The Oldest GNR Flyer around...

[Butch Français]

Guns N' Roses was at first a combination of Hollywood Rose and LA Guns, then the LA Guns part quit, they still decided to keep the Guns part in the name when members of Road Crew took the place of the LA Guns guys.
what if they changed the name to Crew N' Roses? then people could stop bitching about Tracii being the original guitarplayer..

maybe this flyer is for LA Guns? did anyone think of that?
both Axl and Izzy were in LA Guns for a period weren't they?

Edit: btw, Ole is a norwegian name, maybe he's from here?

[dustNroses]

true... slash auditioned for fuking poison at one point. however, if that shit didnt happen in the eighties, We wouldnt be here. Im glad we are, Gunners rule!!!

[fora]

maybe this flyer is for LA Guns? did anyone think of that?
both Axl and Izzy were in LA Guns for a period weren't they?

Edit: btw, Ole is a norwegian name, maybe he's from here?

I don't know.... Ask to tracii!

www.traciiguns.com

[Christos AG]

maybe this flyer is for LA Guns? did anyone think of that?
both Axl and Izzy were in LA Guns for a period weren't they?

The flyer says GUNS-N-ROSES... What more proof do you want? 

[Pandora]

That's a cool flyer. There's a picture of it in the "Hollywood Rose - Roots of Guns N' Roses" CD booklet.

[fora]

and...?? ? ? ? ?your correct. #######applause ladies and gentlemen!!!########

Im new here man. its good to meet ppl who know theyre gnr history too..

and...?

[Dayle1066]

Even though Guns was in before Slash, Slash's playing is a lot better he has a better image and wrote all the guitar parts for those tunes. It could of been very different.

[dustNroses]

yes?

[jarmo]

maybe this flyer is for LA Guns? did anyone think of that?

No. It says GN'R.....

Edit: btw, Ole is a norwegian name, maybe he's from here?

I think he was Danish. I think he died, but I might be wrong about that.




/jarmo

[Christos AG]

That's a cool flyer. There's a picture of it in the "Hollywood Rose - Roots of Guns N' Roses" CD booklet.

Really, I don't remember that...

I got it about 1 1/2 ago, from a Greek friend who was in LA back then. He saw GNR when they started...

[Pandora]

That's a cool flyer. There's a picture of it in the "Hollywood Rose - Roots of Guns N' Roses" CD booklet.

Really, I don't remember that...

Trust me, I just checked it out because I thought I had seen it somewhere, and it's in there alright

Your friend is a lucky guy, goddamn 

[ppbebe]

The first GN'R Line-up was:

W. Axl Rose V
Tracii Guns G
Izzy Stradlin G
Ole Beach B
Rob Gardner D

then

W. Axl Rose V
Tracii Guns G
Izzy Stradlin G
Duff McKagan B
Rob Gardner D

then

W. Axl Rose V
Slash G
Izzy Stradlin G
Duff McKagan B
Steven Adler D

So Guns n' Roses was founded by Axl and Izzy.

Among the third group, Axl and Izzy are the only guys entitled the original members.

[Neemo]

The first GN'R Line-up was:

W. Axl Rose V
Tracii Guns G
Izzy Stradlin G
Ole Beach B
Rob Gardner D

then

W. Axl Rose V
Tracii Guns G
Izzy Stradlin G
Duff McKagan B
Rob Gardner D

then

W. Axl Rose V
Slash G
Izzy Stradlin G
Duff McKagan B
Steven Adler D

So Guns n' Roses was founded by Axl and Izzy.

Among the third group, Axl and Izzy are the only guys entitled the original members.

I think Tracii started it and brought Axl and Izzy from Hollywood Rose, hence (LA) Guns and (Hollywood) Roses
I used to think the roses was because of Axl Rose and Duff "Rose" McKagan but I was wrong.

Tracii then left because (I think) he didn't like working with Axl and his "Vision of Fame", Duff knew Slash And Adler from another Band so he brought them in after Tracii And Rob left. (I think Poison turned down Slash's audition, weird Eh?)

BTW I seem to recall reading that Duff was a originally a guitarist but couldn't find work so he ended up playing Bass when he went to hollyood and it just stuck with him, can anyone confirm that?

But PPBEBE you got to remeber that Slash and Duff helped write alot of the songs which appear on AFD and subsequent albums. And all the solos are Slash.

It's funny. I was looking at the albums this morning and AFD and Lies say "All songs Written by Guns'n'Roses" then UYI's have different member's credited for different songs. I remember thinking in '91, "man, this is the beginning of the end, they are not sticking together like they used to." then 2 or 3 yearl later they were done. Bizarre 

[*Izzy*]

I'd love to hear Appetite without Slash and Duff, I'd say it would have been much more glam and less gritty with just Axl, Izzy and Steve

  Izzy?

[ppbebe]

Neemo, I know.

My point is that it's not essential that you should be in the band from the beginning for being and becoming a real gun.

I'm just a bit pissed off with the reunionists bashing Axl for keeping the name and the current men for not being "the original guns".  It's clear that they can't argue over the "origin" of the band.

[Neemo]

Neemo, I know.

My point is that it's not essential that you should be in the band from the beginning for being and becoming a real gun.

I'm just a bit pissed off with the reunionists bashing Axl for keeping the name and the current men for not being "the original guns".? It's clear that they can't argue over the "origin" of the band.

OK Gottcha sorry I misunderstood. good point

[Christos AG]

I think Tracii started it and brought Axl and Izzy from Hollywood Rose, hence (LA) Guns and (Hollywood) Roses
I used to think the roses was because of Axl Rose and Duff "Rose" McKagan but I was wrong.

I have to say that when Gilby was here (about 3 months ago), it was me, him and Wayne of MC5 in my car, and Gilby was telling him the story (I trust Gilby more than anyone cause he's a good friend of Tracii) and he was telling Wayne that the name came from both names of Axl's and Tracii's.

He also told Wayne that Tracii left the band cause he simply didn't want to do that tour. Nothing similar to your story...

[Neemo]

I think Tracii started it and brought Axl and Izzy from Hollywood Rose, hence (LA) Guns and (Hollywood) Roses
I used to think the roses was because of Axl Rose and Duff "Rose" McKagan but I was wrong.

I have to say that when Gilby was here (about 3 months ago), it was me, him and Wayne of MC5 in my car, and Gilby was telling him the story (I trust Gilby more than anyone cause he's a good friend of Tracii) and he was telling Wayne that the name came from both names of Axl's and Tracii's.

He also told Wayne that Tracii left the band cause he simply didn't want to do that tour. Nothing similar to your story...

You know Gilby? Gilby Clarke? Tell him Pawnshops Guitars is an awesome record.

Maybe Hollywood Rose was named after Axl. So in a way I'm right.

and Why do I read in interviews with Tracii that he says "Axl is a dick"? What tour?

[Christos AG]

You know Gilby? Gilby Clarke? Tell him Pawnshops Guitars is an awesome record.

I'm pretty sure you can tell him yourself at gilbyclarke.com

Maybe Hollywood Rose was named after Axl. So in a way I'm right.

hehehe, if you look at it this way yes you're right...

What tour?

The Hell Tour.

and Why do I read in interviews with Tracii that he says "Axl is a dick"?

I wouldn't know about that...

[Neemo]

and Why do I read in interviews with Tracii that he says "Axl is a dick"?

I wouldn't know about that...

I just thought I read that once on this site. could be wrong. probably am

Is Gilby ever gonna come to Canada?