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« on: May 01, 2005, 02:42:11 PM »

i think this is one of the best GNR-Axl songs they have made , and i think Axl really put his feelings into this song , but i find it funny that in the concerts it seems that he didnt like the song , or doesnt agree with it that much , he says numerous times things about this being a happy song and a little bit cheesy (it sound to me like that by the way he presented the song). maybe in the concert with all that energy he doesnt feels like playing it . is it just me or anyone feels the same way?
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« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2005, 02:54:25 PM »

I think he loved that song, that happy comment was him being sarcastic I believe.
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« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2005, 07:20:01 PM »

I used to really like the song, but it's a little too overblown for me - Axl and Co. have done better work musically and lyrically in songs like Breakdown and Locomotive.

As for Axl mocking the song in concerts... he was being sarcastic I believe. On Live Era he prefaces the tune by saying "This is a nice, happy song," so I think he was just kidding around.
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« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2005, 07:50:39 PM »


As for Axl mocking the song in concerts... he was being sarcastic I believe. On Live Era he prefaces the tune by saying "This is a nice, happy song," so I think he was just kidding around.
plus he adds something about being great to commit hara-kiri Grin
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« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2005, 10:09:33 PM »

The intro.'s Axl being sarcastic.  It's a beautiful song both lyrically and musically, but it is mega-emotional, and a bit depressing...compared to Locomotive and Breakdown???  both very good songs...but compared to Estranged???  Not even close.  It could possibly be, no, in fact, it is, one of the greatest songs ever written.  Just my 2 cents.    love
   
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« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2005, 12:48:03 AM »

I absolutely love Estranged, but for me the song doesnt work as well at concert as is does on the cd. Some people may make an argument that most songs are like that, but i disagree. But like at the Tokyo 92 show for instance, it just seemed rushed and unemotional. I dont know if that explains it very well, but its just missing the same kind of power that the cd version conveys. Either way, its still a great song!
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« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2005, 02:47:47 AM »

one of my favorite songs.For me the best live version was in rio 1991.Axl sang it veryvery emotional,and slash riffs       were amazing.Listen just 2 last minutes of estranged in rio and everything will be clear
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« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2005, 03:17:45 AM »

Estranged is underated. I guess because it's a long-length song.
I believe lyrically is better than November Rain.
If you check the lyrics of songs like Estranged, you'll notice that Estranged is the only song that doesn't let you missery. You may say that listening to sad, blues songs makes you wanna cry or even jump from a window, but Estranged is the only song that restores you.
I know a guy that this song saved his life or something.
I don't think we'll ever hear it again live though. Madagascar (lyrically) is the sequence in the old trilogy.
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« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2005, 01:27:11 PM »

ohh ok , thanks for the replys , my english isnt that good , so i got confused with what  he said.
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« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2005, 03:02:43 PM »

"its a nice happy song , kinda like u walk in the park...
sun coming throu ur window,
 in the morning...
to a beatiful day and....
u got nothing better to do then u came and ....so... this is called estranged"

can somebody remember what does he say after this? "u got nothing better to do then u came and"
this type of monologue has stuck in my mind since i was about 12 or something and dammit!!! i cannot remember this fuckin word!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


"commit hara kiri" or sth of the sort
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« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2005, 03:25:16 PM »

*Jenny* is right, that's what he says.

"kinda like a walk in the park... sun coming through your window in the morning and... it's a beautiful day... and you've got nothing better to do than commit hara-kiri, so... "
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« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2005, 03:33:35 PM »



jenny , shut ur fuckin mouth and if u wanna sound cool at least use a language u know .

No, shut your mouth and don't talk like that to other members.

Besides, Jenny is right, he says "commit hara-kiri".
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« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2005, 03:57:54 PM »

are u telling me to avoid a type of attitude  u are using?

Damn right skippy  hihi

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if he says this word it would be really ironically it coz its greek.

Greek? You mean obscure?
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« Reply #13 on: May 02, 2005, 04:12:02 PM »

I believe it's a Japanse word, not Greek.
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« Reply #14 on: May 02, 2005, 04:58:31 PM »

heh lmao? I checked my dictionairy... didnt know that greeks were using words from japan!!!! wow !!! its kinda farway yee knaw

um and also miss' skippy we are oh so fuckin on-topic....? hihi

 

I also know Konishua  Grin
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« Reply #15 on: May 02, 2005, 05:20:14 PM »

wow! I went to lunch and found this  Huh Huh

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it's ok 3trang3g Smiley
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« Reply #16 on: May 02, 2005, 05:27:17 PM »

slip of the keyboard... I know how it is spelled Wink
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« Reply #17 on: May 02, 2005, 05:39:50 PM »

Right, not to detract from your lovely conversation, but can we get back on topic now?
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« Reply #18 on: May 02, 2005, 06:06:34 PM »

*Jenny* is right, that's what he says.

"kinda like a walk in the park... sun coming through your window in the morning and... it's a beautiful day... and you've got nothing better to do than commit hara-kiri, so... "
It  reminds me of "a perfect day for Bananafish" by J D Salinger.

The main character Seymour Glass said "It's a perfect day for Bananafish" and later pulled the trigger on his honeymoon.

Bananafish, according to Seymour, swim into holes where there are bananas and stuff themselves on them, sometimes eating as many as seventy-eight at a time. This makes them so fat, naturally, that they cannot get out of the hole, and they die there.
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« Reply #19 on: May 02, 2005, 06:14:17 PM »

Doesn't it mean suicide in Japanese?

And about Estranged live... It sounds WAY too empty with just Slash playing guitar on it on Live Era.
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