Has the bar been raised?

[RitzWalker8]

I like the SOAD album.  Other thna that I couldn't care less.  Besides with the music these days the bar is 1 inch from the floor.  Lastly, I could give a shit what other fans/bands think of GNR.  So who really cares.

[ppbebe]

As far as I like it...

most of those bands are not rock bands. it's not their fault that rock music is in a slump - they make their own music and do it, with varying degrees of success, very well.

I thought they were like mostly rock groups in some degree...just not hard rock bands.

The labeling buisiness sucks....

[gilld1]

Who says that this new GNR album is going to be a "conventional" rock album?  I think that some of the people on this board are going to be in for a rude awakening when this album comes out.  Long gone are the days of AFD and UYI.  Axl's a reported fan of NIN, SOAD, Fiona Apple, and the Chili Peppers.  LIke it or not these bands may have an impact on the CD sound. 

[Saul]

I'll be surprised if democracy is better then greenDays "American Idiot" album (not the song , the whole album)

IMHO that was easily the best rock album I've heard in the last couple years.

Man I just busted a gut reading that,thanks.

No problem! And when the day comes that you can write a song on par with "jesus of suburbia" or "homecoming" let me know and I'll put you on my list of favorite artists!

I'm assuming you did actually listen to the whole american idiot album right?

[The Estranged MrFlashbax]

nin's new album's crap.. its so whiney.. makes me think of an emo lil 13 year old girl..

i'm a fan of SOAD.. they're one of the only metal bands around that actually have some melody and thought in their songs.. they're great but doesnt mean jack when compared to gnr..

[killingvector]

I didn't care for the new NIN or the Queens of the Stone Age efforts.

American Idiot is some kind of new classic, incredible.

[jameslofton29]

UYI is definitely the bar. GNR never did a followup for these albums, and since Axl hasn't done a real album since, he will be held to that standard.

[Mysteron]

In the last year or so there have been several excellent new albums released.? New ones by U2, Radiohead, NIN, SOAD, Audioslave, and with the Foos and White Stripes on the way.? Have these new albums raised the bar for Axl?? Especially, NIN and SOAD because Axl is a fan of both.? Does this add pressure to succeed??

What do you guys think?

No

Audioslave's album is poor. NIN' s album is mediocre. The new Foo's album is hit and miss. White Stripes' is average. SOAD will sell but it is bubblegum rock

U2's album was good, but it was a 2004 release

[Falcon]

NIN' s album is mediocre.

Wow, pretty harsh words for Nail's, I couldn't disagree more.

I would be happy if whatever Axl releases has half the bite "With Teeth" does.

[ppbebe]

I bet Mysteron  loves new Oasis "Don't believe the truth" like nes.

No accounting for tastes. I've already had more listens to "with teeth" than to "Atomic"  I got in Jan.

[madagas]

I love With Teeth however the lyrics are really pretty bland and repetitive to Reznor's other records. He just beats the subject matter to death. It is, overall though, a nice tight record. That being said, I will be extremely disappointed if Axl can't top that record in quality and from a sales perspective. Same with the U2 record-at least on the quality side .

[gilld1]

Wow I'm impressed, Mysteron, you have the ability to hear into the future.  How can you even comment on the new Foo Fighters and White Stripes when they haven't been released yet?  So tell us, oh powerful one, what does Chinese Democracy sound like?....dipshit!

[ppbebe]

No need for such a defiant manner on every bloody occasion.
Besides I'm pretty sure Mysteron has heard the albums he mentioned.

Madagas I wouldn't worry about that- well at least on the quality bit.
I know I'm getting little bored with the teeth.
It's true that NIN beats the subject to death.  Trent must be an adherent of Eric Satie, I reckon.   
As I said many times I'm capricious and still enjoy listening to most of the new GN'R songs.

[Hugh Knowho]

SYSTEM OF A DOWN is great, hard rock! Although the lyrics make no fuckin sense(at least to me!  ) but thats the type of shit you can just rock out to!

Audioslave NOT a fan , loved RAGE but Cornell doesnt fit here!

NIN.. will forever be a fan of Reznor despite his harsh words at times, NOT as good as Downward Spiral but then again WHAT IS

NONE of these bands have reached the proverbial "bar" set by AFD and UYI so speaking of it is nonsense!, when AXL decides to re-raise this bar you speak of YOU and everyone else will know it!

"What if everything around you
Isn't quite as it seems"

[jimmythegent]

I'll be surprised if democracy is better then greenDays "American Idiot" album (not the song , the whole album)

IMHO that was easily the best rock album I've heard in the last couple years.

i'll be very happy if it's on par with American Idiot - the best rock album since Soundgardens 'Superunknown' IMO ( Elephant by the White Stripes being another notable rock album in recent years)

[Budweiser Froggs]

SOAD was great to see live, the music is mediocre.  Radiohead and Green Day are legends.  Truly great bands and good albums everytime.

To me some of the bar is set by Velvet Revolver.  VR have made a solid album (although not perfect) and have been touring nonstop.  Out of all the bands I have seen in my life, VR had to be the best rock band out of them all.  GNR needs to regain the touring aspect because the 2002 tour had to be the most boring event I've ever been at.

[jameslofton29]

Budweiser, I agree with you on the 2002 tour. The setlist was very boring. Too much AFD and not enough UYI. To me, the only highlight of the 2002 tour was the small number of new songs that GNR played. I think on the next tour Axl should do something similar to what John Fogerty did in the mid 80's: Only play the new album. Forget about the classics. Fans didn't get pissed at Fogerty for not playing CCR hits, so I think Axl should try doing the same.

[Saul]

Budweiser, I agree with you on the 2002 tour. The setlist was very boring. Too much AFD and not enough UYI. To me, the only highlight of the 2002 tour was the small number of new songs that GNR played. I think on the next tour Axl should do something similar to what John Fogerty did in the mid 80's: Only play the new album. Forget about the classics. Fans didn't get pissed at Fogerty for not playing CCR hits, so I think Axl should try doing the same.

He should try and do what greenDay has done quite a few times recently , they've played the whole american idiot album front to back live .. axl outta play "democracy" in full , front to back. Or will he have that much confidence in every song on the album as greenday does with american idiot?

[Mysteron]

Wow I'm impressed, Mysteron, you have the ability to hear into the future.? How can you even comment on the new Foo Fighters and White Stripes when they haven't been released yet?? So tell us, oh powerful one, what does Chinese Democracy sound like?....dipshit!

I heard the White Stripes at a listening party a short while ago, and I am currently doing some work with the Foo Fighters. Is that ok with you? 

[Mysteron]

I bet Mysteron? loves new Oasis "Don't believe the truth" like nes.

No accounting for tastes. I've already had more listens to "with teeth" than to "Atomic"? I got in Jan.

Not a fan of Oasis. The NIN album is ok. I just find the songs (that I like) get tiresome after a while.

Everyone is different though