Sanctuary

[chineseblues]

I won't be angry either, and as you said disappointed..  Serious question CB, what will new gnr be without an album in gnr history? As in say another 5 years go by will it still be a band or something in the works?

in 5 years they will prolly have had at least 2 albums out by then. CD is coiming out this year. 

Ok lets hope it does.. Let me know if this is true, is brain, richard and tommy doing things this summer? Also I read somewhere(rumor?) that dizzy is working on new material with josh todd and I aslo read he is touring this fall? As for the 2005 release is that because you have some solid info, or are you going by what merck said about 2005 being the year.. ? if it is that about what merck said then why do you think everyone is so quite about a time period (as in month) rather then years? Like starting the promo now instead of later..

they are doing things this summer yes, the material dizzy is working on is done i believe(as in written). Its going to be on a soundtrack to a movie due out in september(which means it has to be done completely ie recorded etc by then). As far as I know Dizzy doesn't have any plans to tour this fall, that was just some rumour posted at mygnr.

the 2005 release has to do with alot of things. 1. what merck said 2. all solo stuff stops at the end of sept. 3 the label has cd down for a christmas release. So all of that together points to the album coming this year.

[mike_giuliana]

thanks, you are very helpfull.. I thought dizzy might be a rumor too... My final question is this the first time the labe;l has it down as a release or has it been slated previous years as well?

[chineseblues]

thanks, you are very helpfull.. I thought dizzy might be a rumor too... My final question is this the first time the labe;l has it down as a release or has it been slated previous years as well?

I have no idea.

[ppbebe]

From Merck yes.

Axl is the one who has been promising it for years, he was the one who said CD he was the one who gave a setlist, he gave the bonus tracks and 18 songs.. He also mentioned touring for years and dropping several albums.... Axl dug this hole that makes people expect things,. Why is kurt loder asking about cd unless he expected it too.. Axl said he was going to wrap it up, said see you with new songs after rio.. I can't understand how people don't see that as a promise.. He even said a lot on cd when he cancelled rio.. Taking recording to a new level, hopefully an announcement soon..

Nobody made these things up, axl's mouth created that buzz..



try reading my previous post where I said I wanted to hear something good or bad

Then that what Axl has been doing what you want.  Just always shits has happened. 

[mike_giuliana]

thanks, you are very helpfull.. I thought dizzy might be a rumor too... My final question is this the first time the labe;l has it down as a release or has it been slated previous years as well?

I have no idea.

Ok, I know each year someone posts that this one or that one has CD listed for  fall release or winter release. I have no idea hwere that comes from though

[Lesty]

I don't think this is anything the fans should be arguing about. Everyone here wants to hear a new CD, but complaining about who owes who what, etc..is ridiculous.
Despite everyone's opinion, it all boils down to this frustration:
How one of the most talented and beloved rock frontman of our generation is incapable in delvering at least one CD of new material over the course of a decade. On top of that, having an unlimited budget for studio time, producers and musicians and obviously, as much time as is needed to complete the project.
It's frustating for all of us hearing some of the new material, knowing how good it is, and wondering why in the world he can't just release it and share his music with us.
And as others have pointed out, it's the silence that is the perhaps the worst part.
I hope along with everyone else that we get real news fast, or frustration will soon lead to disinterest..and not just casual fans, either..

[jarmo]

i dont think thats what he means dude, you cant sit there n' tell us you dont feel you deserve something from GNR after all the fuckin' around.

And not a pat on the back neither, im talkin' about an album release or a statement for us fans.

Yes I can. I don't think Axl owes me anything.

If I want to get frustrated because he has decided not to release an album in years, it's my own choice.

I don't believe artists owe the fans anything. Most good artists don't make music for their fans, they make music for themselves. They can also decide not to release it, it's up to them.




/jarmo

[RnT]

Most good artists don't make music for their fans, they make music for themselves.


/jarmo

even Backstreet Boys, N?Sync, 98 degrees .... ?? 

[Mikkamakka]

i dont think thats what he means dude, you cant sit there n' tell us you dont feel you deserve something from GNR after all the fuckin' around.

And not a pat on the back neither, im talkin' about an album release or a statement for us fans.

Yes I can. I don't think Axl owes me anything.

If I want to get frustrated because he has decided not to release an album in years, it's my own choice.

I don't believe artists owe the fans anything. Most good artists don't make music for their fans, they make music for themselves. They can also decide not to release it, it's up to them.




/jarmo

Quite an expensive hobby, if you ask me 

in 5 years they will prolly have had at least 2 albums out by then. CD is coiming out this year.

Will you say the same in 2006? 2007?... 2050? I hope you won't kill yourself like our board mate because CD wasn't released in 2004. Ooops, I forgot that he only killed his username. 

[chineseblues]

i dont think thats what he means dude, you cant sit there n' tell us you dont feel you deserve something from GNR after all the fuckin' around.

And not a pat on the back neither, im talkin' about an album release or a statement for us fans.

Yes I can. I don't think Axl owes me anything.

If I want to get frustrated because he has decided not to release an album in years, it's my own choice.

I don't believe artists owe the fans anything. Most good artists don't make music for their fans, they make music for themselves. They can also decide not to release it, it's up to them.




/jarmo

Quite an expensive hobby, if you ask me 

in 5 years they will prolly have had at least 2 albums out by then. CD is coiming out this year.

Will you say the same in 2006? 2007?... 2050? I hope you won't kill yourself like our board mate because CD wasn't released in 2004. Ooops, I forgot that he only killed his username. 

The album will be out this year. Believe it or not, that's up to you. But remember I said it was gonna happen 

[Mikkamakka]

Alright, i will remember that you told us.

[WARose]

Yeah chinese blues  you`re the second one whose words i`m marking considering chinese democracy in 2005.  we`ll see.....

and who says that the label has the album down for a christmas release???

i think the problem with all these rumours is that we seemed to be a lot closer to a release date in 2001 than we are now, but it didn`t happen for some reason, so even if Axl would say that chinese democracy is out before christmas i wouldn`t really believe him 100%.

[chineseblues]

Yeah chinese blues  you`re the second one whose words i`m marking considering chinese democracy in 2005.  we`ll see.....

and who says that the label has the album down for a christmas release???

i think the problem with all these rumours is that we seemed to be a lot closer to a release date in 2001 than we are now, but it didn`t happen for some reason, so even if Axl would say that chinese democracy is out before christmas i wouldn`t really believe him 100%.

last post on this page says so http://www.thenewguns.com/MetaBB/viewtopic.php?t=1220&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=13

[WARose]

mh  do you think this guy is a reliable source?

by the way i wouldn`t even believe axl himself....

[jameslofton29]

Pandora, Tommy said something about material they didn't work on for years. I dont have the exact quote, but I saw it on here.

[ppbebe]

mh  do you think this guy is a reliable source?

by the way i wouldn`t even believe axl himself....

Neither would I. I bet he is the damn source of Tommy or Dizzy's "hopeful" release dates.

Merck is slightly more reliable, I should say. 

[Pandora]

Pandora, Tommy said something about material they didn't work on for years. I dont have the exact quote, but I saw it on here.

Oh, and is that the same thing as Axl not working at all for years? No it's not. It just means those songs were put aside for a few years and picked up again later. It doesn't mean Axl didn't do anything in the meantime.

[Mikkamakka]

Pandora, Tommy said something about material they didn't work on for years. I dont have the exact quote, but I saw it on here.

Oh, and is that the same thing as Axl not working at all for years? No it's not. It just means those songs were put aside for a few years and picked up again later. It doesn't mean Axl didn't do anything in the meantime.

Do you mean playing GTA? 

[Pandora]

Do you mean playing GTA? 

You're so clever. I love your sense of humour.

[jameslofton29]

Didn't the NYT article say how he went years without doing anything?