Stinson not touring thru summer, has 'Other Projects?'

[Falcon]

He's a professional musician, this means he's working.

/jarmo

Exactly.

Most musicians enjoy playing and if Richard wants to get out and play with Nena, good for him.

[Dr. Blutarsky]

Agree. Better to keep playing live to stay sharp and bring in some dough rather than sit on his ass and do nothing.

[Mikkamakka]

Alright.  Next time he'll be touring with N'Sync again and the board will be happy to have him on the road.

[Pandora]

Alright.  Next time he'll be touring with N'Sync again and the board will be happy to have him on the road.

Oh come the fuck on. Even if he toured with Lennon, Hendrix and John Bonham, I'm sure you'd still find a way to moan about it, because that seems to be your favourite hobby on this board. So quit that little game already.

[jarmo]

Alright.? Next time he'll be touring with N'Sync again and the board will be happy to have him on the road.

Yeah, but I really wish he'd put together a band and called it Richard's Snakepit so he could play bars like a real rockstar instead of playing with Nena.

I bet you're happy that Josh Freese left GN'R because maybe you wouldn't be able to handle what he's doing. He plays in A Perfect Circle and is now touring with Sting!

 


/jarmo

[Mikkamakka]

Alright.? Next time he'll be touring with N'Sync again and the board will be happy to have him on the road.

Oh come the fuck on. Even if he toured with Lennon, Hendrix and John Bonham, I'm sure you'd still find a way to moan about it, because that seems to be your favourite hobby on this board. So quit that little game already.

Noh, noh, noh. It'd be nearly impoosible for Richard to tour with those you mentioned since they are dead.

Alright.  Next time he'll be touring with N'Sync again and the board will be happy to have him on the road.

Yeah, but I really wish he'd put together a band and called it Richard's Snakepit so he could play bars like a real rockstar instead of playing with Nena.

I bet you're happy that Josh Freese left GN'R because maybe you wouldn't be able to handle what he's doing. He plays in A Perfect Circle and is now touring with Sting!

 


/jarmo

I'm not happy or unhappy that Freese left the band since I don't know how much he contributed. (The only sad thing in his leaving that it might have postponed CD, but it seems like everything postpones CD so Freese's leaving didn't really matter.) BTW I love A Perfect Circle and they are one of my favourite bands.   

If Fortus went to a tour with Sting or other quality musician or he started a 'Fortus' Snakepit', an ownd band or a cover band with his firends (like Hookers) I wouldn't complain since that would prove that he likes to play and doesn't waste his talent. But Nena is a bit different... It's like touring with Cyndy Lauper... The only reason for that can be money, nothing else. Don't you think that when (and if) CD comes out the rock mags will be joking on his contribution with Nena? To be sincere I really don't understand hy you don't see it tragic or ridiculous that the guitarist of Guns N' Roses is a part time member of Nena's band. Maybe I'm wrong but I think that GN'R are still a big band so their members only star on other musician's albums or do solo projects but not playin' for has-beens. 

BTW Stinson's solo efforts don't distrurb me since he surely has pleasure in doin' this and can achive his own goals. (Liking his album is a different story but irrelevant in this case.)

[jarmo]

The only reason for that can be money, nothing else. Don't you think that when (and if) CD comes out the rock mags will be joking on his contribution with Nena? To be sincere I really don't understand hy you don't see it tragic or ridiculous that the guitarist of Guns N' Roses is a part time member of Nena's band. Maybe I'm wrong but I think that GN'R are still a big band so their members only star on other musician's albums or do solo projects but not playin' for has-beens.?

Who cares?

He probably likes playing and this is a chance for him to do so.


Slash appeared in a cartoon show as well as played with Blackstreet and Insane Clown Posse. Did the rock magazines make fun of him? Oh, and Slash also has played with "has-beens", how about Sammy Hagar and Alice Cooper? Not exactly as popular as they once were these days.....

Why did Slash do it? He likes to play!





/jarmo

[chineseblues]

Alright.  Next time he'll be touring with N'Sync again and the board will be happy to have him on the road.

Oh come the fuck on. Even if he toured with Lennon, Hendrix and John Bonham, I'm sure you'd still find a way to moan about it, because that seems to be your favourite hobby on this board. So quit that little game already.

Noh, noh, noh. It'd be nearly impoosible for Richard to tour with those you mentioned since they are dead.

Alright.  Next time he'll be touring with N'Sync again and the board will be happy to have him on the road.

Yeah, but I really wish he'd put together a band and called it Richard's Snakepit so he could play bars like a real rockstar instead of playing with Nena.

I bet you're happy that Josh Freese left GN'R because maybe you wouldn't be able to handle what he's doing. He plays in A Perfect Circle and is now touring with Sting!

 


/jarmo

I'm not happy or unhappy that Freese left the band since I don't know how much he contributed. (The only sad thing in his leaving that it might have postponed CD, but it seems like everything postpones CD so Freese's leaving didn't really matter.) BTW I love A Perfect Circle and they are one of my favourite bands.   

If Fortus went to a tour with Sting or other quality musician or he started a 'Fortus' Snakepit', an ownd band or a cover band with his firends (like Hookers) I wouldn't complain since that would prove that he likes to play and doesn't waste his talent. But Nena is a bit different... It's like touring with Cyndy Lauper... The only reason for that can be money, nothing else. Don't you think that when (and if) CD comes out the rock mags will be joking on his contribution with Nena? To be sincere I really don't understand hy you don't see it tragic or ridiculous that the guitarist of Guns N' Roses is a part time member of Nena's band. Maybe I'm wrong but I think that GN'R are still a big band so their members only star on other musician's albums or do solo projects but not playin' for has-beens. 

BTW Stinson's solo efforts don't distrurb me since he surely has pleasure in doin' this and can achive his own goals. (Liking his album is a different story but irrelevant in this case.)

Richard has played with artists ranging from Richard Butler to Perry Farrell, I think he can do a little tour with Nena without losing any cred 

[Neemo]

Maybe I'm wrong but I think that GN'R are still a big band so their members only star on other musician's albums or do solo projects but not playin' for has-beens.?

And when is the last time guns n roses had a single? or released an album? Face it dude, until Axl makes a comeback, he is a has-been. Fuck, don't get me wrong, I think GnR rules but they haven't done shit lately (lately is a decade btw). hell the majority of the people on this board probably think Motley Crue, Poison, Warrant, Tesla, Megadeth, Ozzy etc etc etc are all has-beens but they've all put out more albums than Guns in the last 10 years!! we don't even know if the band still exists. maybe they've all been payed for their contributions to the album and are off the payroll until the CD comes out (If it ever does). Any of those guys can do whatever the hell they want "Who am I to say? maybe we'd be better off without you anyway!"

[Mikkamakka]

The only reason for that can be money, nothing else. Don't you think that when (and if) CD comes out the rock mags will be joking on his contribution with Nena? To be sincere I really don't understand hy you don't see it tragic or ridiculous that the guitarist of Guns N' Roses is a part time member of Nena's band. Maybe I'm wrong but I think that GN'R are still a big band so their members only star on other musician's albums or do solo projects but not playin' for has-beens.?

Who cares?

He probably likes playing and this is a chance for him to do so.


Slash appeared in a cartoon show as well as played with Blackstreet and Insane Clown Posse. Did the rock magazines make fun of him? Oh, and Slash also has played with "has-beens", how about Sammy Hagar and Alice Cooper? Not exactly as popular as they once were these days.....

Why did Slash do it? He likes to play!





/jarmo

It's my last post about this and I hope I won't be banned for writing down my opinion.

First. Slash made mistakes and shitty things, but how come that here? As far as I know he's not in GN'R anymore. I didn't like the idea of playin' on Blackstreet's or ICP's record, but he made a guest appearance as a rock star on those albums. Richard plays as a hired touring guitarist with Nena. It's really different.

Alice Cooper and Sammy Hagar has-beens?    Then Axl is a has-been, too. But I don't think any of them would be a has-been. They are legends. Who thinks otherwise has no musical credibility. Don't you think that Alice or Sammy put a little more to the table than Nena? Maybe there are some thousands of musicians who were inspired by these two and about 5 musicians who were inspired by Nena, not to mention that Sammy Hagar's and Alice Cooper's catalogue is damned strong. (BTW didn't Axl make a guest appearance on Hey Stoopid?) 99 Ballons against Only Women Bleed?  Have you heard Slash's guest appearances with Cooper and Hagar? Those songs are killers!

But I don't really care about Fortus, but this Nena thing was shocking for me.

[Pandora]

(BTW didn't Axl make a guest appearance on Hey Stoopid?)

No, only Slash did.

Anyway, I still don't see what's so terrible about Nena. It's not like he's touring with Britney Spears or friggin' Beyonce. Nena is a rock singer in the largest sense of the term. Just because she's hardly known outside Germany doesn't mean she sucks.

[Dust N Rose]

(BTW didn't Axl make a guest appearance on Hey Stoopid?)

No, only Slash did.

Anyway, I still don't see what's so terrible about Nena. It's not like he's touring with Britney Spears or friggin' Beyonce. Nena is a rock singer in the largest sense of the term. Just because she's hardly known outside Germany doesn't mean she sucks.

True.

[jarmo]

I think it was shocking because you wanted it to be "shocking".

I brought up Slash because he did all those things because he loves to play, with anybody.


I haven't paid attention to Nena's career at all, you seem to have since you're the expert here. But how do we know what Richard's playing on that tour? I mean, maybe it's guitar parts he wrote for some new songs? Imagine that!

I don't have a problem with anybody playing with other people. You're the one saying it's ok to play with these artists but not with those.



/jarmo

[ppbebe]

Please name a few.

For instance?Do you have a mirror, Mr. mine-is-bigger-than-yours, handy?

I might add Jimmy page was a session guitarist before he joined the Yardbirds.

[Friedemann]

this Nena thing was shocking for me.

if that's shocking to you I wonder what you'll say when you find there's no more hotdogs in the fridge

( AARGH! )

[the dirt]

Anyway, I still don't see what's so terrible about Nena. It's not like he's touring with Britney Spears or friggin' Beyonce.

This is true. Fortus only plays on Britney Spears' albums.

I don't beleive he has toured with her. (yet) Let's wait and see

[Pandora]

Anyway, I still don't see what's so terrible about Nena. It's not like he's touring with Britney Spears or friggin' Beyonce.

This is true. Fortus only plays on Britney Spears' albums.

No, he's never played on any of her albums. Check his website if you don't believe me.
Granted, he's played for NSYNC, who aren't any better 

[Falcon]

As I stated above, I'm all for Fortus getting out and playing, Nena included.

That said, the comparisons to Cooper and Hagar could be considered rock blasphemy.  Though not as popular as they once were, Cooper is still regarded as an influential artist to this day while Hagar was in Montrose for cryin' out loud.

No 99 Luft Balloons in either one of their catalogs...

[the dirt]

Anyway, I still don't see what's so terrible about Nena. It's not like he's touring with Britney Spears or friggin' Beyonce.

This is true. Fortus only plays on Britney Spears' albums.

No, he's never played on any of her albums. Check his website if you don't believe me.
Granted, he's played for NSYNC, who aren't any better?

I don't believe you.

He played on records by Jesse Malin as well as Tommy Stinson. He lent his talents to the #1 album, "Celebrity," by N'SYNC, played on Britney Spears' album, and recorded with Ben Folds, Frank Black, BT, Enrique Iglesias and The Tom Tom Club.


You want to know where i got this info? Richard's site, of course.


You can check the site under his bio if you want, if you don't believe me.

[Mikkamakka]

(BTW didn't Axl make a guest appearance on Hey Stoopid?)

No, only Slash did.

I don't know. I made a google search and it shows a lot of pages mentioning that even Axl made a guest appearance on Hey Stoopid, although they don't name the song.

For example:
http://www.icebergradio.com/artist/3936/alice_cooper.html
http://www.seemagazine.com/Issues/1999/0916/mus2.htm


(But since Axl sang on Under My Wheels he also worked with Alice 'has-been' Cooper.)