CAN"T RUSH PERFECTION

[newgnrfan]

you can cry all you want but no one can rush perfection! Axl is a perfectionist and that is why his music is so intense and pollished. Give him some space and less abuse in the press and you will have your alblum sooner than you think!
axl, take your time-

[WAR41]

no offense buddy, I dont know how new of a fan you are of GNR, but I dont think you can tell that to people who have been waiting around for over a decade for a new album.  Now if a long time GNR fan said that, I would strongly disagree but I would at least have to admire the fact that even after this long they can still say that.

[Mr Cowbell ?]

But what is perfection? Is it the perfect album that has no market to sell it to?

If you look through Axl's eyes a perfect album is an album where every song is done the right way to every single note

If you look through Management/Record Company eyes, an album that sells alot with a good single or two will be the perfect album.

If you look through a fan's eyes some will say alot of melodic slow songs would be perfect

Other fans would say a harder album like GnR Appetite would be perfect.

You got to look at all sides of the equation to find a happy middle. ?Personally I can see Axl just wants to be left alone and that is ok, but then again there are tons of fans who still buy his music and merchandise and allow him all this money to spend freely so it is really a catch 22 problem.

[Timothy]

Perfection is just an Illusion.

[Kujo]

you can cry all you want but no one can rush perfection! Axl is a perfectionist and that is why his music is so intense and pollished. Give him some space and less abuse in the press and you will have your alblum sooner than you think!
axl, take your time-

Who exactly are you talking to? Last time I checked, nobody here was cramping his space or abusing him in the press, so who do you mean? If you want to bring up something that has been discussed to death already you have to come with something better than that.

[Nytunz]

I dont really think that its the for album release people are getting tierd to wait for, it bad information on what is going on.. If GNR managment and GNR themselfs updated the fans, im sure we would understand things alot better...

[Jessica]

One can't rush perfection, i agree, but i'd say one cannot make history go faster than it is written.

[Thorazine Shuffle]

But look at the albums that people consider perfection.  They were all made in very short amounts of time. i.e. Led Zepplin 1, Black Sabbaths first album, Rolling Stones Sticky Fingers, And of course Appetite.  There is a such thing in my opinion as "overdoing" an album.  I just pray CD isn't like that.

[Mikkamakka]

But look at the albums that people consider perfection.? They were all made in very short amounts of time. i.e. Led Zepplin 1, Black Sabbaths first album, Rolling Stones Sticky Fingers, And of course Appetite.? There is a such thing in my opinion as "overdoing" an album.? I just pray CD isn't like that.

You can spend as much time as you want on an album, but if the 'spirit' isn't there, then it won't be there by some studio magics and adding other three flute themes. But if the spirit is there, then half a year is more than enough to record and release it.

[Thorazine Shuffle]

But look at the albums that people consider perfection.? They were all made in very short amounts of time. i.e. Led Zepplin 1, Black Sabbaths first album, Rolling Stones Sticky Fingers, And of course Appetite.? There is a such thing in my opinion as "overdoing" an album.? I just pray CD isn't like that.

 But if the spirit is there, then half a year is more than enough to record and release it.

Agreed.  But can the "spirit" be there after 7 years.  Duff said it best in a recent interview that if you don't get the song down in the studio after a couple of takes then it's better left alone.  As a musician myself, I am inclined to believe that.  After tinkering in my bands studio for too long, the magic seems to be lost.  I want CD as much as anyone on this board, but perfection isn't acheived for 13 million.

[madagas]

Time and money spent are irrelevant. Axl is a fucked up cat....simple as that. He will release it when HE wants to release it. The album could literally be the best album ever but if he isn't happy with it or simply doesn't want to deal with the actual shit storm of attention that will accompany the release, it won't be coming out. Don't blame this on the new band either-the instrumentals have been done for years. I lay everything-at least the time issue-at the feet of Axl. It doesn't matter who is in the band-Duff, Bucket, Slash, Tommy-until Axl puts vocals over it and likes it, it won't be out. Comparing this situation to Sticky Fingers or AFD or Led Zep IV or even Smile is not fair. Simply put, no one has ever put this much consistent studio time in to an album. Don't say Smile took 37 years because Wilson only worked on it for essentially a year, maybe two. What Axl has done is completely unprecedented in rock music history. I don't give a fuck what Merck says or anyone on this board says. The facts are that Axl Rose, with various musicians, has been trying to make a record, off and on, for 11 years. Unbelievable. 

[Falcon]

I don't give a fuck what Merck says or anyone on this board says. The facts are that Axl Rose, with various musicians, has been trying to make a record, off and on, for 11 years. Unbelievable.?

I tend to agree with the above and will take it a step further.

Keeping in mind he's owes us nothing, 1 new studio release from Axl Rose in 14 years is one the most disappointing things in rock history.

[madagas]

Clarify, "studio release" assumes album....ONE SONG! Any way you shake it, it is disappointing.

[Falcon]

Clarify, "studio release" assumes album....ONE SONG! Any way you shake it, it is disappointing.

Yep, meant one new studio tune put out for public consumption.

[Kujo]

I tend to agree with the above and will take it a step further.

Keeping in mind he's owes us nothing, 1 new studio release from Axl Rose in 14 years is one the most disappointing things in rock history.

Well To be technical, while I am beating the crap out of this dead horse over here, in the last 14 years we have had UYI 1 & 2, TSI, Sympathy For The Devil, Oh My God, and the various bootlegs from the live shows.

OK let the hyperbole and exaggerations continue now

[ppbebe]

Well To be technical, while I am beating the crap out of this dead horse over here, in the last 14 years we have had UYI 1 & 2, TSI, Sympathy For The Devil, Oh My God, and the various bootlegs from the live shows.

OK let the hyperbole and exaggerations continue now

2005-14=1991! Aye, Keen eyed, kujo! You're the Math master. (BTW, where were you?)

That is the sort of hyperbole mums love to employ (for their preaching)

[Falcon]

Well To be technical, while I am beating the crap out of this dead horse over here, in the last 14 years we have had UYI 1 & 2, TSI, Sympathy For The Devil, Oh My God, and the various bootlegs from the live shows.

OK let the hyperbole and exaggerations continue now

OK, how 'bout 1 original song properly released since the UYI's, better?

[TheGun]

Rushing is certainly not 13+ years for a full album of even mostly original material. I do not know how anyone can even say expecting an album since 98 (7 years) is rushing...  I wish I would not have spent the time thinking how long it has actually been. Sure, I know as you all do, but quantifying it just reiterates the absurdity and depressing nature of that.

[Dr. Blutarsky]

The word Rush and Chinese Democracy don`t belong in the same sentence.

[Krispy Kreme]

you can cry all you want but no one can rush perfection! Axl is a perfectionist and that is why his music is so intense and pollished. Give him some space and less abuse in the press and you will have your alblum sooner than you think!
axl, take your time-

"Give him some space." Ok, fine. Is  7-8 years enough space?
As for his music  being polished, a good amount of what we have heard is unfinished/demos (OMG, IRS, Rhiad). That is not to say they aren't  finished now, but one  would think after  all this time  there are "polished" songs ready to go.