Sanctuary

[Pandora]

Didn't the NYT article say how he went years without doing anything?

No. Weeks maybe, but not years. I can't even picture how it could be possible. Several years doing nothing is an insane amount of time.

[Mikkamakka]

Do you mean playing GTA??

You're so clever. I love your sense of humour.

Than next time don't foret about the smiley! 

BTW I can't imagine Axl working hard for years and not releasing anything. 

[jameslofton29]

Actually Pandora, I do think it stated years, not weeks. And yes, that is very insane. I remember when that article came out I got really depressed in my hopes for CD. It painted a very bleak picture of the band. The article seemed pretty truthful.The guy writing it didnt seem to have an agenda. There were no blatant lies in the article. The really sad thing about it is Axl didnt even try to defend himself after the article surfaced. He just gave us more nothing.

[jarmo]

Actually Pandora, I do think it stated years, not weeks.

It's possible he didn't spend all of his time in a studio recording back when he was busy with the lawsuits.

Or when Slash left and they needed a new guitar player.....




/jarmo

[ppbebe]

I think at the maximum it's a year or so. I'll find the article.

[jameslofton29]

Thanks, ppbebe. I would appreciate that. I havent read the article since it first came out. Could you repost it here? Or at least post some of the scathing quotes? LOL!

[Pandora]

The article is here :
http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=19262.0

The closest thing I could find regarding this issue is the following :
"Mr. Rose appeared sporadically, some weeks just one or two days, some weeks not at all. "It was unorganized chaos," the same person said. "There was never a system to this. And in between, there were always parties to go to, different computers Axl was trying out or buying. There were times when we didn't record things for weeks."

So it's weeks, not years.

[ppbebe]

pandora beats me.

Also what Tommy said was that some of songs were old, which he didn't check and he just heard recent ones.

james in the top left corner there's a handy function called IRS aka the search.

[jameslofton29]

Thanks Pandora. I could have swore the article said something about years of inactivity, not weeks. Oh well, I guess I was wrong. I must have read that statement in a different article.

[Nytunz]

Stop this Axl Owe us this and that! Its patetic Bullshit! He doesnt owe us Jack Shit! Axl is just trying to do things right! And we dont know all the problems
he meets on his way to make Chinese Democracy a reality! So please stop say he OWE you something!
You are just pushing your frustration on something new good music on him! Thats not fair, is it?!

Just give the man a break! I belive he will deliver! And more then that when things settle!!

 Spiral Out!

[ppbebe]

I could have swore the article said something about years of inactivity, not weeks.

Ok I think what's haunting you is this bit from The Times.

The British producer Youth (real name Martin Glover), who has previously worked with U2, spent several months in 1997 in Los Angeles with Rose. "I got him singing," says Glover. "He hadn't been singing for around 18 months. I think the record had turned into a real labour. He was stuck and didn't know how to proceed, so he was avoiding it."


See.
It just says he hadn't been singing for a year and half, till sometime in 1997.

If you want the whole article, you can find it with "the search". I don't think I should post the whole article here.

[jameslofton29]

Thanks. Your right. That was the article. You know whats sad about that late 90's period referred to in the article? We were waiting for an album. And little did we know, Axl wasn't doing a damn thing!

[chineseblues]

Thanks. Your right. That was the article. You know whats sad about that late 90's period referred to in the article? We were waiting for an album. And little did we know, Axl wasn't doing a damn thing!

It never said he wasn't doing anything. It said he wasnt singing. He still could have been writing songs.

[jabba2]

I dont believe Axl can write music. Not at a professional level anyways. Buckmaster or one of the conductors that worked on the album said he wrote all the string sections for the songs he was working on, and even came up with vocal melodies for them. On the more complex songs of CD, Axl will only be writing lyrics. Im sure Axl will write some original piano melodies, but im not expecting it to be mind-blowing based on pianos in the Illusions.

[RichardNixon]

If Buckethead hadn't quit, I wonder if CD would be out already. Perhaps they need a new player to re-do his parts, or Finck has re-recorded them, and that's why its taking so long.

[HK-47]

If Buckethead hadn't quit, I wonder if CD would be out already. Perhaps they need a new player to re-do his parts, or Finck has re-recorded them, and that's why its taking so long.

I don't think that would be worth the effort at this point. Maybe you're right, but I don't imagine Finck being able to match BH's parts if he (BH) was allowed to go all-out on the album. That's not a slight on Finck, I don't think anyone would be able to replicate a BH full speed 8-finger tapping solo in terms of accuracy and creativity.

[WARose]

i think that he didn`t do anything in the time before 2000 says nothing. axl said himself in an interview (loder?) that he was only figuring out how to make a record in that time, building up a new band, lawsuits, etc....

and i think garry sunshine axl`s guitar teacher said that axl can play guitar very well, so he CAN write songs. the writing is supposably done anyway i think. now there are other problems...

[Lesty]

It's none of my business how much time Axl has spent writing music
or working on the new record in the studio, but it's fairly obvious to me
that he's not the most motivated musician in the world.
During Illusions, it's well documented that he was rarely in the studio (especially when other members were there).
We've all heard stories about this CD, and how they had the studio booked for months at a time, without him showing up.

I would guess since the cancelled tour that he hasn't spent a lot of time there, either.
Even when the band was a fully functioning unit 4 years ago, Tommy was the music director at rehearsals, and it's not clear if Axl was around at all.

To me, Axl just doesn't seem like he loves what he's doing. Whether it's emotional or personal issues, legal issues, whatever...there just seems to be a dark cloud over him and this project. But I'm holding out hope that he still does love music and wants to share it with all of us.
 

[chineseblues]

It's none of my business how much time Axl has spent writing music
or working on the new record in the studio, but it's fairly obvious to me
that he's not the most motivated musician in the world.
During Illusions, it's well documented that he was rarely in the studio (especially when other members were there).
We've all heard stories about this CD, and how they had the studio booked for months at a time, without him showing up.

I would guess since the cancelled tour that he hasn't spent a lot of time there, either.
Even when the band was a fully functioning unit 4 years ago, Tommy was the music director at rehearsals, and it's not clear if Axl was around at all.

To me, Axl just doesn't seem like he loves what he's doing. Whether it's emotional or personal issues, legal issues, whatever...there just seems to be a dark cloud over him and this project. But I'm holding out hope that he still does love music and wants to share it with all of us.
 

For a period of time during the making of the illusion albums, Axl lived in the studio.

[WARose]

doesn`t he have his own studio at hoome in malibu?