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« Reply #20 on: May 02, 2005, 06:28:25 PM »
I can't hear much other guitar work on the cd tho??
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« Reply #21 on: May 02, 2005, 06:36:53 PM »
Quote from: ryan_of_lax on May 02, 2005, 06:14:17 PM
Doesn't it mean suicide in Japanese?

And about Estranged live... It sounds WAY too empty with just Slash playing guitar on it on Live Era.
exactly Smiley
Hara kiri is a way of commiting suicide by taking your bowels with a knife (sorry to be so explicit) Grin
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« Reply #22 on: May 02, 2005, 06:42:47 PM »
Quote from: ryan_of_lax on May 02, 2005, 06:14:17 PM
Doesn't it mean suicide in Japanese?

Right, you can also say "seppuku" in Japanese for the same expression. It literally means "cutting the stomach". It's basically a form of ritual suicide from feudal times in Japan that was mainly used by Samurais. It's pretty gruesome, but to sum it up, the person who committed seppuku (or hara-kiri) slashed his abdomen with a knife or sword, first left to right then bottom to top.

So yeah, Axl was ironic when he talked about Estranged as a "happy song".


Edit: damn Jenny you were faster!
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« Reply #23 on: May 02, 2005, 06:50:36 PM »
Quote from: Will on May 02, 2005, 06:42:47 PM
Quote from: ryan_of_lax on May 02, 2005, 06:14:17 PM
Doesn't it mean suicide in Japanese?

Right, you can also say "seppuku" in Japanese for the same expression. It literally means "cutting the stomach". It's basically a form of ritual suicide from feudal times in Japan that was mainly used by Samurais. It's pretty gruesome, but to sum it up, the person who committed seppuku (or hara-kiri) slashed his abdomen with a knife or sword, first left to right then bottom to top.

So yeah, Axl was ironic when he talked about Estranged as a "happy song".


Edit: damn Jenny you were faster!
Grin but your explanation was FAR better Wink
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« Reply #24 on: May 06, 2005, 03:08:40 PM »
I LOVE Estranged, and I always listen to it whenever I feel shittified because it cheers me up again. I don't know why though... maybe its just because its Gn'R, or because its a beautiful song.... or maybe its because each part rips through me like that chilli sauce from the kebab van... (there's a kebab van near where my boyfriend lives, and when he gets one from there, he always has chilli sauce, and it always makes him need the restroom an hour after eating! I tried it once, and man... that stuff is HOT!)...
anyway, I wish Axl would play Estranged again... maybe an acoustic version... that would rule! Or even a really fast electric version. That would rule too! Don't get me wrong, I love the way it is already, and I wouldn't change it for the world, but hearing it performed different a couple of times would be interesting!
Hehehe... harakiri...
Jenny, the way you explained it, I led myself to believe it meant killing yourself by shoving a knife up your ass! rofl Then I realized that wouldn't actually kill anyone, it would just hurt a LOT! :grin:
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« Reply #25 on: May 06, 2005, 11:48:24 PM »
Quote from: Elr?thiel on May 06, 2005, 03:08:40 PM
Jenny, the way you explained it, I led myself to believe it meant killing yourself by shoving a knife up your ass! rofl Then I realized that wouldn't actually kill anyone, it would just hurt a LOT! :grin:
LOL It's just that English is not my mother tongue, so I described it the best I could at that time Smiley
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« Reply #26 on: May 08, 2005, 02:23:50 PM »
Quote from: *Jenny* on May 06, 2005, 11:48:24 PM
Quote from: Elr?thiel on May 06, 2005, 03:08:40 PM
Jenny, the way you explained it, I led myself to believe it meant killing yourself by shoving a knife up your ass! rofl Then I realized that wouldn't actually kill anyone, it would just hurt a LOT! :grin:
LOL It's just that English is not my mother tongue, so I described it the best I could at that time Smiley
That's OK, just I thought it was a funny thought, so I had to post it! Cheesy Hehehe... can you imagine anyone actually DOING that!?? Shoving a knife up their ass.... jeeeeeeeez that's gotta hurt!!!!
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« Reply #27 on: May 08, 2005, 08:25:51 PM »
I love this song, studio and live, especially the parts " and I know the storm is getting closerrrrrrrrrr" so much emotion and energy, one of all time fav
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« Reply #28 on: May 12, 2005, 12:14:21 PM »
I think Estranged sounds good live.  Smiley
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« Reply #29 on: May 12, 2005, 11:18:53 PM »
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« Reply #30 on: May 12, 2005, 11:56:00 PM »
yeah, in the studio version you can also hear izzy's distorted rhythm guitar throughout the song.  but on the live era version you can only hear slash's guitar.  whatever, i still think it's amazing live.  i remember having my doubts before hearing the live version, but afterward i was very impressed.  slash nailed those bends perfectly.
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« Reply #31 on: May 13, 2005, 02:14:36 AM »
hara-kiri is suicide through disenbowlment.
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« Reply #32 on: May 13, 2005, 12:13:36 PM »
Quote from: Gunner80 on May 13, 2005, 02:14:36 AM
hara-kiri is suicide through disenbowlment.
Yes. The American-English literal translation is "tummy tuck".
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« Reply #33 on: May 13, 2005, 12:31:58 PM »

In most cases it was a virtual death sentence. So I hear.
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