Should Appetite For Destruction be remastered?

[jarmo]

I was listening to the Pearl Jam "Best Of/Greatest Hits" cd and on that release they have remastered/remixed the tracks that were taken from their debut album "Ten" (released in 1991). The tracks sound a bit different, I guess fresh is a word that could be used to describe the sound.


So the question is, would you like to see the whole "Appetite For Destruction" album remastered/remixed or do you think it should stay the way it is?

I think a Dualdisc or something similar with both the original and a remixed version would be nice.

Or maybe we'll get a 20th anniversary edition in a few years.....?


/jarmo

[chineseblues]

Id much rather hear the rerecorded version by the new band then the old version remastered.

[jarmo]

Id much rather hear the rerecorded version by the new band then the old version remastered.

But that wasn't the question....

This sin't about that version and I don't want it to be about that either.




/jarmo

[chineseblues]

Ok then no I dont think it should be remastered. Its perfectly fine the way it is.

[Izzy]

I was listening to the Pearl Jam "Best Of/Greatest Hits" cd and on that release they have remastered/remixed the tracks that were taken from their debut album "Ten" (released in 1991). The tracks sound a bit different, I guess fresh is a word that could be used to describe the sound.

They sound infinitely better, as do the recent remastered Megadeth albums, its amazing what simply tweaking the bass volume for instance can do.

I'm definetly for the album being remastered - hell, i got about 5 copies of the original, if i don't like the remaster i can always go back to that.

All i ask is that the remaster was done by the band or the end product was atleast approved by the band - i don't want some cowboy turning it into techno....

[Falcon]

Remastered all the way, dualdisc would be cool as hell.

[jarmo]

Just by comparing the sound of AFD to "TSI?", you'll notice how different they sound.

It's the same band and same producer. Only about 4-7 year difference when the tracks were recorded (AFD started in 1986 and "TSI?" in 1991).




/jarmo

[Johnnyblood]

For sure. I would buy that in a heartbeat. One of the joys of Appetite is listening to the rhythm guitar, which is kind of buried on the original 'mix.' A good remaster job would bring that out a bit. Plus, when you make mixes with new stuff, those old ones sound kind of quiet and small. I think an album of that stature deserves a remaster.

[madagas]

Yes. I would like to see it remastered and as Izzy said, approved by the band. Also, it should have the outtakes or b-sides from the sessions. Clink said they had recorded or worked on 20 songs for the album. I am sure November Rain was done at the time-and in a more completed version than the acoustic demo or piano demo. I would love to hear the afd era Nov Rain in something better than a 5th generation bootleg version. I guarantee there is a more concise stripped down gem of a recording in the vaults.

[Thorazine Shuffle]

Appetite was such a raw album with so much of a "vibe" to it that in my humble opinion would take away from the album if its re-mastered. ?Most older albums I would say yes to re-mastering. ?But kinda like the first Black Sabbath album, (which was basically 2 8-tracks hooked together for that recording) I think some of the "charm" would go away if its re-mastered. ?I personally have always wanted the 24 ct gold version of Appetite though.

[Sakib]

remastrd. i hav AFD on CD and vocals on It's So Easy r very quiet.

[C0ma]

I would love to hear the old band properly on a high end system. I can just imagine the amount of AFD that can't be heard due to the original transfer to analog.


Off topic: I guess because I'm part of the 'OldSchool' side of this board, it just bothers me when any reference to the old band is imediately followed by 'Fuck the old, I just want the new band'. Of course Im just as guilty from the other end, but I just feel that fans of the new band should have a greater respect for the old band than I necesarily would have for the new band..... They go by the name Guns N' Roses for a reason, becuase it's popular.....and why is it popular??? because of the old band..... If the old band wasn't hugely successfull Axl would have changed the name.

I can't seem to wrap my head around the idea that any fan of the band new or old would have an objection with something as simple as a remastered version of AFD, or something as huge as a reunion. To me Chinese Democracy is like being at a wedding and wating for the appetizers to be passed around (sure they are tasty, and i'll be first in line to grab a scallop wrapped in bacon, but i'm really there for The Prime Rib (reunion)....acctually I'm real there to land a brides maid, but that didn't fit my analogy)

[pilferk]

Remastered...or rather, mastered correctly from the original source.? Here's what I mean and why:

In the late 80's, NOTHING was mastered directly from the source to digital (ie: CD) format.? The process of producing an album actually was that the original source material was converted to analog format (for tapes and vinyl, if they chose to release that way too) and then the analog "master" was converted to digital solely for the pressing of the CD's. This resulted in a pretty big loss in fidelity, since the analog master was always "muddier", with other issues, and, largely, going to CD just enhanced those issues, and made them much more apparent.?In addition, you essentially had a 3rd generation recording going to CD...granted, a very CLEAN 3rd generation, but 3rd generation all the same.

 Doing things that way ended in the very early 90's, and was reversed, so that the original source was mastered first into digital, and then the digital master was converted to analog ONLY for analog sources.? To all those about to scream, keep in mind, I'm trying to keep this simple...I realize analog is still used today in some mastering for the sound quality but it has little bearing on the discussion at hand.

 Remastering AFD would mean, in essence, we would get the first "true" digital conversion of the source material (though I'm not sure, I think the "Gold" version of AFD may have done this, as well, but I'm not sure...given it's limited availability, I can't seem to find out), and it would sound MUCH cleaner, and more like it did during recording.? The mix would also probably need to be "tweaked" to account for the differences in bass, etc.? However, you'd have a version of AFD that which would sound much closer (in the sense of fidelity and sound reproduction) to the UYI albums, rather than the somewhat muddied and bass impaired version of AFD that exists on CD today.

[gilld1]

I think AFD should absolutely be remastered.  Perhaps, it should be packaged as an expanded set.  They did this with the Weezer Blue Album and added B-sides, demos, unreleased songs, the whole nine yards.  A very nice set could easily be put together.  We'll see....

[Walapino]

Yes I want a remastered version and maybe a bonus track like Shadow of Your Love or Crash Diet 

And please nothing re-recorded its perfect the way it was done. Let the new guys do their thing and let the old stuff continue their legacy!!

[C0ma]

I think the "Gold" version of AFD may have done this, as well, but I'm not sure...given it's limited availability, I can't seem to find out

I have the 24K Gold Version. If no one else can get the info by 6PM EST (I'll be home from work) I'll scan the back cover which I know has a disclaimer about the source and the remastering.

[darkmonth]

Just by comparing the sound of AFD to "TSI?", you'll notice how different they sound.

It's the same band and same producer. Only about 4-7 year difference when the tracks were recorded (AFD started in 1986 and "TSI?" in 1991).




/jarmo

TSI is their heaviest album.  It rocks.

[pilferk]

That would be AWESOME! ?I've actually never seen a copy of it...but in addition, I've never heard it, either, so am not sure what the sound quality difference is.

If it has the disclaimer, I'm assuming it was done the "old" way....that's usually the disclaimer you will see when that is the case...and I KNOW there is one on the back of AFD.

[Ali]

Yes. I would like to see it remastered and as Izzy said, approved by the band. Also, it should have the outtakes or b-sides from the sessions. Clink said they had recorded or worked on 20 songs for the album. I am sure November Rain was done at the time-and in a more completed version than the acoustic demo or piano demo. I would love to hear the afd era Nov Rain in something better than a 5th generation bootleg version. I guarantee there is a more concise stripped down gem of a recording in the vaults.

I like the idea of a remastered version with bonus tracks, either as outtakes or b-sides.

Ali

[Cowboy Buddha]

rremastered in dual disc