Wrestling...thats right, Wrestling!

[Izzy]

Ah Kane....he's always had so much potential (hell, the size of those arms back in 2000 - yey gods I'm amazed people didnt just surrender in a match!)

He was always my fav wrestler, just loved his look

He had that myserious thing going on that worked so well, and the way he'd just sit up after a beating....

Then....he got that crappy mask, then lost the mask altogether, then got fat......and jobbed for about 10 straight years

I notice he is back in shape (or close enough) - if ever a wrestler was missing the 'roids its Kane

He no longer wears his daft shoes which gave him about three inches in height - he is now noticeably shorter than the Undertaker, probably scrapping 6'9 (hell, i wouldnt complain!) instead of 6'12

WWE never seemed to know what to do with him, as a fat bald guy he is no better than Snitsky...

Give him back the mask, keep him silent and have him hiding away in the dark like he used to - give him back that sinister menancing vibe, you were never sure what he was up to

..and in a match use him as a monster, not a jobber - have him slaughter people, his one arm chokeslam was quite a sight, I remember him vs Jericho at some PPV yonks ago (a last man standing match) he slammed Jericho so hard I was certain Jericho wouldn't get up in the match OR real life.....

Kane's downfall was ultimately Kane vs Kane (lol!) - to think fake Kane (or was it real Kane...) beat the bald Kane, poor guy couldnt even claim to be the best Kane anymore! Beaten by someone pretending to be you...oh the shame....

[Sober_times]

Wtf was up with Kane the retarded demolisher??...I really hate him without his mask compared to before..he comes out as a pussy trying to be tough..though he does do it better now than he use to. It was a good raw..carried good over from last week until the stupid ending.

It's called a heel turn, I thought it was pretty interesting.

REALLY? A heel turn is what he did???!!! Thanks I had NOOOOO idea thats what it was. Good thing your here to explain it to me.

No shit it was a heel turn, doesn't change the fact it sucked. Doesn't change the fact it could have been done a hell of a lot better than that. Doesn't change the fact that the crowd and myself seemed bored and uninterested.

[slash666]

Wtf was up with Kane the retarded demolisher??...I really hate him without his mask compared to before..he comes out as a pussy trying to be tough..though he does do it better now than he use to. It was a good raw..carried good over from last week until the stupid ending.

It's called a heel turn, I thought it was pretty interesting.

REALLY? A heel turn is what he did???!!! Thanks I had NOOOOO idea thats what it was. Good thing your here to explain it to me.

No shit it was a heel turn, doesn't change the fact it sucked. Doesn't change the fact it could have been done a hell of a lot better than that. Doesn't change the fact that the crowd and myself seemed bored and uninterested.

to each there own and all that stuff but the majority of people liked how it happened

[slash666]

source: PWInsider.com

-- CM Punk accidentally broke Snitsky's nose during their match last night on Raw when he hit him with the G.T.S. maneuver

-- William Regal's sixty-day drug suspension for a second violation of the company's Wellness Policy concludes on Friday, July 18



Oh I can't have this thread not having this Gif in it!

[BlowUpYourVideo]

I wondered what the hell was going on when that kid showed up in front of Batista. How did he get on the air in the first place??


No one's mentioned that HBK/Jericho promo which I thought was really good. Though it just kind of faded out at the end (unlike Raw ).

[Axl4Life]

Oh I can't have this thread not having this Gif in it!

Thanks so much for this dude! I was going to gif this myself earlier but no one had posted the video on youtube. Then I saw it somewere else but I'm having this problem with my computer recently that won't let me save certain gifs. I can only save them as bitmap for some reason and I can't get it fixed. It's so frustrating. However I was able to save yours. Much appriciated!

 

[BlowUpYourVideo]

Kane goes berserk and attacks...Jerry Lawler? Man, I guess *someone* needs to find a new personal dentist. 

(From The Wrestling Fan.)



And on another note, I would like to say that I hate that splash that Rey Mysterio does. Is that his finisher now? It looks like he's collapsing off the top rope. At least don't have your arms stuck to the side of your body when you jump. It's not exactly very Luchador is it? Belly-flopping a guy. Anyway, that's all I have to say on the matter...

[Axl4Life]

Obviously not as funny as the Batista kid, but heres the CM Punk camera botch gif I just made. The quality of the gif takes away from Punk's confused expression sadly. I didn't notice this last night but only when I watched the video again on youtube before making this, you can hear a guy saying; "We're live!.....You idiot!" 

[Evolution]

I hope Kane was talking about Paul Bearer!

On another note, it's good to see some variety in the World Title scene with more than one challenger at a time. I'm intrugued at the outcome of Punk/Batista.

[Hammy]

The camera falling during CM Punks backstage promo! I think Punk thought that they were knocked off the air. The look he gives to Grisham was priceless! He had to wait for him to say "It's okay, go ahead" until he continued. 

And last but not least, moment of the night goes to the Batista kid followed by the two security guys chasing after him. Batista's "Wtf?" expression made that whole segment (although it obviously wasn't planned.)

Oh come on they were both planned.  I think it's safe to say with many pre-match promos, where there is no need for them to be live, they tape them earlier just in case they do screw up, why risk it live?  Also both incidents featuring plugs for the show being live.  And the way those 2 security guys chased the kid, it was like a comedy skit, no way was that legit, and for stuff like this to happen twice in one night, no chance.  I enjoyed both it was fun but it'll of been done for a reason.  My guess is people complain about RAW not being must see tv anymore, it used to be that anything can happen show, it's live not taped and who knows what will take place, I think it's just an attempt to recreate that, it's live anything can happen buzz.  I mean it's one thing the camera falling but those guys didn't need to say "We're live....you idiot" it was done for affect.

[D]

Batista has to win the title right?

I Mean how much longer can they job him out to a champion?

[Hammy]

Batista has to win the title right?

I Mean how much longer can they job him out to a champion?

Punk wins via flukey roll-up, Batista snaps, goes heel on him and they have a rematch at Summerslam.

Or he wins it and they rush the Batista/Cena feud and have them fight at Summerslam.

Honestly though, unless he starts bombing on top, to pull the trigger with Punk and then have him drop it so soon is such a waste, his short reign has been booked well so far, I'll keep the faith for now. (Bit of Jovi there for ya like...)

[D]

Money in the bank seemed like a tool to get the title to Raw though. Why else job him out after he won MITB and now fighting Batista who over the last year has put over UT and Edge countless times.

I dont understand why WWE aren't making Jericho/HBK their centerpiece feud. This thing is outstanding and saved the show for me last night. It is real feeling, intense and just awesome. Now if only HBK will Job to Jericho so the feud will continue.

I still dont see a push for Lance Cade.

Dude has done nothing but look like a tool since the turn.

[Mr Cowbell ?]

Oh come on they were both planned.  I think it's safe to say with many pre-match promos, where there is no need for them to be live, they tape them earlier just in case they do screw up, why risk it live?  Also both incidents featuring plugs for the show being live.  And the way those 2 security guys chased the kid, it was like a comedy skit, no way was that legit, and for stuff like this to happen twice in one night, no chance.  I enjoyed both it was fun but it'll of been done for a reason.  My guess is people complain about RAW not being must see tv anymore, it used to be that anything can happen show, it's live not taped and who knows what will take place, I think it's just an attempt to recreate that, it's live anything can happen buzz.  I mean it's one thing the camera falling but those guys didn't need to say "We're live....you idiot" it was done for affect.

Once again it goes back to what I was saying as they go OVERBOARD to the extreme. Sure maybe they tip a light, or a kid gets backstage and does and INCREDIBLE Bastita Machine Gun Dance. Both both them happening on the same night, Only soooo much or many accidents not even Dr Ian Malcom from Jurassic Park would believe in all the WWE shit hitting the fan like it has gone wrong lately.

[Mr Cowbell ?]

Money in the bank seemed like a tool to get the title to Raw though. Why else job him out after he won MITB and now fighting Batista who over the last year has put over UT and Edge countless times.

I dont understand why WWE aren't making Jericho/HBK their centerpiece feud. This thing is outstanding and saved the show for me last night. It is real feeling, intense and just awesome. Now if only HBK will Job to Jericho so the feud will continue.

I still dont see a push for Lance Cade.

Dude has done nothing but look like a tool since the turn.

Punk has to retain at GAB somehow... Whether it be by Bastita snapping and turning heel, or a cheap roll up, I cant seem WWE jobbing out the title so fast. It was bad enough they made him Job to Chavo his ECW gold. I think a cheap finish is in order for Punk and Bastita to roll over into SS,

[D]

Or:

Kane could cost Batista the match thus setting up a Kane/Batista feud.

[gilee7]

And on another note, I would like to say that I hate that splash that Rey Mysterio does. Is that his finisher now? It looks like he's collapsing off the top rope. At least don't have your arms stuck to the side of your body when you jump. It's not exactly very Luchador is it? Belly-flopping a guy. Anyway, that's all I have to say on the matter...

I thought that move was really cool, actually. With his arms stuck to his side like that he looks like a missile launching.

The HBK/Jericho feud isn't doing much for me, even though I'm a big fan of both wrestlers. It's just we've already seen this before. I know they can put on some great matches together, but their feud feels like one of those "well, we don't know what else to do with you two at the moment, so we're just gonna have you two go at it for the next few months, because, like, everybody knows Jericho used to idolize HBK, and, well . . . yeah." At the very least they could've set up the feud much better, instead of their current way, which seems awkward and strange. Originally I was thinking it would've been cool to have HBK and Jericho as a tag-team, a new version of the Rockers, capture the tag-team belts, start a fued with the Hardy Boyz, have an instant-classic TLC match, maybe have HBK put over Jeff Hardy in a ladder match or something, and then eventually have Jericho stab HBK in the back. At least that would be a good excuse to create a lot of amazing matches, since all those guys are capable of stealing the show every night.

On a side note, I was looking through a collection of VHS tapes today and came across a recording of the 2003 Royal Rumble, which I popped in and watched. The Royal Rumble itself was pretty cool. HBK and Jericho were the first two out, and Jericho beat the crap out of HBK with a chair and eliminated him. Jericho lasted for a long time after that, until eventually a bandaged-up HBK ran out and helped to eliminate Jericho. Brock Lesner and Undertaker were the last two in the ring, with Lesner winning.

The PPV featured the match between HHH and Scott Steiner for the World Heavyweight Championship, which ended in a disqualification. The match was decent, I thought, although it looked very sloppy at times. Steiner was supposed to be the face and HHH the heel, but the fans just kept booing Steiner throughout the match. He even had kind of a hurt look on his face. I felt kinda bad for the guy. I guess the WWE fans weren't going to cheer for a WCW guy that does nothing but suplex his opponent again and again and again.

There was also a really good match between Kurt Angle and Chris Benoit for the WWE Championship. Angle won, but the fans gave Benoit a standing ovation afterwards. Too bad that guy's no longer with us. I was never a huge fan--he couldn't cut a promo worth a shit-- but the dude was a magnificent in-ring performer.

[w.axl.rose]

i dont like that splash Ray Mastrio does either but that shit cracks me up everytime i see him do it 

[Mr Cowbell ?]

Or:

Kane could cost Batista the match thus setting up a Kane/Batista feud.

WOuldnt be a bad idea, but I hope not as I cant see Batista turning Heel if a Heel Kane takes him out at GAB. Im hoping for a DQ finish where he goes FN crazy and even after the DQ still tries to finish Punk off.

[A Private Eye]

Ah Kane....he's always had so much potential (hell, the size of those arms back in 2000 - yey gods I'm amazed people didnt just surrender in a match!)

He was always my fav wrestler, just loved his look

He had that myserious thing going on that worked so well, and the way he'd just sit up after a beating....

Then....he got that crappy mask, then lost the mask altogether, then got fat......and jobbed for about 10 straight years

I notice he is back in shape (or close enough) - if ever a wrestler was missing the 'roids its Kane

He no longer wears his daft shoes which gave him about three inches in height - he is now noticeably shorter than the Undertaker, probably scrapping 6'9 (hell, i wouldnt complain!) instead of 6'12

WWE never seemed to know what to do with him, as a fat bald guy he is no better than Snitsky...

Give him back the mask, keep him silent and have him hiding away in the dark like he used to - give him back that sinister menancing vibe, you were never sure what he was up to

..and in a match use him as a monster, not a jobber - have him slaughter people, his one arm chokeslam was quite a sight, I remember him vs Jericho at some PPV yonks ago (a last man standing match) he slammed Jericho so hard I was certain Jericho wouldn't get up in the match OR real life.....

Kane's downfall was ultimately Kane vs Kane (lol!) - to think fake Kane (or was it real Kane...) beat the bald Kane, poor guy couldnt even claim to be the best Kane anymore! Beaten by someone pretending to be you...oh the shame....

Kane was always my fav as a kid as well, even when he went up against Austin or The Rock as heel I wanted him to win. As a monster on a rampage he just seemed this unstoppable force and it was great to watch. I remember just after Judgement Day in 2000(?) when Taker returned during that Iron Man match and in the following weeks HHH, Rock and Taker were feuding for the title. Taker and Rock were taking a beating from the Mcmahon/Helmsley regime at the end of Raw, then out came Kane and he just cleaned house, I loved it. He was awesome in the Rumble the year after as well (he's awesome in most Rumbles actually), entered at no. 3 or 4 and was the last man in with Austin at the end. I was gutted he didn't win, they obviously had bigger plans for Austin vs Rock at WM 17, but at the time I felt personally robbed  Good memories.

With a character like Kane with a mask and (supposed) scarred face, an unmasking storyline is inevitable, unfortunately after that he's become a jobber and that relentless never stays down monster persona he had has gone, he's a shadow of the character that he used to be sadly.