worked because of the amazing atmosphere. Hardy vs HHH worked because the wrestling was fantastic. I could list more but you get the point. Most things have the ability to work with the proper booking.
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Why not Hogan v Taker? That would be intresting at the very least
It's been done. It was terrible. Incase you need reminding.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWCT7rawj04
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Quote from: Axl4Life on February 17, 2009, 06:50:34 PM
I could list more but you get the point.
Hogan
vs
Warrior
'Mania VI
is an all time classic to, the atmosphere that face vs face battles have created over the years, superb!
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Quote from: Izzy on February 17, 2009, 06:08:50 PM
Cena v Hogan - face v face - never works
Cena vs Michaels & Taker vs Batista from WM23 called, they said your wrong.
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February 17, 2009, 10:46:27 PM »
Quote from: Hammy on February 17, 2009, 06:59:02 PM
Quote from: Axl4Life on February 17, 2009, 06:50:34 PM
I could list more but you get the point.
Hogan
vs
Warrior
'Mania VI
is an all time classic to, the atmosphere that face vs face battles have created over the years, superb!
Or otherwise! I know that I have mentioned it before, but Lesnar Goldberg was an absolute mess made fantastic by the crowd reaction.
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Edge/Big Show at WM? Really??
It does look like it'll be HHH/Orton and Edge/Cena, both matches we've seen before. WM main events are usually matches we haven't had before, but this year it looks like both of them will have been done before...
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Quote from: Izzy on February 17, 2009, 06:08:50 PM
Cena v Hogan - face v face - never works
Hogan vs. Rock at WM 18 might have had the greatest crowd response in the history of WM....yes I know they tried to push Hogan as a heel going into it, but nobody bought into it....it was face vs. face...and Hogan vs. Warrior had a great crowd reaction...then again it might just be the fans up in toronto that dig that sort of thing....in any event face vs. face COULD work if executed properly, but that is not the easiest thing to do....like I said Hogan vs. Rock was pretty much an accident
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Quote from: Izzy on February 17, 2009, 06:08:50 PM
Cena v Hogan - face v face - never works
Hogan vs. Rock at WM 18 might have had the greatest crowd response in the history of WM....yes I know they tried to push Hogan as a heel going into it, but nobody bought into it....it was face vs. face...and Hogan vs. Warrior had a great crowd reaction...then again it might just be the fans up in toronto that dig that sort of thing....in any event face vs. face COULD work if executed properly, but that is not the easiest thing to do....like I said Hogan vs. Rock was pretty much an accident
Hogan was a heel in that match
Crowd reaction alone doesnt make u a face or a heel - Triple H was cheered throughout his career as a heel
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Quote from: Izzy on February 18, 2009, 04:30:15 PM
Quote from: Bodhi on February 18, 2009, 04:26:21 PM
Quote from: Izzy on February 17, 2009, 06:08:50 PM
Cena v Hogan - face v face - never works
Hogan vs. Rock at WM 18 might have had the greatest crowd response in the history of WM....yes I know they tried to push Hogan as a heel going into it, but nobody bought into it....it was face vs. face...and Hogan vs. Warrior had a great crowd reaction...then again it might just be the fans up in toronto that dig that sort of thing....in any event face vs. face COULD work if executed properly, but that is not the easiest thing to do....like I said Hogan vs. Rock was pretty much an accident
Hogan was a heel in that match
Crowd reaction alone doesnt make u a face or a heel - Triple H was cheered throughout his career as a heel
I think what people are trying to say is that face vs face works when its a big occasion and the atmosphere is that good. Generally as a rule face vs heel works better. But this is Wrestlemania and i think when you have two massive stars like Cena and Hogan the occasion alone would make it work. But i'd still prefer to see Edge vs Cena,
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Quote from: Izzy on February 18, 2009, 04:30:15 PM
Quote from: Bodhi on February 18, 2009, 04:26:21 PM
Quote from: Izzy on February 17, 2009, 06:08:50 PM
Cena v Hogan - face v face - never works
Hogan vs. Rock at WM 18 might have had the greatest crowd response in the history of WM....yes I know they tried to push Hogan as a heel going into it, but nobody bought into it....it was face vs. face...and Hogan vs. Warrior had a great crowd reaction...then again it might just be the fans up in toronto that dig that sort of thing....in any event face vs. face COULD work if executed properly, but that is not the easiest thing to do....like I said Hogan vs. Rock was pretty much an accident
Hogan was a heel in that match
Crowd reaction alone doesnt make u a face or a heel - Triple H was cheered throughout his career as a heel
Everyone in Toronto was booing The Rock though.
Hogan may have been booked as a heel, but he sure was being cheered as if he were a face.
Ah but by that logic
Cena
's been a heel in many areas for years and years....
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Quote from: Hammy on February 20, 2009, 08:26:51 AM
Quote from: AxlsMainMan on February 20, 2009, 08:20:59 AM
Quote from: Izzy on February 18, 2009, 04:30:15 PM
Quote from: Bodhi on February 18, 2009, 04:26:21 PM
Quote from: Izzy on February 17, 2009, 06:08:50 PM
Cena v Hogan - face v face - never works
Hogan vs. Rock at WM 18 might have had the greatest crowd response in the history of WM....yes I know they tried to push Hogan as a heel going into it, but nobody bought into it....it was face vs. face...and Hogan vs. Warrior had a great crowd reaction...then again it might just be the fans up in toronto that dig that sort of thing....in any event face vs. face COULD work if executed properly, but that is not the easiest thing to do....like I said Hogan vs. Rock was pretty much an accident
Hogan was a heel in that match
Crowd reaction alone doesnt make u a face or a heel - Triple H was cheered throughout his career as a heel
Everyone in Toronto was booing The Rock though.
Hogan may have been booked as a heel, but he sure was being cheered as if he were a face.
Ah but by that logic
Cena
's been a heel in many areas for years and years....
All a heel really is is someone the audience hates, so yeah, Cena probably does constitute a heel for many people.
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Quote from: Hammy on February 20, 2009, 08:26:51 AM
Quote from: AxlsMainMan on February 20, 2009, 08:20:59 AM
Quote from: Izzy on February 18, 2009, 04:30:15 PM
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Quote from: Izzy on February 17, 2009, 06:08:50 PM
Cena v Hogan - face v face - never works
Hogan vs. Rock at WM 18 might have had the greatest crowd response in the history of WM....yes I know they tried to push Hogan as a heel going into it, but nobody bought into it....it was face vs. face...and Hogan vs. Warrior had a great crowd reaction...then again it might just be the fans up in toronto that dig that sort of thing....in any event face vs. face COULD work if executed properly, but that is not the easiest thing to do....like I said Hogan vs. Rock was pretty much an accident
Hogan was a heel in that match
Crowd reaction alone doesnt make u a face or a heel - Triple H was cheered throughout his career as a heel
Everyone in Toronto was booing The Rock though.
Hogan may have been booked as a heel, but he sure was being cheered as if he were a face.
Ah but by that logic
Cena
's been a heel in many areas for years and years....
All a heel really is is someone the audience hates, so yeah, Cena probably does constitute a heel for many people.
I still think a proper
Cena
heel turn can be big down the line. To all the little kids that adore him it could get them on a
Hogan
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Quote from: Hammy on February 20, 2009, 08:50:58 AM
I still think a proper
Cena
heel turn can be big down the line. To all the little kids that adore him it could get them on a
Hogan
scale.
You just know that'll be when he starts getting cheered.
A thought: what reaction would a heel Cena get if he were fighting Shawn Michaels in Canada??
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