Heavy-Metal: yes or no?

[N.I.B]

His name is Rob Halford, and he's the metal god. His voice is perfect.

finaly, Walk, something we can agree on 

[Walk]

Um, KoRn and Slipknot aren't heavy metal. They're not even heavy. The best "pissed off" metal is stuff like Pantera, Fear Factory, Napalm Death.

[Dead N' Bloated]

Um, KoRn and Slipknot aren't heavy metal. They're not even heavy. The best "pissed off" metal is stuff like Pantera, Fear Factory, Napalm Death.

So true man. Metal died ages ago along with punk. This punk/metal colaberation into hardcore/emo crap is the NEW metal. Even damage plan had that drowning pool feel to em.
What has happened to music??


 

[Skeletor]

What has happened to music??

Let me put it this way - is MTV the only way you find out about new bands?

There's so much great music coming out all the time, and with all the old stuff I still haven't heard, I wish I had more time to listen to it all...

[Dead N' Bloated]

What has happened to music??

Let me put it this way - is MTV the only way you find out about new bands?

There's so much great music coming out all the time, and with all the old stuff I still haven't heard, I wish I had more time to listen to it all...

Im a soundtech for a few clubs in Newcastle Australia and i used to be a promoter aswell and the amout of bands I see every week that should have a record deal or at least a huge following but dont is unbelievable. It sux to see all this talent go to waste on some fuck with a beenie-cap or a dickhead with a shitload of tats so they look tough that their mums paid for.


 

[Walk]

So, you're saying that the talent is there (which is true, and it always has been), but it isn't being recognized. Well, I have some bad news. Lots of talent wasn't recognized in the 80's, either. Most people don't know about Incubus, for example. The 3rd (as far as I know, at least, from metal-archives records) band called Incubus, I mean. The death metal band that goes by Opprobrium these days because a corporate pop band stole their name with a lawyer army.

So, that's 4 bands called Incubus, and only one was really remarkable, even though the original was some decent NWOBHM, but there's always a lot of that. They should have chosen an original name. The fact that they were Christian death metal didn't help, either.  It's simply miraculous that band names like Death, Cynic, and so on haven't been stolen by mallcore wannabes.

Besides issues with finding a good name, bands have to find a good sound. But, if they have a good sound, they have to have a good name to match it, or they'll end up like Incubus. Toss in the problem of bad radio, MTV, and the usual suspects, and you have a lack of good music.

Interestingly, bands like Metallica sold lots of records without airplay and MTV back in the day, so maybe the culture of music has changed. Even black metal fans want to be kvlt and refuse to tell people about good bands. Some bands even try to avoid exposure, even resorting to spamming metal-archives to get their names removed!  People are willing to share MP3's, but they won't share enough info about new bands.

Well, I do, but the tepid responses I get aren't encouraging. 

[the dirt]

People are willing to share MP3's, but they won't share enough info about new bands.

People would share more info if they had knowledge of it in the first place.

[blues rocker]

I'd like to know what do you like in that kind of music. I have a big problem with anything metal/heavy-metal/trash etc... and I'm very surprised to see how many GN'R fans listen to that kind of music, I just don't understand: What are you attracted by??what do you like in heavy-metal? I'm just curious to know it.

well...first you have to define metal...i consider metal to be anything that is completely lacking in a "blues" influence...

classic rock bands (like aerosmith, led zeppelin, ac/dc, gnr, etc.) all have a very heavy blues sound to their rock...very melodic and soulful...you can distinctly recognize the catchy guitar riffs and vocal melodies...this makes for much more up-beat and positive-sounding music.

metal, on the other hand is completely devoid of soul or melody...it's more about making noise than about making an actual recognizable melody.  very dull, and depressing in its sound.

gnr, ac/dc - those bands are "rock n roll"....

disturbed, etc....that kind of shit is "metal"

metallica is a band that rests on the border of metal and rock...sometimes their music can be melodic, but other times it is very dark and lacking in melody ( much like the "st. anger" album, which was very much "metal" )


in other words:   rock is good....metal is garbage.

[Skeletor]

metal, on the other hand is completely devoid of soul or melody...it's more about making noise than about making an actual recognizable melody.

LMAO... that's some silly shit right there. Metal is a very wide genre, and there are zillions of bands that incorporate soul and melody into their music.

in other words:   rock is good....metal is garbage.

In other words: you're one ignorant mofo.

[blues rocker]

metal, on the other hand is completely devoid of soul or melody...it's more about making noise than about making an actual recognizable melody.

LMAO... that's some silly shit right there. Metal is a very wide genre, and there are zillions of bands that incorporate soul and melody into their music.

in other words:? ?rock is good....metal is garbage.

In other words: you're one ignorant mofo.

ummm...you're the one that just admitted to liking garbage...i think that makes you the ignorant mofo...

oh....and suckmuhballs

[Rob]

I'd like to know what do you like in that kind of music. I have a big problem with anything metal/heavy-metal/trash etc... and I'm very surprised to see how many GN'R fans listen to that kind of music, I just don't understand: What are you attracted by??what do you like in heavy-metal? I'm just curious to know it.

well...first you have to define metal...i consider metal to be anything that is completely lacking in a "blues" influence...

classic rock bands (like aerosmith, led zeppelin, ac/dc, gnr, etc.) all have a very heavy blues sound to their rock...very melodic and soulful...you can distinctly recognize the catchy guitar riffs and vocal melodies...this makes for much more up-beat and positive-sounding music.

metal, on the other hand is completely devoid of soul or melody...it's more about making noise than about making an actual recognizable melody.? very dull, and depressing in its sound.

gnr, ac/dc - those bands are "rock n roll"....

disturbed, etc....that kind of shit is "metal"

metallica is a band that rests on the border of metal and rock...sometimes their music can be melodic, but other times it is very dark and lacking in melody ( much like the "st. anger" album, which was very much "metal" )


in other words:? ?rock is good....metal is garbage.

Wow, dude...that was the most hilarious shit I've ever read.  Your arbitrary definitions and classifications of bands is mind boggling.  Seriously though, you obviously don't know jack about metal so please refrain from embarassing yourself any further.

[Walk]

disturbed, etc....that kind of shit is "metal"

No, it's not. Listen to Helloween, Dragonforce, and Blind Guardian. That's metal. Disturbed is mallcore.

in other words:   rock is good....metal is garbage.

Have you even heard metal before? Have you even heard Iron Maiden or Judas Priest?

[Mr. Dick Purple]

Better yet, heard Queen's stone cold crazy? thats what I call a first step of metal 

[Walk]

That's a good rock song. It's not metal, but it sounds great when it's "metallized'. I'm going to flush a lot of my kvlt kr3d here, but Britney Spear's song toxic sounds really cool with metal instruments. I forgot where I heard it, but it was good.

I heard her say on VH1 that you should only dress like Rob Halford in 1982 if: #1- You are Rob Halford and #2- It's 1982.  She's brighter than people think she is, compared to the Mandy's, Jessica's, Jennifer's, Lindsey's, and whatever's popular now.

[Mr. Dick Purple]

Yeah but the elements of heaviness is there, the speed riff the drumming banging the shit out of the sticks, you know?, also even metallica covers sounds good but only cause the original is great 

[the dirt]

She's brighter than people think she is, compared to the Mandy's, Jessica's, Jennifer's, Lindsey's, and whatever's popular now.

I don't even know who this is; seriously.

[WhosGilby?]

Metal has a bad reputation these days because of all the shit thats come out of bands claiming to be metal. Metallica, Megadeth, Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden, Motorhead, Dio, Judas Priest, even Guns N Roses (listen to Your Crazy) those are real metal bands.

[Metallifuck]

I'd like to know what do you like in that kind of music. I have a big problem with anything metal/heavy-metal/trash etc... and I'm very surprised to see how many GN'R fans listen to that kind of music, I just don't understand: What are you attracted by? what do you like in heavy-metal? I'm just curious to know it.

well...first you have to define metal...i consider metal to be anything that is completely lacking in a "blues" influence...

classic rock bands (like aerosmith, led zeppelin, ac/dc, gnr, etc.) all have a very heavy blues sound to their rock...very melodic and soulful...you can distinctly recognize the catchy guitar riffs and vocal melodies...this makes for much more up-beat and positive-sounding music.

metal, on the other hand is completely devoid of soul or melody...it's more about making noise than about making an actual recognizable melody.  very dull, and depressing in its sound.

gnr, ac/dc - those bands are "rock n roll"....

disturbed, etc....that kind of shit is "metal"

metallica is a band that rests on the border of metal and rock...sometimes their music can be melodic, but other times it is very dark and lacking in melody ( much like the "st. anger" album, which was very much "metal" )


in other words:   rock is good....metal is garbage.

AC/DC is more 'soulful' than Megadeth then? 

Quite a lot of metal (that I listen to anyway) isn't bluesy but a lot more classically influenced, which makes for excellent guitar and vocal melodies and harmonies.

[R4tfink]

I bleed metal.

Fucking love it! 

[GNR_Green]

That's a good rock song. It's not metal, but it sounds great when it's "metallized'. I'm going to flush a lot of my kvlt kr3d here, but Britney Spear's song toxic sounds really cool with metal instruments. I forgot where I heard it, but it was good.

I heard her say on VH1 that you should only dress like Rob Halford in 1982 if: #1- You are Rob Halford and #2- It's 1982.? She's brighter than people think she is, compared to the Mandy's, Jessica's, Jennifer's, Lindsey's, and whatever's popular now.

You heard Children of Bodom's cover of 'Oops I Did It Again'??  tr00!