GNR live actually sounded better in 1991 than 1992

[Koskenkorvasieni]

I just saw a DVD of the Noblesville Indiana gig from april 1991, before the St. Louis riot, before Izzy quit, before the backup singers, horn sections, extra keyboardists and all that other crap. They sounded much better then. Even with ballads like Patience and Estranged, it actually sounds better without the extra crap, just Axl, Izzy, Slash, Duff, Matt and Dizzy on stage. There seems to be so much more energy and raw power to it like that. Axl should never have gotten in to that stadium rock shit. I mean, there's nothing wrong with playing stadiums, but you don't have to bring a whole entourage of backup musicians with you. Even a big stadium can seem like an intimate gig, when you stick to the basics. Just my two cents..

[Smoking Guns]

as much as i love that gig, it is very, very sloppy.  but i like the rawness to it.  But when you compare it to the tokyo dvd's, the band is much tighter and axl's voice is much better.

[Dont Try Me]

Just my three pennies to the first poster:

Your a dick with nothing better to do then moaning and complaining like most of the others do on this board. There was nothing wrong with the little back-up thingy's. In fact, it was pretty interesting and cool to me. Too bad you didn't like it........wait.......I'm sure you liked it but as in refering to my first sentence.....you got nothing better to do then dragging old cows from the ditch.

Enjoy jerking off to Traci and Roberta posters from the old days

[WARose]

i think here are a LOT of people on this board thinking that the back-up stuff sucked (i am one of them ) i mean i like tracy and roberta but the horn section and teddy bigbag was way to much imo.

I like the 91 and late 92-93 shows most. i  don`t think that axl`s voice sounded that much better in 91 than in 92. watch noblesville 91 and listen to paradise city  for example. it`s unbelieveable how fucked up axl`s voice is in the last songs.

[HK-47]

Adding a horn section to a rock band is a hard trick to pull off. In fact, since the advent of recorded history, no rock band has managed to add a horn section and not look like pretentious gits. Besides which, it sounds horrible. Bad, bad, bad idea.




I didn't mind all that much though, to tell the truth. 

[Mikkamakka]

IMO Axl sounded worse in 1991 than in 1992 or 1993. I hated the horn section that was really gay. And although Izzy's playin' was sloppy and Gilby played much better, but the band sounded more Guns N' Roses in '91 than later since Izzy got more volume for his amps and... he was Izzy...

[AdZ]

Your a dick with nothing better to do then moaning and complaining like most of the others do on this board. There was nothing wrong with the little back-up thingy's. In fact, it was pretty interesting and cool to me. Too bad you didn't like it........wait.......I'm sure you liked it but as in refering to my first sentence.....you got nothing better to do then dragging old cows from the ditch.

Enjoy jerking off to Traci and Roberta posters from the old days

Want to be banned? Keep it up.

[ppbebe]

Adding a horn section to a rock band is a hard trick to pull off. In fact, since the advent of recorded history, no rock band has managed to add a horn section and not look like pretentious gits. Besides which, it sounds horrible. Bad, bad, bad idea.
 

Not even 70's rock bands? Like ELO, ELP or king Crimson.

Or the Beatles for that matter.

[mrlee]

i like teddy zig zag big bag or whatever, backing singers.....well it was a bit to far. horns were needed for some songs like move to the city, though i do like the live like suicide version also.

[jameslofton29]

I agree with the first post 100 percent. The first leg of the Get in the Ring tour was the finest moment in GNR history. They were playing ALOT of new songs that people were dying to hear. Much better than Axl's shitty sampler platter of new material in 2002. Its still unbelieveable that he only played a few new songs.

[HK-47]

Adding a horn section to a rock band is a hard trick to pull off. In fact, since the advent of recorded history, no rock band has managed to add a horn section and not look like pretentious gits. Besides which, it sounds horrible. Bad, bad, bad idea.
 

Not even 70's rock bands? Like ELO, ELP or king Crimson.

Or the Beatles for that matter.

Not even The Beatles. But then, The Beatles didn't sell themselves as anything other than slightly precious little musical imps, so it doesn't hurt them.   And really, The Beatles were a pop band.

[welshrose]

I have three boots from 1991, St. Louis, Indiana and Los Angeles. Axl's voice sounds miserable throughout most of the shows.

However, I think the band sounded raw and nasty during that time. 1992 is my least favorite GNR year. I think they were at their heaviest during the Spring 1993 arena tours. Songs like Reckless Life, Nice Boys, in the set made it hard and heavy.

Axl in late 1992 early 1993 in my opinion.

[Dont Try Me]

Your a dick with nothing better to do then moaning and complaining like most of the others do on this board. There was nothing wrong with the little back-up thingy's. In fact, it was pretty interesting and cool to me. Too bad you didn't like it........wait.......I'm sure you liked it but as in refering to my first sentence.....you got nothing better to do then dragging old cows from the ditch.

Enjoy jerking off to Traci and Roberta posters from the old days

Want to be banned? Keep it up.

No, thanks. I appologize for the language. But I meaned what I said about all the people complaining these days, taken in context. Guess some frustration or some sort. Indeed that last line wasn't neccecary, but it was meaned sarcasticly. However, I'll keep it to myself next time or will reply in a civil way.

[Koskenkorvasieni]

Just my three pennies to the first poster:

Your a dick with nothing better to do then moaning and complaining like most of the others do on this board. There was nothing wrong with the little back-up thingy's. In fact, it was pretty interesting and cool to me. Too bad you didn't like it........wait.......I'm sure you liked it but as in refering to my first sentence.....you got nothing better to do then dragging old cows from the ditch.

Enjoy jerking off to Traci and Roberta posters from the old days

Well that was very mature.  Can't a person voice out his opinion, without stupid wankers like yourself having to resort to personal insulting? Grow up..

Oh and about Axl's voice: yes it did sound better in 1992, but then again i'd rather listen to a great sounding gig with Axl's voice a little messed up, then a gig where everything but Axls voice sounds like shit.

[dave-gnfnr2k]

I just saw a DVD of the Noblesville Indiana gig from april 1991, before the St. Louis riot, before Izzy quit, before the backup singers, horn sections, extra keyboardists and all that other crap. They sounded much better then. Even with ballads like Patience and Estranged, it actually sounds better without the extra crap, just Axl, Izzy, Slash, Duff, Matt and Dizzy on stage. There seems to be so much more energy and raw power to it like that. Axl should never have gotten in to that stadium rock shit. I mean, there's nothing wrong with playing stadiums, but you don't have to bring a whole entourage of backup musicians with you. Even a big stadium can seem like an intimate gig, when you stick to the basics. Just my two cents..

It was slashs idea for the horns and back up singers not Axls.

[Falcon]

It was slashs idea for the horns and back up singers not Axls.

I've seen you post this for a while now but have never seen any documentation of this being the case.  Not that I don't believe you, I've just never had any proof of it being indeed factual.

Any quotes from Slash on the matter?

[metallex78]

I just saw a DVD of the Noblesville Indiana gig from april 1991, before the St. Louis riot, before Izzy quit, before the backup singers, horn sections, extra keyboardists and all that other crap. They sounded much better then. Even with ballads like Patience and Estranged, it actually sounds better without the extra crap, just Axl, Izzy, Slash, Duff, Matt and Dizzy on stage. There seems to be so much more energy and raw power to it like that. Axl should never have gotten in to that stadium rock shit. I mean, there's nothing wrong with playing stadiums, but you don't have to bring a whole entourage of backup musicians with you. Even a big stadium can seem like an intimate gig, when you stick to the basics. Just my two cents..

It was slashs idea for the horns and back up singers not Axls.

From what I've read, it was Axl's idea, Slash simply found the musicians to do the job.

[Mikkamakka]

Here we go again... Axlite's factoids. Please, document this, Dave.

[usurper]

Just my three pennies to the first poster:

Your a dick with nothing better to do then moaning and complaining like most of the others do on this board. There was nothing wrong with the little back-up thingy's. In fact, it was pretty interesting and cool to me. Too bad you didn't like it........wait.......I'm sure you liked it but as in refering to my first sentence.....you got nothing better to do then dragging old cows from the ditch.

Enjoy jerking off to Traci and Roberta posters from the old days

What the fuck is your problem buddy? The guy was just stating his opinion, I don't prefer all that extra crap i.e Backup singers, Teedy Andreais and crap like that but in the end we got used to them, well until the band scrapped them anyway

[terozz]

Here we go again... Axlite's factoids. Please, document this, Dave.

Stop with that Axlite crap it so 2003ish 

Anyway I think that the 92-93 live was better. I like sloppy and raw but sometimes the 91 live stuff was a little bit too sloppy for my taste. But I gladly listen all eras of the band.