Chris Cornell on '92 GNR/Axl

[August 18th]

soundgarden is boring, nirvana is boring, grunge is boring.
guns n' roses is ROCK.

[guantanamo]

GNR lyrics hardly ever follow a regular song platform i.e. verse-chorus-verse-chorus-verse.?

Are you joking? With the possible exceptions of Coma, Get in the Ring, Estranged, My World and maybe one or two others, ALL of them follow this platform, adding a bridge here or there.

You are mistaken, a lot of gnr songs do not have a chorus.
This is just off the top of my head for gnr songs without a chorus.

Estranged, nov rain, coma, dont damn me, dust n bones, perfect crime, the garden, garden of eden, civil war.

As I said, Coma, Get in the Ring, Estranged, My World and maybe one or two others do not have a chorus (okay maybe four or five others).

As for Garden of Eden -

"Lost in the Garden of Eden
Said we're lost in the Garden of Eden
And there's no one's gonna believe this
But we're lost in the Garden of Eden"

Looks like a chorus to me.

Civil War?

"I don't need your civil war
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor
Your power hungry sellin' soldiers
In a human grocery store"

Repeat.

[GypsySoul]

Gypsy note:? Sorry for bumping up this thread but this wasn't worth me bothering to start a new thread over.? And again, this is just the "Axl mention" part of the interview.

Gypsy comment:? I don't know what this guy has against Axl but IMO the "personal crisis" comment was out of line.? He could have told this anecdote without it.? And seems to me that, dispite Axl's "personal crisis," his main concern is to put on the best possible show for the fans.

[jimmythegent]

Gypsy note:? Sorry for bumping up this thread but this wasn't worth me bothering to start a new thread over.? And again, this is just the "Axl mention" part of the interview.

Gypsy comment:? I don't know what this guy has against Axl but IMO the "personal crisis" comment was out of line.? He could have told this anecdote without it.? And seems to me that, dispite Axl's "personal crisis," his main concern is to put on the best possible show for the fans.

I reckon most of these anecdotes are told in pretty good humour and I'd venture a guess to say they're recalled with some fondness as well

[jimmythegent]

soundgarden is boring, nirvana is boring, grunge is boring.
guns n' roses is ROCK.

soundgarden were the greatest rock band of the 90's IMO
gnr couldve been if they hadnt fizzled out

[jameslofton29]

Jimmy, I agree with that statement 100%. I also never understood why Soundgarden was labeled as grunge. They were clearly a metal band, and just because they were from Seattle didnt mean they were grunge. They definitely carried the torch in GNR's absence. I always liked Soundgarden, but when GNR exited the stage, I really started getting into Soundgarden, buying albums I hadn't heard before, like Ultramega OK and Flower. Superunknown was the greatest album of 1994. People here hate to hear this, but the other band that helped alot in keeping metal in the mainstream was STP.

[gilld1]

Right on, James.  Soundgarden ruled.  Another band that was supposedly grunge but absolutely metal was Alice In Chains.  They were the bastard sons of Sabbath.  Grunge was always such a stupid term for the scene.  Looking back, most of those bands from Seattle were rock bands, plain and simple.

[jameslofton29]

Yeah, Alice in Chains was definitely metal. In 1991, I seen them on the 'Clash of the Titans' tour. They were with Anthrax,Slayer, and Megadeth.

[Vicious Wishes]

Chris Cornell, Soundgarden, Motherlovebone, Temple of the dog. Do yourself a favor.

[jameslofton29]

Interesting you should mention Mother Love Bone. When I hear about CD and how it might have alot of ballads, I think of Mother Love Bone. If its as good as that album, we'll be damn lucky.

[D]

Jesus Christ get over it
Soundgarden could be the most overrated fucking band Ive ever heard.

Chris Cornell has zero diversity in his lyrics or vocals

to me he sounds the same every single fuckin song

If CD is only as good as Mother Love Bone, Im gonna jump off a fuckin bridge

where do some of u come up with this shit u post anyway?

[jameslofton29]

D, you obviously haven't listened to Soundgarden or Mother Love bone, or you wouldn't say such comments.

[Axl4Prez2004]

Jesus Christ get over it
Soundgarden could be the most overrated fucking band Ive ever heard.

Chris Cornell has zero diversity in his lyrics or vocals

to me he sounds the same every single fuckin song

If CD is only as good as Mother Love Bone, Im gonna jump off a fuckin bridge

where do some of u come up with this shit u post anyway?

Actually, I have to agree with D...maybe not with that much intensity, but yeah D, I'm with you on this one.

-Axl4prez2004

[Vicious Wishes]

Jesus Christ get over it
Soundgarden could be the most overrated fucking band Ive ever heard.

Chris Cornell has zero diversity in his lyrics or vocals

to me he sounds the same every single fuckin song

If CD is only as good as Mother Love Bone, Im gonna jump off a fuckin bridge

where do some of u come up with this shit u post anyway?

Do us a favor, oh enlightened one, jump off the fuckin bridge already.

[gilld1]

Yeah guys, just because it doesn't come from 88 doesn't mean it sucks.  Cornell would be a great vocalist in any era.  You guys are gonna shit when CD has grunge elements. 

[D]

Kiss my Axl id jump but then who would support you ,your crackhead mom and your retarded little brother who eats his own shit and walks around goin "yabba yabba yabba"?


Soundgarden are ok I guess but Mother Love Bone?

U would be happy if CD sounded like a MLB cd?

Its not dissing MLB per se

but Ive waited too long for CD and I think more a long the lines of Pink Floyd The Wall, Led Zepplin 4, The white Album u know?

not a fuckin MLB cd

that would be like me saying, If the new Bon Jovi cd is as good as Britny Fox, Ill be thrilled.

Cornell is a good vocalist but compared to Axl Rose *to borrow from Pulp Fiction* isnt in the same ball park, the same league, he isnt even the same fuckin sport.

[jimmythegent]

Kiss my Axl id jump but then who would support you ,your crackhead mom and your retarded little brother who eats his own shit and walks around goin "yabba yabba yabba"?


Soundgarden are ok I guess but Mother Love Bone?

U would be happy if CD sounded like a MLB cd?

Its not dissing MLB per se

but Ive waited too long for CD and I think more a long the lines of Pink Floyd The Wall, Led Zepplin 4, The white Album u know?

not a fuckin MLB cd

that would be like me saying, If the new Bon Jovi cd is as good as Britny Fox, Ill be thrilled.

Cornell is a good vocalist but Axl Rose *to borrow from Pulp Fiction* isnt in the same ball park, the same league, he isnt even the same fuckin sport.

gotta disagree there (agree in MLB tho)

Cornell from a purely technical standpoint, has it all over Axl. You could argue however, that Axl sings with more personality or feeling, which in some part Id agree with

But I love Cornells voice and he sure has the range, and to reiterate, technically he's a better singer than Axl IMO.

But that's kind of futile, kinda like comparing Bucket to Slash etc...

[W. Botaxl Rose]

Of all the dumb, irrational shit that gets spewed on this board daily about W. Axl Rose, I think D just took the alltime grand prize. To say Chris Cornell is not even in the same ballpark, let alone the same sport as axl as a vocalist is the very definition of ignorant.

[D]

Axl has 3 or 4 different voices, U cant tell sometimes when it is axl singing or not.

Cornell has that same melody, the same style over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over

he cant wail like axl, and his slow songs arent near well as heartfelt on the low end in my opinion.

He doesnt compare to Axl to me at all

[jimmythegent]

Axl has 3 or 4 different voices, U cant tell sometimes when it is axl singing or not.

Cornell has that same melody, the same style over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over

he cant wail like axl, and his slow songs arent near well as heartfelt on the low end in my opinion.

He doesnt compare to Axl to me at all

it's becoming clear to me that you obviously haven't listened to alot of SG. For that matter his solo album is very diverse with alot of slower numbers and is a stunning album both vocally but also the songwriting and arrangments.
Cornell can wail with the best of them (Plant and Axl on a good day) and he also has a solid mid range and a lower range that is just as powerful.

Put simply, Cornell is the complete rock vocalist