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April 26, 2005, 11:25:05 PM »
perfection... he he he..
To me, AFD And UYI I and II are perfect... not 12 years needed to make it.
Take your time Axl, there's no need to run... 2010 is fine for Chinese Democracy, you'll be 48 by then, but it's ok, the following album can be release in 2020 and you'll be in great shape for touring, look at the stones, you still can be a rock star in your 90's when your dicography reaches 6 albums... no difference with them. go on... we'll wait.
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April 27, 2005, 01:24:48 AM »
Umm yea...I assume you are being sarcastic. But maybe cause Im stoned, and the odd chance that you are being sincere...
...I love the Stones but, they FUCKING SUCK now live. Its embarrassing. Mick wearing belly shirts and rapping worse then fitty cents through all the classics sucks ass. Give it a rest Mick. You might as well be seeing Sting. I almost feel my inner child fucking dying when I see these dudes trying to act young and cool today. Stones would have been a lot cooler if they broke up in the late 70's.
"Can't Rush Perfection"
hehe...how queer.
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April 27, 2005, 01:37:47 AM »
after this long, it better be perfect - however im all for some sponteinanity in music as well
thats one of the reasons why the likes of Appetite, Lies and Illusions are so great - there is a real band chemistry there, sometimes they sound like theyre teetering on being sloppy, but that was part of the Guns feel
I hope the albums not overproduced and if theyre going to call themselves GN'R, I hope they at least retain a bit of that raw feel
Case in point, I have a soundbaord from 2002 of Rocket Queen which is great quality. The band sounds amazing, not a mistake at all, but it still doesnt sound like Guns - I know, I know - how can it when theyre not the same lineup, but the point is, part of what made Guns so great is the "anything could happen" feel - so too polished aint gonna work I think
The only way is for them to release CD and be judged on their material
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April 27, 2005, 12:45:57 PM »
i don't know if you can put a time to perfection.but as a fan waiting it makes it hard to think it's all perfection.making us wait.
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April 27, 2005, 01:37:49 PM »
A perfect album is one where the artist is completely happy with everything about it. The music, the flow of the songs on the album, the band behind it, the touring behind it.
When you want to do it like Guns N' Roses after most of the people that were Guns N' Roses quit, it takes time. It's not that hard to understand actually.
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April 27, 2005, 01:53:24 PM »
It will be perfect but like in the way that everybody will like it, no. But in the way that its perfect for Axl and for the reast of the band. and ofcourse it will be perfect for the fans too
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Quote from: estranged.1098 on April 27, 2005, 01:37:49 PM
A perfect album is one where the artist is completely happy with everything about it. The music, the flow of the songs on the album, the band behind it, the touring behind it.
When you want to do it like Guns N' Roses after most of the people that were Guns N' Roses quit, it takes time. It's not that hard to understand actually.
The last people, who were Guns N' Roses and quit, left the band in 1997.
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Actually, you can rush perfection. The perfect example is AFD. What you can't rush is procrastination.
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Quote from: Litti10 on April 27, 2005, 01:53:24 PM
It will be perfect but like in the way that everybody will like it, no. But in the way that its perfect for Axl
and for the reast of the band
. and ofcourse it will be perfect for the fans too
Good post but as for the "of course" bit I kinda doubt it. Cor, there are too many petty minds, deaf since 1997. Chinese Democracy will win massive new fans instead.
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April 27, 2005, 05:40:53 PM »
In the same time frame as the release of the Illusion album until now, The Beatles released 13 studio albums, and two albums worth of singles.
Ever stop to think that Uncle Axl is not working hard on the album everyday? But rather is sitting on his fat ass, watching "All My Children" and getting fed bon bons by 30 french maids?
Or perhaps Axl is depressed?
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Definitely something is wrong. CD shoulda been done by now. Or at least give us an update.
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Quote from: Mikkamakka on April 27, 2005, 01:58:57 PM
The last people, who were Guns N' Roses and quit, left the band in 1997.
Another super contributive post of yours.
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Quote from: jameslofton29 on April 27, 2005, 02:31:06 PM
Actually, you can rush perfection. The perfect example is AFD. What you can't rush is procrastination.
I don't think AFD was a case of being rushed. I think that they just had a lot of great songs, and they didn't need or want to tinker with them forever. They just went in, played the shit out of them, then went back out to drink and fuck. That was part of the original Guns N' Roses charm. Now Axl has become a reclusive millionaire with pretensions of being a Great Artist.
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Quote from: Mattman on April 28, 2005, 01:02:30 AM
Now Axl has become a reclusive millionaire with pretensions of being a Great Artist.
Axl has always been Axl, always will be.
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Quote from: estranged.1098 on April 27, 2005, 10:19:01 PM
Quote from: Mikkamakka on April 27, 2005, 01:58:57 PM
The last people, who were Guns N' Roses and quit, left the band in 1997.
Another super contributive post of yours.
I really don't understand which members you meant in your previous post if not Steven, Slash and Duff (and maybe Gilby and Matt). I thought you referred to Axl's VMA interview. But if you are only here to bitch about something, then good for you.
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When you want to do it like Guns N' Roses after most of the people that were Guns N' Roses quit, it takes time. It's not that hard to understand actually.
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Quote from: Mikkamakka on April 28, 2005, 03:48:39 AM
I thought you referred to Axl's VMA interview.
That's correct.
Quote from: Mikkamakka on April 28, 2005, 03:48:39 AM
But if you are only here to bitch about something, then good for you.
That's quite funny coming from you.
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When you want to do it like Guns N' Roses after most of the people that were Guns N' Roses quit (1997), it takes time. It's not that hard to understand actually.
Right, but the problem is that members of the new band are starting to leave as well. That invalidates Axl's accusations that old band was to blame for the new album not coming out in a timely manner. He replaced them with all new musicians and now they are beginning to high-tail it (Bucket is gone, Robin has been in and out and rumors have circulated about Brain and Stinson). No matter what happens from this point on - whether "Chinese Democracy" comes out tomorrow or ten years from now or never - Axl's perfectionism has gotten the better of him. No getting around it.
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Quote from: Kayoss on April 28, 2005, 04:29:56 AM
He replaced them with all new musicians and now they are beginning to high-tail it (Bucket is gone, Robin has been in and out and rumors have circulated about Brain and Stinson).
Robin, Brain and Tommy are still in the band and have shown no desire to leave at all. Buckethead left for his own reasons, and without being there it's impossible to know who's right, or if anyone is right at all.
"and now they are beginning to high-tail" is a very inaccurate statement.
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Why would the others leave GNR?
THey are free to pursue whatever projects they want with the GNR name behind them. And they are on Axl`s payroll. Seems like a great situation for a musician to be in. Sucks for us because we have been waiting all this time for a new album.
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Quote from: estranged.1098 on April 28, 2005, 04:35:25 AM
Quote from: Kayoss on April 28, 2005, 04:29:56 AM
He replaced them with all new musicians and now they are beginning to high-tail it (Bucket is gone, Robin has been in and out and rumors have circulated about Brain and Stinson).?
Robin, Brain and Tommy are still in the band and have shown no desire to leave at all. Buckethead left for his own reasons, and without being there it's impossible to know who's right, or if anyone is right at all.
"and now they are beginning to high-tail" is a very inaccurate statement.
They are still there as of right now but Robin left GN'R for Nine Inch Nails a few years ago, then returned.? Brain and Tommy are still there but as I said I have read
rumors
that both have considered leaving GN'R which tells me that
if
such rumors were ever true the morale in the "GN'R locker room" isn't very high and rightfully so.? One performance on MTV that most people laugh(ed) at, a failed tour, and seemingly endless work on a project that may never see the light of day and will most certainly never live up to it's astronomical expectations no matter how great or shitty the actual music is.? These are things the entire line-up have undoubtedly considered - as Buckethead's departure has proven.
"Beginning to high-tail it" may have been a bit hasty, but time will tell the story there.
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