Smashing Pumpkins

[Tj]

Get it 

But I have a lot of bias...

I guess I wouldn't really suggest starting there though. Greatest hits albums do a good job of giving someone a general idea of a band's career, but I prefer listening to proper albums with songs that are meant to be together - especially with regards to SP.

[Rocksteady]

Get it?

But I have a lot of bias...

I guess I wouldn't really suggest starting there though. Greatest hits albums do a good job of giving someone a general idea of a band's career, but I prefer listening to proper albums with songs that are meant to be together - especially with regards to SP.

Well I think I am gonna get it. I mean who's gonna stop me from buying the albums later If I want to  Oh another question, you know the song from "Batman and Robin"(god that movie sucked) called "The beginning is the end is the beginning" is this on any other compilation or something other than the movie soundtrack itself? Anyway thanks for all the feedback feel free to add anything you want positive or negative.

[EccoTides]

I'd say get it - There're a ton, and I mean a ton, of spectacular songs missing from the GH - But that's the nature of Greatest Hits albums, right? It gives a nice overview of the band's song library and its diversity. After the GH, I'd say go for Mellon Collie or Adore (which is a very slow, atmospheric album - But my favorite of the bunch).

As for "The End is the Beginning is the End," I've no clue where to find it aside from on the B&R soundtrack, but that song absolutely rocks! Too bad the movie is pretty much the worst movie.. ever.

Anyway, I hope you like the GH! 

[pasnow]

Well I don't know if you got it or not, but I always felt Siamese Dream was a classic album of theirs, and would recommend it over any GH of theirs.. I never liked their whole Melon Collie... era. Although this does have Drown which is an awsome song off the 'Singles' soundtrack, with a long distortion solo at the end. 

[Rocksteady]

Well I don't know if you got it or not, but I always felt Siamese Dream was a classic album of theirs, and would recommend it over any GH of theirs.. I never liked their whole Melon Collie... era. Although this does have Drown which is an awsome song off the 'Singles' soundtrack, with a long distortion solo at the end.?

Well I ordered It ( haven't gotten it yet). Well the greatest hits has 3 songs from "Siamese dream" That won't be able to replace the album but, should give away the tone of the album. And as I said earlier who can' stop me from buying it later right? Anyway thanks for responding 

[Is he struggling?]

I'd say get it - There're a ton, and I mean a ton, of spectacular songs missing from the GH - But that's the nature of Greatest Hits albums, right? It gives a nice overview of the band's song library and its diversity. After the GH, I'd say go for Mellon Collie or Adore (which is a very slow, atmospheric album - But my favorite of the bunch).

As for "The End is the Beginning is the End," I've no clue where to find it aside from on the B&R soundtrack, but that song absolutely rocks! Too bad the movie is pretty much the worst movie.. ever.

Anyway, I hope you like the GH! 

'The end is the beginning' might be on iTunes, along with an absolute shedload of hard to find Pumpkins tracks. (More bands should make their rarities available like this).

I second Eccotides - Rotten Apples  is a good starting place but barely scratches the surface of the Pumpkins massive catalogue. And Mellon Collie alongside Adore really shows Mr Corgan's full range of songwriting styles.

[Megaguns]

I love SP, The vid for ADORE is my fave video of all time, soooo trippy. i wont buy the greatest hits. i got the songs already..

BTW how funny is the clown scene on the dvd of the videos?   

[Gordi]

The version of 'Drown' on this album is different to the Singles one, it doesn't have the outro solo for some reason.
I love Mellon Collie it's a fantastic album, but try this for an overview then if you like that you'll know which albums to get.

[Baby Chaos]

This is a pretty comprehensive greatest hits which I would advise getting.

The most productive period was Siamese Dream and Mellon Collie and all the best tracks are present here. Try getting the two disc addition which also has all the best b-sides.

The Pumpkins are one of the best b-side bands of recent times, along with The Smiths, The Wildhearts and early-era Oasis. Try tracking down all of the Mellon Collie singles which have half-a-dozen b-sides on each (Bullet, 1979, tonight tonight, zero, 33)

In all honesty if you want a proper feel for the band just buy Siamese Dream and Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness. Siamese Dream is one of the strongest albums of the grunge era and Mellon Collie is one of the best epic prog rock albums of all time.

They're recording a new album at the moment which is due for release this year, although it remains to be seen if James and D'arcy will be on it. To be honest, as long as Billy and Jimmy are part of the band it doesn't really matter who the other guitarist and bassist are.

[rocky]

Normally I hate it when people bump old threads, but I just checked smashing pumpkins website and it says that they are recording with Roy Thomas Baker.  That is good news!  Isn't he one of the (many) rumored producers for cd?

[PJ]

Normally I hate it when people bump old threads, but I just checked smashing pumpkins website and it says that they are recording with Roy Thomas Baker.? That is good news!? Isn't he one of the (many) rumored producers for cd?

yeah he produced CD beetwen 2000 and 2002..
he is great producing.. but they way he produces is very very painfull and slow lol... he use a lot of analog equipments.. and hundreds of overdubs and takes...
he produced the last darkness record.. and it sounds great, the only problem are the so so songs lol

[GnFnR87]

this should be interesting, i really hope James Iha comes back too that would be awesome.

Zwan was ok, the song "of a broken heart" is amazing

here is Billy playing an acoustic version, its fantastic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qrBnidaMZY

[King Sand]

This is great news!  I loved the Zwan cd and was dissapointed when I heard they broke up...  The Pumpkins getting back together more than makes up for that!!!

[bazgnr]

Last I heard it was just Billy Corgan and Jimmy Chamberlain.... That could also work for a Zwan reunion.?

That won't be happening.  Corgan gave an interview where he said how ugly the Zwan thing became, and how bitter things got between himself and the other band members, and how he'd never work with (most of) them again.  I really enjoyed the music, though...

[Dr. Blutarsky]

Zwan was great, it consisted of the the backbone of the Pumpkins.  Billy and Jimmy, that is all they need with some good musicians to round them out .

[mrlee]

i thought this band was grunge. but i read up on them on wikipedia and they seem a totally different band to the scene...i wanna listen to them however...where do i start 

[bazgnr]

i thought this band was grunge. but i read up on them on wikipedia and they seem a totally different band to the scene...i wanna listen to them however...where do i start?

Siamese Dream.

[GnFnR87]

i found this on another forum.....

not sure how credible this is, but it looks legit



if turns out not to be, please don't shoot the messenger!! lol

[EccoTides]

Which forum did you find that on?

[GnFnR87]

Which forum did you find that on?

http://www.echoingthesound.org/phpbbx/viewtopic.php?t=6004&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=100

its in the music section of a NIN messageboard